Climate and Weather

Bernie Sanders said:
I would not be surprised to get into the delorean, jet back 120,000 years, apply the same attention, and see a really radical swing at the top of that matterhorn.
We could also dial in 500,000 years back on the flux capacitor, and see a more homogenous period of climate fluctuation, sans human "forcings".
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You could save some gas, only go back ~75,000 years, and catch Toba. That gave the temp anomaly graph a pretty good short term twitch.
 
Lion Eyes said:
You have a hard time with what has been posted previously.
I believe that the climate is changing. It always has.
I don't know that we, humans, can stop it from happening.
Do you think if we stop burning fossil fuels, kill all the live stock and 1/2 the human population that would stop the warming of the earth?
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An early sign of desperation in a debate is when one party starts throwing up straw men.
 
EvilGoalie 21 said:
You could save some gas, only go back ~75,000 years, and catch Toba. That gave the temp anomaly graph a pretty good short term twitch.
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What jumps out at me, and really gets me thinking, is how the earth turns its climate on a dime throughout history.
You see a pattern of warming, and precipitous climbing of greenhouse gasses, and then it just shuts it down, and falls like a tumbler pidgeon.
I just thank God we can bitch about how balmy it is because we have the fortune of living near a warming peak.
Those low points on the scale musta been a living hell.
 
Bernie Sanders said:
No. I have it right.
You assume that the political influence only taints one side of an argument, as does "skeptical" science.
EG21 compared it to a counter equivelent of WUWT. I wouldnt say that.
I would have it in the religious dogma court. WUWT actually accepts some counter arguments for consideration.
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I guess there is a little political messaging going on there, but the vast majority of it's content is pure peer reviewed science. Are you saying they actively reject good science that doesn't support AGW?
 
Bernie Sanders said:
No. I have it right.
You assume that the political influence only taints one side of an argument, as does "skeptical" science.
EG21 compared it to a counter equivelent of WUWT. I wouldnt say that.
I would have it in the religious dogma court. WUWT actually accepts some counter arguments for consideration.
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If it sets off ACC alarm bells, it's politics. If it doesn't, it's science. That how the climate blogosphere works. Or doesn't. Lillies of the field.
 
I got home early and I will tell you, those tomatoes, eggplants and peppers gotta get ate.
I have the best southern italian recipe for doing just that.
Anyone need it, let me know.

Climate wise in my neck of the coastal sage brush, we had a good year for all three. My eggplant was, and always is, the best.
Tomatoes, delicioso!!
Chiles of all shapes and sizes, the best!
 
Bernie Sanders said:
You tell me.
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I think the site has tons of raw data and studies done by scientist who have no political agenda. The notion that NASA, NOAA and countless other science agencies are a part of the left wing conspiracy is just too much to swallow...

We're in full agreement that policy should not be set by alarmists. The science should guide common sense policy proposals.
 
Wez said:
I think the site has tons of raw data and studies done by scientist who have no political agenda. The notion that NASA, NOAA and countless other science agencies are a part of the left wing conspiracy is just too much to swallow...

We're in full agreement that policy should not be set by alarmists. The science should guide common sense policy proposals.
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Ah yes, common $en$e. So naive.
 
espola said:
"stop burning fossil fuels, kill all the live stock and 1/2 the human population" - who is proposing that?
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According to some, those things are the main cause of climate change/global warming... being in a jocular mood I facetiously threw it out there.
Apparently you're the only one confused by the tongue in cheek remark.
Have great day Magoo...
 
Lion Eyes said:
According to some, those things are the main cause of climate change/global warming... being in a jocular mood I facetiously threw it out there.
Apparently you're the only one confused by the tongue in cheek remark.
Have great day Magoo...
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After erecting your strawmen, you burn them down - the second stage of debate desperation.

It is fine to abandon silly arguments, but now you are left with nothing.

"According to some" ? Now you are talking like Trump. You're not fooling anybody.
 
espola said:
After erecting your strawmen, you burn them down - the second stage of debate desperation.

It is fine to abandon silly arguments, but now you are left with nothing.

"According to some" ? Now you are talking like Trump. You're not fooling anybody.
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"Manhattan Project",...yes, thats the answer...hmmmm.
 
espola said:
After erecting your strawmen, you burn them down - the second stage of debate desperation.

It is fine to abandon silly arguments, but now you are left with nothing.

"According to some" ? Now you are talking like Trump. You're not fooling anybody.
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Debate?
Still confused?
Where is your Visiting Angel companion?
Is she aware your on line unsupervised?
Please don't get out on the highways and byways until your meds kick in or you get a self driving car.
Thanks MAgoo.
Have a ground hogs day great day...
 
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