Bruddah IZ
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Your memory continues to slip away.
Climate and Weather
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That's a great question to ask espola...
No it's the progressives that look at what others have and say "that should be mine, mine, mine".
"I've worked hard and life isn't fair. If I was as lucky as you I would have all that I want".
Leveling the playing field is not enough, we need to insure results are also leveled.
Mine, Mine mine....indeed.
I still describe myself that way.
I think Trump is a proven criminal, an admitted fraud, and an apparent lunatic.
Don't know about the other conservatives in here.
He's also the President elect and follows in a long line of men elected to the office that many have held in contempt.
Trump is the (un)equal & opposite reaction to the last 8 years....
We'll be fine espola.
Merry Christmas E.
Hüsker Dü
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Taking that a bit far aren't we?
I ( Spola ) can honestly describe myself as a known kook, a proven fraud, and an apparent lunatic, don't know why the other conservatives on this here forum think so low of me after statements like the above quote.....
Hüsker Dü
DA
Confessing may be a good first step, way to go nono! Do you feel better now?
EvilGoalie 21
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I guess I'm not following what you see as divergence. The differences in how the data sets are scaled along the y-axis is largely a function of the baseline period used for calculating the anomaly. The baseline is different for different data sets. It's sort of exasperating but that's how it is. If you correct for that as an offset, which is done in the attached plot, you'll see that land data (HadCrut), land/sea extrapolated data (GISS) and the satellite data from both Remote Sensing Systems (RSS) and Univ. of Alabama (UAH) line up pretty well. Remarkably well actually, given that the land data is basically sticking a thermometer out the window and the satellite data calculates temperature indirectly from wavelength intensity. I agree there is a tendency for the satellite data to show a greater amplitude of both decadal warming and cooling events. I think that is your glitch. Why? I don't know-it could just be a statistical fallout of how the temperature values are indirectly calculated from the wavelength values. In the linked graph regression lines are also plotted. All of the slopes converge on ballparkish 2°C/century temp increase. I'm a bit disappointed that confidence limits (r2) for the regressions aren't provided on the WFT site. But hey, they are clearly trying to do a good job. Its from the same website you linked, woodfortrees notes section. If you want to have some fun with it, look up El Nino/El Nina events and superimpose them on the high/low chatter in the data. Mixing...
www.woodfortrees.org site (they want a nod obviously)
Just responding to a post that had already gone too far... and then there's this:
"If you've got a business, you didn't build that".
"I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they've got a chance at success....and I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody."
Hüsker Dü
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A lot of people and their efforts built the foundations we build from. There is simply a difference in attitude, some acknowledge all the infrastructure and learning that has come before us and laid the ground work from which we build and some think they did it all miraculously on their own with not a bit if help from anyone not acknowledging the hard work that made your success easier to achieve.
Sheriff Joe
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They level by bring the successfull people down.
Bullshit.
The infrastructure is there for all... the level playing field if you will.
If success was do to the "foundations" built by others and the infrastructure paid for by all and used by all, everyone would have a successful business.
Hard work, sacrifice, & drive to succeed produce successful business.
Nice work on the interactive graph. I think the site is a great resource for the average joe, like me, to play around with the stats.
It seems to me the satellite trends you posted and the Gis and Hadcrut converge around '95, and have been in a divergent trend (comparatively) since then.
The spike in '98b is interesting in that the satellite and surface temps come back to eachother at the peak.
I went back and compared linear trends from 1979 1998 and 2006.
The UAH and GIS temps track very well, with a very slight divergent trend.
The RSS seems to be the outlier, diverging significantly cooler than the others.
I understand that your chart shows linear trends, its just easier to see things for me, when I isolate the linear trends.
What do you see going forward?
If you had to jump out on a limb, where do you see things going?
Do you see a steady climb, or a leveling off soon?
The UAH and GIS temps track very well, with a very slight divergent trend.
The RSS seems to be the outlier, diverging significantly cooler than the others.
I understand that your chart shows linear trends, its just easier to see things for me, when I isolate the linear trends.
What do you see going forward?
If you had to jump out on a limb, where do you see things going?
Do you see a steady climb, or a leveling off soon?
Hüsker Dü
DA
You ain't seeing what I'm seeing, in fact you are going out of your way not to see it.
You see what you want to see.
You ever started a business, worked for hours and hours to make it succeed?
Anybody sitting next to you on those late nights because paper work is needed the next morning.
Ever miss out on a family function or championship soccer game because you need to finish a project when promised.
Ever make cold calls to sell your business and spread your name around to those that may use your services?
Nobody called me when I first got my business line up and running. I had to sell the business.
I had to build the business, no one else did it for me.
I not only see it Huckster, I've lived it.
Seems to have made you bitter.
Only when some jackass who has never operated a busines comes along and tells me I didn't build that or purports I don't understand.
Hüsker Dü
DA
How did the roads to and from your business get built?
Who paid for your education?
Who taught you how to do what you do?
Who taught you how to tie your shoes?
Who paid to get common services close to and available for hook up to your place of business?
Who fought to keep this country free so you could have a business? and who helped pay for that?
There are thousand of things that went into your success before you even started down that path. The path you chose, the decisions you made, the luck you had and the people that decided help you were influenced and determined by you . . . and yes, you built your success from nothing, if you consider yourself and all that went into you nothing?
Without others you would have a tough time conjuring everything alone.