Climate and Weather

Look at a map of the world. Count all the cities which are on coastal floodplains.

That's a lot of infrastructure to lose to sea level rise.

You could try to protect it all like Venice and New Orleans. That's expensive, too.

The other thing to remember is that the current path eventually runs out. There is a global temperature at which we can't grow food. "Add 100 ppm every century" is not a viable option.

That means the question is not whether we switch energy sources, but when.
Now all we need is Espola to "like" for the Trifecta. It's good to see all three of you at the forum again. Let's all start chatting about climate change for a change. I will bring back crush if you three ask for the return crush. I actually spoke to crush just the other day and he said that he will come back if called to duty. For the record, I believe the climate is changing all the time and I believe weather is very unpredictable, just like the ocean. For example, Laguna has been June gloom all summer. Little rain this week. The water is getting warm now but all summer it was cold dad. Water Temperature changes all the time. Maybe too many people are peeing in the ocean now to warm it up?
 
Not once?

"Sen. James Inhofe, a Republican from Oklahoma, is perhaps one of the most well-known climate deniers in the U.S. Congress. He famously brought a snowball to the Senate floor in 2015 to argue that global warming was a hoax because it was still cold outside. This simplistic understanding of climate change ignores the difference between weather and climate and the fact that global warming refers to long-term trends, not individual weather events."

There's once.

You lost me at "a republican". Why is political party relevant in a subject like this, Fudd? And I don't see any facts in there about denying climate change. Do you? I see name calling. "This simplistic understanding..." shows me the article was written by tree hugging, layer wearing libtards.
 
Graph of CO2 levels from the last several ice ages:

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Evidence | Facts – Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet (nasa.gov)

"exiting an ice age" looks like the uphill bits in the yellow line. It happens every 50K-100K years, and never takes you above 300ppm CO2.

Now, is it possible that the human-caused climate change is overlaid on top of the end of an ice age? Sure. But that doesn't mean the tail end of the "ice age ending" factor is even close to the scale of the "burning a shit load of coal" factor.
Do you know what LGM is? I mean without having to Google it..
I thought as much...
 
Graph of CO2 levels from the last several ice ages:

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Evidence | Facts – Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet (nasa.gov)

"exiting an ice age" looks like the uphill bits in the yellow line. It happens every 50K-100K years, and never takes you above 300ppm CO2.

Now, is it possible that the human-caused climate change is overlaid on top of the end of an ice age? Sure. But that doesn't mean the tail end of the "ice age ending" factor is even close to the scale of the "burning a shit load of coal" factor.
Do you know what LGM is? I mean without having to Google it..
And..
 
LGM?

Until you bother to define your terms, I will assume you mean “Let’s Get Married”.

No thank you. You’re not my type.
It's not my term. You appear to be lacking in your knowledge when it comes to the graph you posted. Maybe it shouldn't come as a surprise to me. Richard likes all your post, and like Richard, you are depending too much on Google.

You're doing your best to appear kmowlegable in a subject that you're not. Kinda like Richard claiming to be a Cryptographer... I threw him a basic term that any Crytographer worth his salt would know and he failed.

To your credit, you haven't claimed to be a climatologists, but that makes it even more puzzling. You talk about science and facts and yet you know no more then a eight grader doing a report and using Google as his source.

I threw you a big fat softball and you swung and missed. I know I know.. You'll do a quick online search to back up your facts. But do yourself a favor.. use a different search engine.

Enjoy your evening. Hope your team wins.
 
It's obviously Lawyers, Guns, and Money -- the new baseline tactic for trumpies.
Do you like salt with your hash? Still no?

And it looks like you also fail the LGM test. But I already knew you would. Now go and spy on all the foreign visitors like Russia does. Or post something about urinal habits. And you really troll D4 a lot...
 
Look at a map of the world. Count all the cities which are on coastal floodplains.

That's a lot of infrastructure to lose to sea level rise.

You could try to protect it all like Venice and New Orleans. That's expensive, too.

The other thing to remember is that the current path eventually runs out. There is a global temperature at which we can't grow food. "Add 100 ppm every century" is not a viable option.

That means the question is not whether we switch energy sources, but when.
Do you think that measuring atmospheric CO2 on top of a volcano will provide reliable data for us to go off of?
 
LGM?

Did you actually have a point? I thought you were just showing off your ability to copy an acronym from some video you watched.

If you have a point, make it.
 
LGM?

Did you actually have a point? I thought you were just showing off your ability to copy an acronym from some video you watched.

If you have a point, make it.
Touchy..

You posted the graph, not me. Not my fault you're posting stuff that you don't understand.

Do you believe that measuring atmospheric CO2 on top of a volcano will provide reliable data for us to go off of?

Can you answer that question? It's an easy one.
 
Touchy..

You posted the graph, not me. Not my fault you're posting stuff that you don't understand.

Do you believe that measuring atmospheric CO2 on top of a volcano will provide reliable data for us to go off of?

Can you answer that question? It's an easy one.
If the volcano is releasing too much CO2, then the answer is no. That volcano is active. You and your equipment will stop functioning when it erupts. Next life, choose a more geologically stable site for your observatory.

What’s with the stupid gotcha questions? If you actually have a brain, engage it. You’re acting like a kid on a school bus who wants to prove he’s smart.

I have given you an argument: Glacial cycles take far more than 200 years to do anything. Therefore, the last 200 years of warming is not a normal glacial cycle.

Agree with it, or come up with a counterargument.
 
If the volcano is releasing too much CO2, then the answer is no. That volcano is active. You and your equipment will stop functioning when it erupts. Next life, choose a more geologically stable site for your observatory.

What’s with the stupid gotcha questions? If you actually have a brain, engage it. You’re acting like a kid on a school bus who wants to prove he’s smart.

I have given you an argument: Glacial cycles take far more than 200 years to do anything. Therefore, the last 200 years of warming is not a normal glacial cycle.

Agree with it, or come up with a counterargument.

"Gases from Mauna Loa’s crater, which is 4 miles (6 kilometers) away from the observatory, can temporarily raise the amount of CO2 in the air. Prevailing winds generally prevent volcanic gases from reaching the observatory, but when the wind is light, it can happen. However, the influx of volcanic CO2 is immediately noticeable because the readings jump upward sharply, and by amounts far larger than normal seasonal fluctuations. These brief spikes are not included in the final data because they’re caused by short-term, local variations, and they don’t reflect the long-term average that the observatory strives to measure."

 
It's not my term. You appear to be lacking in your knowledge when it comes to the graph you posted. Maybe it shouldn't come as a surprise to me. Richard likes all your post, and like Richard, you are depending too much on Google.

You're doing your best to appear kmowlegable in a subject that you're not. Kinda like Richard claiming to be a Cryptographer... I threw him a basic term that any Crytographer worth his salt would know and he failed.

To your credit, you haven't claimed to be a climatologists, but that makes it even more puzzling. You talk about science and facts and yet you know no more then a eight grader doing a report and using Google as his source.

I threw you a big fat softball and you swung and missed. I know I know.. You'll do a quick online search to back up your facts. But do yourself a favor.. use a different search engine.

Enjoy your evening. Hope your team wins.
He sure claimed to be a Maskologist. Dad is the nicer of the four and he will engage a debate and answer a few questions from time to time. Where's Husker?
 
From the Donald:
"We just sent $520,000,000 to Ukraine to “make their energy cleaner.”

"The Biden Administration wants to now make our Army Tanks all Electric so that, despite the fact that they will not be able to go very far, fewer pollutants will be released into the air."
 
"Gases from Mauna Loa’s crater, which is 4 miles (6 kilometers) away from the observatory, can temporarily raise the amount of CO2 in the air. Prevailing winds generally prevent volcanic gases from reaching the observatory, but when the wind is light, it can happen. However, the influx of volcanic CO2 is immediately noticeable because the readings jump upward sharply, and by amounts far larger than normal seasonal fluctuations. These brief spikes are not included in the final data because they’re caused by short-term, local variations, and they don’t reflect the long-term average that the observatory strives to measure."

Cool.

Mostly I was messing with him. That’s why I chose a useless response about active volcanos instead of actually answering his question.

He’s a lightweight pretending to know more than he does. People who actually have a scientific background don’t waste their time saying “Ha! You don’t even know what XXXXXXX is.”. They just define their term so they can talk about the science, because that’s what they find interesting.
 
Cool.

Mostly I was messing with him. That’s why I chose a useless response about active volcanos instead of actually answering his question.

He’s a lightweight pretending to know more than he does. People who actually have a scientific background don’t waste their time saying “Ha! You don’t even know what XXXXXXX is.”. They just define their term so they can talk about the science, because that’s what they find interesting.
You won’t get much if that in here. Maybe from E he seems to actually do some research beyond a quick Google. I’m the first to admit these numbers and studies are beyond my pay grade. I’ll just side with the experts, the 97% so to speak.
 
You won’t get much if that in here. Maybe from E he seems to actually do some research beyond a quick Google. I’m the first to admit these numbers and studies are beyond my pay grade. I’ll just side with the experts, the 97% so to speak.
And they all get paid to play. It's great to see you and Dad together. Now let's get Expola out here today so were all engaged. It's time to save America. I'll go let crush know your here. I'm so happy today. TGIFF. Cheers to you and thanks for coming out today.
 
Cool.

Mostly I was messing with him. That’s why I chose a useless response about active volcanos instead of actually answering his question.

He’s a lightweight pretending to know more than he does. People who actually have a scientific background don’t waste their time saying “Ha! You don’t even know what XXXXXXX is.”. They just define their term so they can talk about the science, because that’s what they find interesting.
Discussions like that have already been worked over one or more times in the past so it is usually easy to respond to them (again ).
 
@espola @Hüsker Dü and @dad4

Crush Nation is so proud of you three for coming out today. Climate and the weather are changing you guys. Anyway, I have to go back to Truth Social. Things are heating up. @Ellejustus, hey bro, thanks for all you do. I admire your convictions to end PAY-FOR-PLAY youth soccer. So expensive.
 
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