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Hüsker Dü said:
The frog does not drink up the pond in which he lives.
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And.....

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Rodents at work .......
 
nononono said:
Socialist California where " Freedom of Choice " is a thing in the past........

F@#$'n Jerry......what an Idiot....
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It makes sense to incorporate that cost with a new home.
The question is, how will the state tax the use of the sun?
They will find a way...
 
Lion Eyes said:
It makes sense to incorporate that cost with a new home.
The question is, how will the state tax the use of the sun?
They will find a way...
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It may make sense, but the decision to incorporate should be left to the builder.
The solar lobby probably has a hand in this, as did the fire sprinkler, and construction hardware manufacturers in their respective aspects of statewide construction mandates.
 
Ricky Fandango said:
It may make sense, but the decision to incorporate should be left to the builder.
The solar lobby probably has a hand in this, as did the fire sprinkler, and construction hardware manufacturers in their respective aspects of statewide construction mandates.
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Do you feel the same about other lobbyist that influence politicians to do their bidding as well? The ones that collude to keep costs artificially high? . . . and the ones that lobby for actions that will endanger people's health?
 
Ricky Fandango said:
Is this the "whataboutism" you've been alluding to?
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Do you have a business license? Do you believe everyone should? Do you have a plumber's license? Do you feel all plumber's should? Do you like the fact that in the US we pay more for less in many catagories due to lobbyist influence? . . . or is it just things you see as "liberal causes"?
 
Hüsker Dü said:
No, I am wondering if you find fault with the other lobbyist that work against what could be conceived by some as the best public interest.
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Yes.
And yes it is "whataboutism".
Be honest.

My first post on this issue answered your question.
Residential fire sprinklers and redundant hardware are the result of lobbyists working as what could be conceived by some, as not in the best public interest.
In many cases, homeowner's insurance rates go up when fire sprinklers are installed.
While high occupancy commercial buildings and high rises, (where egress is limited) have shown a clear safety benefit with fire sprinklers, residential applications are, in most cases, worthless.
 
Hüsker Dü said:
Do you have a business license? Do you believe everyone should? Do you have a plumber's license? Do you feel all plumber's should? Do you like the fact that in the US we pay more for less in many catagories due to lobbyist influence? . . . or is it just things you see as "liberal causes"?
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Dont be stupid.
The cases I brought up are not "liberal" or "conservative".
They are the result of crony capitalism and big government.
 
Ricky Fandango said:
Yes.
And yes it is "whataboutism".
Be honest.

My first post on this issue answered your question.
Residential fire sprinklers and redundant hardware are the result of lobbyists working as what could be conceived by some, as not in the best public interest.
In many cases, homeowner's insurance rates go up when fire sprinklers are installed.
While high occupancy commercial buildings and high rises, (where egress is limited) have shown a clear safety benefit with fire sprinklers, residential applications are, in most cases, worthless.
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. . . and if set off accidentally can cause thousands in damage.

My whole point is get money out of politics, all of it . . . but then again those interests with powerful lobbyist influence would just shift more money into swaying public opinion, more than they already do. Those with the gold make the rules. Yay or nay?
 
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