Climate and Weather

Debate?
Still confused?
Where is your Visiting Angel companion?
Is she aware your on line unsupervised?
Please don't get out on the highways and byways until your meds kick in or you get a self driving car.
Thanks MAgoo.
Have a ground hogs day great day...

Third clue of debate failure -- false ad hominem arguments.
 
More ad hominem attacks.....
The earth has been warmer, the earth has been cooler.
What exactly do you think should be done to stop this phenomenon?

"At the time of the mid-Pliocene Warm Period, average global temperatures were about 1 to 2 degrees Celsius higher than today, but concentrations of atmospheric carbon dioxide, at around 400 parts per million, were pretty much where they are now. The prospect of a significant collapse of the East Antarctic ice sheet -- as well as that covering West Antarctica, which is modeled to collapse first -- portends a dramatic rise in sea levels worldwide."

Entire article:
http://www.seeker.com/antarctic-fos...m=xpromo&utm_source=AOL&utm_campaign=carousel
 
Lion, seriously, why do you keep reminding people here that the Earth's temp has changed in the past?

No one has or is arguing that fact.

The discussion around AGW/ACC is about the recent dramatic change, how much further the warming may go and what the implications are.

Continually saying the Earth's temperature has changed in the past add nothing to the discussion.
 
Lion, seriously, why do you keep reminding people here that the Earth's temp has changed in the past?

No one has or is arguing that fact.

The discussion around AGW/ACC is about the recent dramatic change, how much further the warming may go and what the implications are.

Continually saying the Earth's temperature has changed in the past add nothing to the discussion.
Recent Dramatic change? Why do you make such a dramatic argument while contributing to AGW and funding the fossil fuel industry with your trip to Hawaii. "Hypocrisy much?"
 
More ad hominem attacks.....
The earth has been warmer, the earth has been cooler.
What exactly do you think should be done to stop this phenomenon?

"At the time of the mid-Pliocene Warm Period, average global temperatures were about 1 to 2 degrees Celsius higher than today, but concentrations of atmospheric carbon dioxide, at around 400 parts per million, were pretty much where they are now. The prospect of a significant collapse of the East Antarctic ice sheet -- as well as that covering West Antarctica, which is modeled to collapse first -- portends a dramatic rise in sea levels worldwide."

Entire article:
http://www.seeker.com/antarctic-fos...m=xpromo&utm_source=AOL&utm_campaign=carousel
Don't expect an original solution from Wez. He's busy trying to figure out how to get to Hawaii on alternative fuel.
 
Lion, seriously, why do you keep reminding people here that the Earth's temp has changed in the past?

No one has or is arguing that fact.

The discussion around AGW/ACC is about the recent dramatic change, how much further the warming may go and what the implications are.

Continually saying the Earth's temperature has changed in the past add nothing to the discussion.
The temps in the past have changed dramatically over very short periods of time.
Not only that, they have fallen dramatically precisely when peak co2 concentrations were highest.
Can you tell me why?
 
Lion, seriously, why do you keep reminding people here that the Earth's temp has changed in the past?

The discussion around AGW/ACC is about the recent dramatic change, how much further the warming may go and what the implications are.

Continually saying the Earth's temperature has changed in the past add nothing to the discussion.

Wez, seriously, I continue to remind those that choose to ignore the fact that climate is cyclical. and beyond man's control.
Seriously, why do you continue to suggest that man can somehow stop climate change?
Dude.....:cool:
 
Wez, seriously, I continue to remind those that choose to ignore the fact that climate is cyclical. and beyond man's control.

Awesome, in one post you've managed to remind people of what the obvious is and at the same time, make a biblical assertion that despite, man's ability to affect the environment with it's activities, we cannot then control what those activities are.

But wait, are you saying that no matter what man does, we cannot have any affect on our Planet's environment?
 
Awesome, in one post you've managed to remind people of what the obvious is and at the same time, make a biblical assertion that despite, man's ability to affect the environment with it's activities, we cannot then control what those activities are.

But wait, are you saying that no matter what man does, we cannot have any affect on our Planet's environment?

International agreements have effectively constrained the man-made effects on the environment known as the ozone hole and acid rain.
 
The flux capacitor doest use gas. It runs exclusively on bullshit, which is a c02 and methane contributer.

Never caught that movie. Sounds like a form of Inhofe propulsion. You could let him ride shotgun on your sojourns to the past. Always have a source of fuel that way. As long as you don't mind driving with the windows down. Actually, if you topped off before you left, you could leave his ass stranded somewhere in the middle of the Pleistocene, like Magellan abandoning Cartagena to his fate on the lonely shores of an unknown continent. Circle him on the way out, watching him boiling over in rage, spewing forth heat and noxious carbon. All his half-baked conspiracy theories finally emerging from his internal ovens completely cooked and crumbling to creosote before his eyes. When you got back to the present he'd be reduced and compressed into a lovely peat bog, and you could set to work crafting some of the most distinctive single malt whiskies the world has ever known. Bottle it under the name "Mountain Jim". We could get together after a game sometime and toast your success and act of public service. At least that's how I see it.
 
Awesome, in one post you've managed to remind people of what the obvious is and at the same time, make a biblical assertion that despite, man's ability to affect the environment with it's activities, we cannot then control what those activities are.

But wait, are you saying that no matter what man does, we cannot have any affect on our Planet's environment?
But wait, are you saying that no matter what man does, your trip to Hawaii cannot have any affect on our planet's environment.
 
Well, I suppose it's also possible Inhofe would survive in his new setting, perhaps interbreeding with a protohuman hominid species. Not a pretty picture. Wake up one morning to find that instead of 1% Neanderthal, we're all 1% Inhofe. And, as one of my son's former coaches (since gone Surfin') used to say, "That, gentleman, is completely unacceptable".
 
But wait, are you saying that no matter what man does, your trip to Hawaii cannot have any affect on our planet's environment.

Come on. CO2 emissions from a jet flight to Hawaii. Divide by number of passengers. One vacation a year so multiply by 1. Compute, say, CO2 released during an average 30 min round trip hauling a kid to soccer practice and games. And for many of us it would clearly be twice that at least, counting drives to Palmdale and so forth. Multiple by what, at least 100. Probably more but 100 makes it easy. Whose got the bigger carbon footprint? Anybody want to run the numbers? Who knows, Wez could argue he was helping to save the planet by taking a vacation and not driving back and forth to soccer for that week. Unless he's got a hybrid. But then's he's accrued carbon credits, no?
 
Well, I suppose it's also possible Inhofe would survive in his new setting, perhaps interbreeding with a protohuman hominid species. Not a pretty picture. Wake up one morning to find that instead of 1% Neanderthal, we're all 1% Inhofe. And, as one of my son's former coaches (since gone Surfin') used to say, "That, gentleman, is completely unacceptable".
Don't worry about Inhofe. He is about as harmless as Ehrlich.
 
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