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Bernie Sanders said:
No. I have it right.
You assume that the political influence only taints one side of an argument, as does "skeptical" science.
EG21 compared it to a counter equivelent of WUWT. I wouldnt say that.
I would have it in the religious dogma court. WUWT actually accepts some counter arguments for consideration.
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I guess there is a little political messaging going on there, but the vast majority of it's content is pure peer reviewed science. Are you saying they actively reject good science that doesn't support AGW?
 
Bernie Sanders said:
No. I have it right.
You assume that the political influence only taints one side of an argument, as does "skeptical" science.
EG21 compared it to a counter equivelent of WUWT. I wouldnt say that.
I would have it in the religious dogma court. WUWT actually accepts some counter arguments for consideration.
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If it sets off ACC alarm bells, it's politics. If it doesn't, it's science. That how the climate blogosphere works. Or doesn't. Lillies of the field.
 
I got home early and I will tell you, those tomatoes, eggplants and peppers gotta get ate.
I have the best southern italian recipe for doing just that.
Anyone need it, let me know.

Climate wise in my neck of the coastal sage brush, we had a good year for all three. My eggplant was, and always is, the best.
Tomatoes, delicioso!!
Chiles of all shapes and sizes, the best!
 
Bernie Sanders said:
You tell me.
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I think the site has tons of raw data and studies done by scientist who have no political agenda. The notion that NASA, NOAA and countless other science agencies are a part of the left wing conspiracy is just too much to swallow...

We're in full agreement that policy should not be set by alarmists. The science should guide common sense policy proposals.
 
Wez said:
I think the site has tons of raw data and studies done by scientist who have no political agenda. The notion that NASA, NOAA and countless other science agencies are a part of the left wing conspiracy is just too much to swallow...

We're in full agreement that policy should not be set by alarmists. The science should guide common sense policy proposals.
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Ah yes, common $en$e. So naive.
 
espola said:
"stop burning fossil fuels, kill all the live stock and 1/2 the human population" - who is proposing that?
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According to some, those things are the main cause of climate change/global warming... being in a jocular mood I facetiously threw it out there.
Apparently you're the only one confused by the tongue in cheek remark.
Have great day Magoo...
 
Lion Eyes said:
According to some, those things are the main cause of climate change/global warming... being in a jocular mood I facetiously threw it out there.
Apparently you're the only one confused by the tongue in cheek remark.
Have great day Magoo...
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After erecting your strawmen, you burn them down - the second stage of debate desperation.

It is fine to abandon silly arguments, but now you are left with nothing.

"According to some" ? Now you are talking like Trump. You're not fooling anybody.
 
espola said:
After erecting your strawmen, you burn them down - the second stage of debate desperation.

It is fine to abandon silly arguments, but now you are left with nothing.

"According to some" ? Now you are talking like Trump. You're not fooling anybody.
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"Manhattan Project",...yes, thats the answer...hmmmm.
 
espola said:
After erecting your strawmen, you burn them down - the second stage of debate desperation.

It is fine to abandon silly arguments, but now you are left with nothing.

"According to some" ? Now you are talking like Trump. You're not fooling anybody.
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Debate?
Still confused?
Where is your Visiting Angel companion?
Is she aware your on line unsupervised?
Please don't get out on the highways and byways until your meds kick in or you get a self driving car.
Thanks MAgoo.
Have a ground hogs day great day...
 
Lion Eyes said:
Debate?
Still confused?
Where is your Visiting Angel companion?
Is she aware your on line unsupervised?
Please don't get out on the highways and byways until your meds kick in or you get a self driving car.
Thanks MAgoo.
Have a ground hogs day great day...
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Third clue of debate failure -- false ad hominem arguments.
 
More ad hominem attacks.....
The earth has been warmer, the earth has been cooler.
What exactly do you think should be done to stop this phenomenon?

"At the time of the mid-Pliocene Warm Period, average global temperatures were about 1 to 2 degrees Celsius higher than today, but concentrations of atmospheric carbon dioxide, at around 400 parts per million, were pretty much where they are now. The prospect of a significant collapse of the East Antarctic ice sheet -- as well as that covering West Antarctica, which is modeled to collapse first -- portends a dramatic rise in sea levels worldwide."

Entire article:
http://www.seeker.com/antarctic-fos...m=xpromo&utm_source=AOL&utm_campaign=carousel
 
Lion, seriously, why do you keep reminding people here that the Earth's temp has changed in the past?

No one has or is arguing that fact.

The discussion around AGW/ACC is about the recent dramatic change, how much further the warming may go and what the implications are.

Continually saying the Earth's temperature has changed in the past add nothing to the discussion.
 
Wez said:
Lion, seriously, why do you keep reminding people here that the Earth's temp has changed in the past?

No one has or is arguing that fact.

The discussion around AGW/ACC is about the recent dramatic change, how much further the warming may go and what the implications are.

Continually saying the Earth's temperature has changed in the past add nothing to the discussion.
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Recent Dramatic change? Why do you make such a dramatic argument while contributing to AGW and funding the fossil fuel industry with your trip to Hawaii. "Hypocrisy much?"
 
Lion Eyes said:
More ad hominem attacks.....
The earth has been warmer, the earth has been cooler.
What exactly do you think should be done to stop this phenomenon?

"At the time of the mid-Pliocene Warm Period, average global temperatures were about 1 to 2 degrees Celsius higher than today, but concentrations of atmospheric carbon dioxide, at around 400 parts per million, were pretty much where they are now. The prospect of a significant collapse of the East Antarctic ice sheet -- as well as that covering West Antarctica, which is modeled to collapse first -- portends a dramatic rise in sea levels worldwide."

Entire article:
http://www.seeker.com/antarctic-fos...m=xpromo&utm_source=AOL&utm_campaign=carousel
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Don't expect an original solution from Wez. He's busy trying to figure out how to get to Hawaii on alternative fuel.
 
Wez said:
Lion, seriously, why do you keep reminding people here that the Earth's temp has changed in the past?

No one has or is arguing that fact.

The discussion around AGW/ACC is about the recent dramatic change, how much further the warming may go and what the implications are.

Continually saying the Earth's temperature has changed in the past add nothing to the discussion.
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The temps in the past have changed dramatically over very short periods of time.
Not only that, they have fallen dramatically precisely when peak co2 concentrations were highest.
Can you tell me why?
 
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