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Hüsker Dü said:
No, I am wondering if you find fault with the other lobbyist that work against what could be conceived by some as the best public interest.
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Yes.
And yes it is "whataboutism".
Be honest.

My first post on this issue answered your question.
Residential fire sprinklers and redundant hardware are the result of lobbyists working as what could be conceived by some, as not in the best public interest.
In many cases, homeowner's insurance rates go up when fire sprinklers are installed.
While high occupancy commercial buildings and high rises, (where egress is limited) have shown a clear safety benefit with fire sprinklers, residential applications are, in most cases, worthless.
 
Hüsker Dü said:
Do you have a business license? Do you believe everyone should? Do you have a plumber's license? Do you feel all plumber's should? Do you like the fact that in the US we pay more for less in many catagories due to lobbyist influence? . . . or is it just things you see as "liberal causes"?
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Dont be stupid.
The cases I brought up are not "liberal" or "conservative".
They are the result of crony capitalism and big government.
 
Ricky Fandango said:
Yes.
And yes it is "whataboutism".
Be honest.

My first post on this issue answered your question.
Residential fire sprinklers and redundant hardware are the result of lobbyists working as what could be conceived by some, as not in the best public interest.
In many cases, homeowner's insurance rates go up when fire sprinklers are installed.
While high occupancy commercial buildings and high rises, (where egress is limited) have shown a clear safety benefit with fire sprinklers, residential applications are, in most cases, worthless.
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. . . and if set off accidentally can cause thousands in damage.

My whole point is get money out of politics, all of it . . . but then again those interests with powerful lobbyist influence would just shift more money into swaying public opinion, more than they already do. Those with the gold make the rules. Yay or nay?
 
Hüsker Dü said:
. . . and if set off accidentally can cause thousands in damage.

My whole point is get money out of politics, all of it . . . but then again those interests with powerful lobbyist influence would just shift more money into swaying public opinion, more than they already do. Those with the gold make the rules. Yay or nay?
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The Citizens United decision was the inevitable conclusion of money in politics, and coincidentally made it easier for money to have influence in our politics.
 
Lion Eyes said:
It makes sense to incorporate that cost with a new home.
The question is, how will the state tax the use of the sun?
They will find a way...
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Still a Matter of Choice....
And California wouldn't be " Forcing " Solar if they
had not shuttered Newly constructed Power Plants
that would have been VERY efficient with Co-generation
aspects that were to be involved.......They farm out the power
generation to other states such as Arizona that could have
been done here. Gov Jerry Brown did that to reduced the
Fake False premise of Carbon emissions to appease the
Globalist Agenda.....
 
Ricky Fandango said:
Yes.
And yes it is "whataboutism".
Be honest.

My first post on this issue answered your question.
Residential fire sprinklers and redundant hardware are the result of lobbyists working as what could be conceived by some, as not in the best public interest.
In many cases, homeowner's insurance rates go up when fire sprinklers are installed.
While high occupancy commercial buildings and high rises, (where egress is limited) have shown a clear safety benefit with fire sprinklers, residential applications are, in most cases, worthless.
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https://flsamerica.com/blog/sprinklers-lower-insurance-rates/
 
Global warming.......:cool:



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Ricky Fandango said:
BS.
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My, what a thorough, well-reasoned argument.

I know personally of two accidental fire sprinkler activations - one in a friend's private Mission Bay area condo (a painter popped open a sprinkler head) and one in a hotel where I have done some work many years ago (a pipe froze and burst in the unheated attic). In both instances, the water damage was much less than fire damage would have been. In the hotel case, a small fire in an antique electrical wiring some years earlier (the hotel was originally built in the 1840's, the wiring was installed some time after Edison invented the light bulb) required the whole hotel to be evacuated and cleaned from smoke and water damage, while the sprinkler accident only damaged 5 rooms (out of 39) and the restaurant in the basement.
 
espola said:
Navy says no to wind farms off California coast --

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/business/energy-green/sd-fi-offshore-wind-20180506-story.html

I see a good opportunity for Mexico here.
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Mexico or those who invest there are bound to make a fortune if they can see their way through to taking advantage of the opportunities they have in selling us things we aren't willing to do or are too expensive here. Desalinization might be one . . . besides cut-rate drugs, medical procedures, veterinarian services not to mention their labor force (they should be signing people up and renting their services to the US). They could own us in a couple generations if they were smart, but then again they can't even rid themselves of the mafia or the cartels so . . .
 
Hüsker Dü said:
Mexico or those who invest there are bound to make a fortune if they can see their way through to taking advantage of the opportunities they have in selling us things we aren't willing to do or are too expensive here. Desalinization might be one . . . besides cut-rate drugs, medical procedures, veterinarian services not to mention their labor force (they should be signing people up and renting their services to the US). They could own us in a couple generations if they were smart, but then again they can't even rid themselves of the mafia or the cartels so . . .
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Even if the Navy nixes wind farms near San Diego, developers could put them up in Mexican waters within sight of the entrance to San Diego Bay.
 
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