Climate and Weather

Hüsker Dü said:
Trump lies faster then the fact checkers can check . . . he lies more in one simple statement than all of Obama's lies doubled.
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Perhaps Trump learned from Obama...
Apparently the fact checkers that matter, aka the folks that had voted twice for Obama, simply gave up checking on Hillary, they knew if her mouth was open, she was lying.
It must really be tough on intellectuals like you, just can't rap your elitist mind around the reality & shame in losing to Trump.
 
Lion Eyes said:
Apparently the fact checkers that matter, aka the folks that had voted twice for Obama, simply gave up checking on Hillary
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There goes that nervous tick you have that causes you to interject a Hillary comment into your every response. There was penty of fact checking going on daily and it all showed Trump as the liar king.

Funny how who wins the election somehow validates the bullshit believed by that parties supporters. We have a whole new group of arrogant assholes and these ones deal in fake news and conspiracy. Reality and truth need no longer apply.
 
Wez said:
There goes that nervous tick you have that causes you to interject a Hillary comment into your every response. There was penty of fact checking going on daily and it all showed Trump as the liar king.

Funny how who wins the election somehow validates the bullshit believed by that parties supporters. We have a whole new group of arrogant assholes and these ones deal in fake news and conspiracy. Reality and truth need no longer apply.
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You'll be fine. There is nothing new under the sun.
 
Wez said:
There goes that nervous tick you have that causes you to interject a Hillary comment into your every response. There was penty of fact checking going on daily and it all showed Trump as the liar king.

Funny how who wins the election somehow validates the bullshit believed by that parties supporters. We have a whole new group of arrogant assholes and these ones deal in fake news and conspiracy. Reality and truth need no longer apply.
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Like your little tick...regarding Trump, GWB, Republicans, conservatives , church goers, hunters, the second amendment, the toilets at Surf Cup... Muahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.....
Wasn't it Obama who famously said to the Republicans as they voiced their concerns. "I won"...
Get over it child.
 
Lion Eyes said:
This is why the Democrats lost the last election....
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Yes, you are correct sir . . . the stupidity of the American voter. According to one side or the other the last decent president elected was Kennedy? But, we wanted change this time, well electorally speaking anyways (not a truly collective "We"), be careful what you wish for!
 
Hüsker Dü said:
Yes, you are correct sir . . . the stupidity of the American voter. According to one side or the other the last decent president elected was Kennedy? But, we wanted change this time, well electorally speaking anyways (not a truly collective "We"), be careful what you wish for!
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I was for Johnson in 64, hated him by 68. I was for Nixon in 68, figured out he was a crook by 72. On the other hand, I had a better view of Reagan in 84 than I did in 80. Also, Bush Sr. was not a half-bad President, one of the better ones in my lifetime. He faltered with his base because he couldn't read his own lips, and among the military-industrial community because of his half-hearted Gulf War, leaving Saddam in power to aggravate his son.
 
Hüsker Dü said:
Yes, you are correct sir . . . the stupidity of the American voter. According to one side or the other the last decent president elected was Kennedy? But, we wanted change this time, well electorally speaking anyways (not a truly collective "We"), be careful what you wish for!
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Obamacare architect: We passed law due to ‘stupidity of the American voter’
Jonathan Gruber, a Massachusetts Institute of Technology professor who served as a technical consultant to the White House during the design of Obamacare, confirmed in a recently released video that one of the key problems with Obamacare’s development was making sure its text was confusing enough so that the Congressional Budget Office wouldn’t automatically deem it a tax, The Daily Caller reported.
 
Hüsker Dü said:
Yes, you are correct sir . . . the stupidity of the American voter. According to one side or the other the last decent president elected was Kennedy? But, we wanted change this time, well electorally speaking anyways (not a truly collective "We"), be careful what you wish for!
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The stupidity of the American voter .. ?
There are times when your arrogance is surpassed only by your stupidity.
Those Americans that elected Trump, those that made the difference, voted for Obama in the two previous elections.
Tell me pinhead, were they stupid then?
 
Lion Eyes said:
The stupidity of the American voter .. ?
There are times when your arrogance is surpassed only by your stupidity.
Those Americans that elected Trump, those that made the difference, voted for Obama in the two previous elections.
Tell me pinhead, were they stupid then?
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Well, "According to one side or the other . . ." but never mind what I wrote, just go on with your bad self, you bad whamma jamma!
 
Bernie Sanders said:
http://www.woodfortrees.org/graph/g...from:1979/to:2017/plot/uah5/from:1979/to:2017

Divergence.
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Christy et al. at UAH impeached their own data (the rss and uah sets in your plot) after they admitted the errors that others had found. They published a paper beginning with this --

Temperature Trends in the Lower Atmosphere
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Understanding and Reconciling Differences
EXECUTIVE SUMMARY
Convening Lead Author:
Tom M. L. Wigley, NSF NCAR
Lead Authors:
V. Ramaswamy, NOAA; J.R. Christy, Univ. of AL
in Huntsville; J.R. Lanzante, NOAA; C.A. Mears, Remote Sensing
Systems; B.D. Santer, DOE LLNL; C.K. Folland, U.K. Met Office
PB
1
Abstract
Previously reported discrepancies between the amount of warming near the surface and higher in the atmosphere have been used to challenge the reliability of climate models and the reality of human-induced global warming. Specifically, surface data showed substantial global-average warming, while early versions of satellite and radiosonde data showed little or no warming above the surface. This significant discrepancy no longer exists because errors in the satellite and radiosonde data have been identified and corrected. New data sets have also been developed that do not show such discrepancies.
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https://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/bibliography/related_files/tmlw0602.pdf

This has been pointed out to you in the past.
 
espola said:
Christy et al. at UAH impeached their own data (the rss and uah sets in your plot) after they admitted the errors that others had found. They published a paper beginning with this --

Temperature Trends in the Lower Atmosphere
-
Understanding and Reconciling Differences
EXECUTIVE SUMMARY
Convening Lead Author:
Tom M. L. Wigley, NSF NCAR
Lead Authors:
V. Ramaswamy, NOAA; J.R. Christy, Univ. of AL
in Huntsville; J.R. Lanzante, NOAA; C.A. Mears, Remote Sensing
Systems; B.D. Santer, DOE LLNL; C.K. Folland, U.K. Met Office
PB
1
Abstract
Previously reported discrepancies between the amount of warming near the surface and higher in the atmosphere have been used to challenge the reliability of climate models and the reality of human-induced global warming. Specifically, surface data showed substantial global-average warming, while early versions of satellite and radiosonde data showed little or no warming above the surface. This significant discrepancy no longer exists because errors in the satellite and radiosonde data have been identified and corrected. New data sets have also been developed that do not show such discrepancies.
​
https://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/bibliography/related_files/tmlw0602.pdf

This has been pointed out to you in the past.
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Hilarious.
 
espola said:
Previously reported discrepancies between the amount of warming near the surface and higher in the atmosphere have been used to challenge the reliability of climate models and the reality of human-induced global warming. Specifically, surface data showed substantial global-average warming, while early versions of satellite and radiosonde data showed little or no warming above the surface. This significant discrepancy no longer exists because errors in the satellite and radiosonde data have been identified and corrected. New data sets have also been developed that do not show such discrepancies.
​
https://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/bibliography/related_files/tmlw0602.pdf
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Why are the two sets of data diverging?
 
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