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nononono said:
I am not insulting you, I am pointing out a cold hard fact. You can either man up and do some research that will open your eyes or you can continue along your present path of DNC - GW/CC like a good little lemming.

Large Bold Font is a Tool and I use to convey a message. Screaming is something that is done with your vocal cords in the presence ( But not always. ) of other humans to attract attention/elicit a response. You must term it correctly and label it with the proper intent.

Any Scientist that knowingly endorses a False premise and the misconstrued data used to support the False premise is NOT worthy of the title he carries.
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Translation = My politically motivated, unsupported, unscientific opinion is so strong I must scream it with large bold font.
 
Wez said:
Translation = My politically motivated, unsupported, unscientific opinion is so strong I must scream it with large bold font.
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That's not what I would call a Scientific retort, that is the babble of a Democratic Liberal Progressive Global Warming/Climate Change supporter who cannot back up his " Religion " with facts.

Balls in the net or sit on the sidelines and bitch.....your choice.
 
In a region under siege from rising sea levels, the heavy rains brought flood worries to a new level. Instead of the storm surge many fear, the rain overwhelmed drainage systems in neighborhoods miles from the Atlantic Ocean and the nearby Chesapeake Bay. Homes that never flooded before were overrun with two or three feet of water.

Experts warn that flooding will likely increase in Virginia's Hampton Roads region, where Virginia Beach and six other cities are clustered on or near the state's low-lying coast. The land is sinking and the sea is rising at the highest rate on the East Coast, they say. Global warming threatens to draw more intense rain storms up the Eastern Seaboard.

http://staging.hosted.ap.org/dynami...ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-11-24-10-30-05
 
Antarctic Sea Ice Has Not Shrunk In 100 Years
Antarctic sea ice had barely changed from where it was 100 years ago, scientists have discovered, after pouring over the logbooks of great polar explorers such as Robert Falcon Scott and Ernest Shackleton. Experts were concerned that ice at the South Pole had declined significantly since the 1950s, which they feared was driven by man-made climate change. But new analysis suggests that conditions are now virtually identical to when the Terra Nova and Endurance sailed to the continent in the early 1900s, indicating that declines are part of a natural cycle and not the result of global warming. –Sarah Knapton, The Daily Telegraph, 24 November 2016
 
Wez said:
Your credibility to be "scientific" went out the window when you posted the false headline about Al Franken and the ballots in the trunk...
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Mr Wez....do you accumulate your knowledge from the back of bubblegum wrappers ?

With each one of your posts you reveal your ignorance on a new level, please for your own sake do some research before you post.

Look up how the Senate seat was filled in the 2008 election in regards to Al Franken.
 
Sheriff Joe said:
Antarctic Sea Ice Has Not Shrunk In 100 Years
Antarctic sea ice had barely changed from where it was 100 years ago, scientists have discovered, after pouring over the logbooks of great polar explorers such as Robert Falcon Scott and Ernest Shackleton. Experts were concerned that ice at the South Pole had declined significantly since the 1950s, which they feared was driven by man-made climate change. But new analysis suggests that conditions are now virtually identical to when the Terra Nova and Endurance sailed to the continent in the early 1900s, indicating that declines are part of a natural cycle and not the result of global warming. –Sarah Knapton, The Daily Telegraph, 24 November 2016
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Correspondingly the Grey matter ( Cumulatively ) of Democratic/Liberal/Progressives have shrunk in regards to their deductive reasoning regions.

And it's obvious as hell.........
 
Hüsker Dü said:
In a region under siege from rising sea levels, the heavy rains brought flood worries to a new level. Instead of the storm surge many fear, the rain overwhelmed drainage systems in neighborhoods miles from the Atlantic Ocean and the nearby Chesapeake Bay. Homes that never flooded before were overrun with two or three feet of water.

Experts warn that flooding will likely increase in Virginia's Hampton Roads region, where Virginia Beach and six other cities are clustered on or near the state's low-lying coast. The land is sinking and the sea is rising at the highest rate on the East Coast, they say. Global warming threatens to draw more intense rain storms up the Eastern Seaboard.

http://staging.hosted.ap.org/dynami...ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-11-24-10-30-05
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Democrat/Liberal/Progressive Global Warming/Climate Change Lemming cry out that the sky is falling as they are fed new talking points.

Man o man, can't you guys/gals think for yourself once in awhile ?
 
nononono said:
Mr Wez....do you accumulate your knowledge from the back of bubblegum wrappers ?

With each one of your posts you reveal your ignorance on a new level, please for your own sake do some research before you post.

Look up how the Senate seat was filled in the 2008 election in regards to Al Franken.
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I did and posted the link, twice, what do you have?
 
Wez said:
I did and posted the link, twice, what do you have?
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I have the TRUTH, you post regurgitated LIES from leftist hack rags who have been proven time and time again to twist or misrepresent the facts til they fit their narrative.
Just as the votes were recounted over and over again until the desired outcome was achieved which put Al Franken in the senate. The senate seat they needed to achieve their goals.
I don't know what alternative universe you inhabited at that time but it sure was not the reality that transpired in Minnesota.

This recaps pretty damn close how Al ( scumbag ) Franken stole the senate seat from Coleman.



How Al Franken Won In Minnesota…If He Did
Friday Jan 23, 2009 3:01 AM





The number who voted for Alan Stuart Franken, 58, for United States Senator was 1,212,431, give or take a few hundred. No one knows for sure. How many double-counted ballots did he get? How many felons’ votes? Other illegals? How many votes (to the nearest thousand, please) did ACORN scrape up for him, tossing voter registration forms like confetti in Democratic strongholds?

To cap it off, how many “votes” did Franken’s acolytes dig up after the election to cover Senator Norm Coleman’s 725-vote advantage on election night? Enough, it seems.


Fraud not so much after Election Day, as before, might have thrust Franken into greatness — er, the Senate. Unless a Hail Mary pass in final proceedings propels incumbent Senator Coleman back into the lead, fraud will have won. Period.



A sufficient number of new votes would have been added to what’s still called a recount. Informed Minnesotans ought to hang their heads in utter shame that it was even close.

Coleman was a respected member of the Senate, an independent mind, a conciliator, a man of principles and fair play. He is far superior, in terms of intellect and experience and cool judgment, than the angry, hate-filled, demagogic, expatriate Minnesotan Al Franken.

Coleman’s expected cakewalk to a second term — by as much as 60-30 percent, it was thought, with a third guy in the race — seemed a certainty. In the polls, he led by double digits up to the very end. In the courts today, he is rated as a long shot.

What the hell happened?

The election was a virtual tie. At it stands now, Franken has a 225-vote lead and the state is shy one senator. If he “wins,” this surreal saga will bring to life his book-length parody, Why Not Me? (1999). To some it will recall his Stuart Smalley sketch of being “good enough, doggone it!”

Think of it: Reality mocks comedy.

When the smoke clears, mirrors put away, the chunky, snarly, obviously unqualified onetime pornographer (for Playboy), a delinquent taxpayer in several states, not paying even workers’ comp premiums for his talk radio employees in New York will have assembled enough votes to “win” — again, if he did.

Get-out-to-vote was all the rage. Minnesota’s goofy same-day registration law kicked in. State election officials swear by this law as “enfranchising.” They are myopically naïve not to see the law serves fraud. No telling how many, at this stage if ever, illegals’ voted. Local election judges, running tainted ballots twice for Franken, helped juice up the total. Shhh. The recount might have been a Potemkin Village, but election day hijinx remains problematical.

Anyone at all can vote in Minnesota, short of plucking names off grave markers. Legitimacy does not count. Election officials choose to trust, but not to verify. Mischief happens in razor-thin elections such as this one in my native state.

Post-election maneuvering nailed down Franken’s perhaps faux “victory.” Coleman’s lawyers were far too kind, practicing “Minnesota Nice.” They faced a pack of snarling partisan tigers out for blood. Truth did not matter. The aim was to “take down Coleman” by any and all means.

Some of Al’s team were imported from Washington state where they had done late deeds before, for the supposed winner there, Gov Christine Gregorie (D-Wash.), in 2004. They “found” enough votes, mainly in King County, to put the former state attorney general in office. What’s not to work in Minnesota? Coleman’s toothless legal team was clearly outlawyerd by crafty outsiders.

They were aided by a wobbly state canvassing board and local courts which bowed to Franken’s demands. It was uncanny. Secretary of State Mark Ritchie, a Democrat Party and ACRORN activist, was chairman of that board. Secretary Ritchie had the audacity — but not the legal authority — to ask all 87 counties to check again (would they please?) for presumed “mistakenly rejected” ballots to count. No uniform standards, each county was on its own. (It was Florida 2000 all over again.)
Selective searching for votes in Democrat-rich counties, sans standards, is inherently unfair, of course. Just as it was when the United States Supreme Court finally ruled in Bush v. Gore (2000) by 7-2, not 5-4. (Thank heavens Miami-Dade stopped the counting nonsense, spawned by the outrageously partisan Florida Supreme Court.)

So, too, in Democrat-rich Minnesota counties, including the one-party Mesabi Iron Range, and in urban areas, trolling for Franken votes went deep. Franken’s people even phoned voters, from lists supplied by friendly counties, seeking to get their intent on rejected ballots. Call this real chutzpah.

It was farcical, if not so tragic, that votes appeared out of the ether, nearly all for Franken — 100 here, another 39 there. It all adds up. At the end, the 725 Coleman margin was breached. The number coming in for Franken was all out of proportion to those coming in for Coleman and the third man in the race, Dean Barkley.

Statistically, it made no sense. Still doesn’t, when you do the math.

Votes for Franken seemed weighted “heavier,” it seems, than for Coleman. “Equal protection” is a thing of the past, although key in Bush v. Gore. In this blue state, Obama got 300,000 more votes than Franken, however, proving a certain alertness to realities among some above-average bears in the Gopher state.

Naturally, the “D” rich counties, same as in Florida in 2000, were tapped for “new” votes for the “recount.” One recalls Gore’s slick attorney David Bois casting about for more “votes” only in four Democrat -rich precincts in Florida, and no where else, such as in the western panhandle, and calling it fair.

If Franken gets the nod, this election will live on in infamy. Loony tunes will have prevailed. One could laugh, or cry, about the result. Maybe both. In any event, its will seem a nightmare sketch from SNL and Franken will laugh all the way to Washington, D.C.

This election from hell turned on one of the nastiest campaigns in state history. The potty-mouth comic employed blatantly false TV spots and print ads besmirching his foe’s reputation, fabricating his record. Vile name calling actually worked. Big-headed Franken said Coleman was a Bush lapdog, a pushover for Big Oil, a sell-out of his Senate votes, and “the fourth most corrupt senator in Congress.” (The latter smear was a non-fact gleaned from Franken ally’s nutty “survey.”) The scummy excrement Franken used to blast Coleman was apparently enough to pass muster with uninformed, gullible, juvenile, celebrity-struck loony tunes of Minnesota — 1.2 million of them! Dumbness carries with it the lack of critical facilities.

It is no surprise, either, that Coleman’s defamation suit against Franken late in the campaign was swept off the table by a see-no, hear-no, speak-no-evil minor court. Just another ruling for the Democrat on the road to dubious, always-to-be-tainted “victory.” Someone ought to write a book!

Whether the 1.2 million voters know it, or care, they’ve besmirched Minnesota’s reputation of sending thoughtful, sensible, skillful politicians to the U.S. Senate — such as Hubert Humphrey, Walter Mondale, David Durenburger and Rudy Boschwitz– with the notable exception lately of the forgettable Mark Dayton, but he’s another wacky story.

Will the legal Franken voters, later recognizing their error in judgment, be ashamed? The short answer is no. Partisan hubris will set in. (Besides, guilt is easily pardoned when "winning is everything.") Rules, who needs ’em? And what did Stalin say about the ballot boxes? Who controls them, wins. Case in point: Minnesota Senatorial Election, 2008
 
nononono said:
I have the TRUTH, you post regurgitated LIES from leftist hack rags who have been proven time and time again to twist or misrepresent the facts til they fit their narrative.
Just as the votes were recounted over and over again until the desired outcome was achieved which put Al Franken in the senate. The senate seat they needed to achieve their goals.
I don't know what alternative universe you inhabited at that time but it sure was not the reality that transpired in Minnesota.

This recaps pretty damn close how Al ( scumbag ) Franken stole the senate seat from Coleman.



How Al Franken Won In Minnesota…If He Did
Friday Jan 23, 2009 3:01 AM





The number who voted for Alan Stuart Franken, 58, for United States Senator was 1,212,431, give or take a few hundred. No one knows for sure. How many double-counted ballots did he get? How many felons’ votes? Other illegals? How many votes (to the nearest thousand, please) did ACORN scrape up for him, tossing voter registration forms like confetti in Democratic strongholds?

To cap it off, how many “votes” did Franken’s acolytes dig up after the election to cover Senator Norm Coleman’s 725-vote advantage on election night? Enough, it seems.


Fraud not so much after Election Day, as before, might have thrust Franken into greatness — er, the Senate. Unless a Hail Mary pass in final proceedings propels incumbent Senator Coleman back into the lead, fraud will have won. Period.



A sufficient number of new votes would have been added to what’s still called a recount. Informed Minnesotans ought to hang their heads in utter shame that it was even close.

Coleman was a respected member of the Senate, an independent mind, a conciliator, a man of principles and fair play. He is far superior, in terms of intellect and experience and cool judgment, than the angry, hate-filled, demagogic, expatriate Minnesotan Al Franken.

Coleman’s expected cakewalk to a second term — by as much as 60-30 percent, it was thought, with a third guy in the race — seemed a certainty. In the polls, he led by double digits up to the very end. In the courts today, he is rated as a long shot.

What the hell happened?

The election was a virtual tie. At it stands now, Franken has a 225-vote lead and the state is shy one senator. If he “wins,” this surreal saga will bring to life his book-length parody, Why Not Me? (1999). To some it will recall his Stuart Smalley sketch of being “good enough, doggone it!”

Think of it: Reality mocks comedy.

When the smoke clears, mirrors put away, the chunky, snarly, obviously unqualified onetime pornographer (for Playboy), a delinquent taxpayer in several states, not paying even workers’ comp premiums for his talk radio employees in New York will have assembled enough votes to “win” — again, if he did.

Get-out-to-vote was all the rage. Minnesota’s goofy same-day registration law kicked in. State election officials swear by this law as “enfranchising.” They are myopically naïve not to see the law serves fraud. No telling how many, at this stage if ever, illegals’ voted. Local election judges, running tainted ballots twice for Franken, helped juice up the total. Shhh. The recount might have been a Potemkin Village, but election day hijinx remains problematical.

Anyone at all can vote in Minnesota, short of plucking names off grave markers. Legitimacy does not count. Election officials choose to trust, but not to verify. Mischief happens in razor-thin elections such as this one in my native state.

Post-election maneuvering nailed down Franken’s perhaps faux “victory.” Coleman’s lawyers were far too kind, practicing “Minnesota Nice.” They faced a pack of snarling partisan tigers out for blood. Truth did not matter. The aim was to “take down Coleman” by any and all means.

Some of Al’s team were imported from Washington state where they had done late deeds before, for the supposed winner there, Gov Christine Gregorie (D-Wash.), in 2004. They “found” enough votes, mainly in King County, to put the former state attorney general in office. What’s not to work in Minnesota? Coleman’s toothless legal team was clearly outlawyerd by crafty outsiders.

They were aided by a wobbly state canvassing board and local courts which bowed to Franken’s demands. It was uncanny. Secretary of State Mark Ritchie, a Democrat Party and ACRORN activist, was chairman of that board. Secretary Ritchie had the audacity — but not the legal authority — to ask all 87 counties to check again (would they please?) for presumed “mistakenly rejected” ballots to count. No uniform standards, each county was on its own. (It was Florida 2000 all over again.)
Selective searching for votes in Democrat-rich counties, sans standards, is inherently unfair, of course. Just as it was when the United States Supreme Court finally ruled in Bush v. Gore (2000) by 7-2, not 5-4. (Thank heavens Miami-Dade stopped the counting nonsense, spawned by the outrageously partisan Florida Supreme Court.)

So, too, in Democrat-rich Minnesota counties, including the one-party Mesabi Iron Range, and in urban areas, trolling for Franken votes went deep. Franken’s people even phoned voters, from lists supplied by friendly counties, seeking to get their intent on rejected ballots. Call this real chutzpah.

It was farcical, if not so tragic, that votes appeared out of the ether, nearly all for Franken — 100 here, another 39 there. It all adds up. At the end, the 725 Coleman margin was breached. The number coming in for Franken was all out of proportion to those coming in for Coleman and the third man in the race, Dean Barkley.

Statistically, it made no sense. Still doesn’t, when you do the math.

Votes for Franken seemed weighted “heavier,” it seems, than for Coleman. “Equal protection” is a thing of the past, although key in Bush v. Gore. In this blue state, Obama got 300,000 more votes than Franken, however, proving a certain alertness to realities among some above-average bears in the Gopher state.

Naturally, the “D” rich counties, same as in Florida in 2000, were tapped for “new” votes for the “recount.” One recalls Gore’s slick attorney David Bois casting about for more “votes” only in four Democrat -rich precincts in Florida, and no where else, such as in the western panhandle, and calling it fair.

If Franken gets the nod, this election will live on in infamy. Loony tunes will have prevailed. One could laugh, or cry, about the result. Maybe both. In any event, its will seem a nightmare sketch from SNL and Franken will laugh all the way to Washington, D.C.

This election from hell turned on one of the nastiest campaigns in state history. The potty-mouth comic employed blatantly false TV spots and print ads besmirching his foe’s reputation, fabricating his record. Vile name calling actually worked. Big-headed Franken said Coleman was a Bush lapdog, a pushover for Big Oil, a sell-out of his Senate votes, and “the fourth most corrupt senator in Congress.” (The latter smear was a non-fact gleaned from Franken ally’s nutty “survey.”) The scummy excrement Franken used to blast Coleman was apparently enough to pass muster with uninformed, gullible, juvenile, celebrity-struck loony tunes of Minnesota — 1.2 million of them! Dumbness carries with it the lack of critical facilities.

It is no surprise, either, that Coleman’s defamation suit against Franken late in the campaign was swept off the table by a see-no, hear-no, speak-no-evil minor court. Just another ruling for the Democrat on the road to dubious, always-to-be-tainted “victory.” Someone ought to write a book!

Whether the 1.2 million voters know it, or care, they’ve besmirched Minnesota’s reputation of sending thoughtful, sensible, skillful politicians to the U.S. Senate — such as Hubert Humphrey, Walter Mondale, David Durenburger and Rudy Boschwitz– with the notable exception lately of the forgettable Mark Dayton, but he’s another wacky story.

Will the legal Franken voters, later recognizing their error in judgment, be ashamed? The short answer is no. Partisan hubris will set in. (Besides, guilt is easily pardoned when "winning is everything.") Rules, who needs ’em? And what did Stalin say about the ballot boxes? Who controls them, wins. Case in point: Minnesota Senatorial Election, 2008
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Smells suspiciously familiar to what we have going on in my district, as we speak.
 
Sheriff Joe said:
Antarctic Sea Ice Has Not Shrunk In 100 Years
Antarctic sea ice had barely changed from where it was 100 years ago, scientists have discovered, after pouring over the logbooks of great polar explorers such as Robert Falcon Scott and Ernest Shackleton. Experts were concerned that ice at the South Pole had declined significantly since the 1950s, which they feared was driven by man-made climate change. But new analysis suggests that conditions are now virtually identical to when the Terra Nova and Endurance sailed to the continent in the early 1900s, indicating that declines are part of a natural cycle and not the result of global warming. –Sarah Knapton, The Daily Telegraph, 24 November 2016
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Since E took the last one guess its my turn. First, lame-O climate thread that this may be, its still consider de rigueur to link the real article and not the newsfeed. Plus that way it looks like you actually bothered to read it. I know its frightfully dull, but its actually from a real journal and its a freebie and here's the link.

http://www.the-cryosphere.net/10/2721/2016/tc-10-2721-2016.pdf

So, I know this is off topic and an imposition-but-your fashion breakdowns on Michelle were not to be missed. Can we look forward to a shoes up analysis of Melania anytime soon? With that Brannon guy running around saying he thinks he's Thomas Cromwell to Henry VIII I don't blame her for staying away. Chop chop.
 
Evidence that the ice sheets in the Antarctic are not disappearing as fast as predicted in the last IPCC report is not exactly news at this point. The Antarctic behaves very differently from the open sea ice of the Arctic, and effort has been put into figuring out why. The Cryo paper is an interesting historical contribution. It would be quite something to get to go into the Royal Society reading room and peruse the actual log from the Discovery. Recent findings indicate that in the Antarctic, the outer ice is older and rougher, with the new ice located more internally. That’s different from the Arctic where the younger sea ice is located on the periphery. In the Antarctic it also appears that wind patterns and currents cluster the ice band around the continent, basically acting like one of those sleeves you can pull out of the freezer to keep drinks cool. So the model is it's a homeostatic mechanism to insulate the land ice sheets. And that’s a good thing. The bad thing is that it means that the component of sea level rise that IPCC attributed to melting in the Antarctic must be coming from somewhere else. Either thermal expansion of the oceans predominates more than has been attributed, or something else (the Greenland ice sheet comes to mind) is melting faster than expected. Anyway, that's the view from false premise land.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0034425716301481
 
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