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Exactly, why deniers spend so much energy railing against the possibility of AGW/ACC is a total mystery. Their politics have hijacked their ability to reason...
No such thing as deniers.
 
Hmmmm.......Deniers or skeptics?

Call it what you want, the real question is why be either? Other than a false impression that AGW is a left wing conspiracy, what do you gain by being a skeptic? Skepticism is politically motivated, not science driven.
 
Call it what you want, the real question is why be either? Other than a false impression that AGW is a left wing conspiracy, what do you gain by being a skeptic? Skepticism is politically motivated, not science driven.

Skepticism is a healthy personality quality. However, the word has been hijacked and redefined for political purposes, kind of like what happened to "conservative".
 
Call it what you want, the real question is why be either?
Go 90 days without the use of any fossil fuels or petroleum products and let us know what the difference is. Donʻt let your politically driven science hijack your ability to reason Wezdumb.
 
Call it what you want, the real question is why be either? Other than a false impression that AGW is a left wing conspiracy, what do you gain by being a skeptic? Skepticism is politically motivated, not science driven.
Alarmism is politically motivated, not science driven. See Al Gore.
 
I bet I don't give a flying rats ass....
Try talking about the content of the publication instead of trolling the site for my post, MAgoo.

There are several jokes available there, and I'll give you one clue. Why did you post a reference to Dr. John Christy in a discussion of climate denial?
 
There are several jokes available there, and I'll give you one clue. Why did you post a reference to Dr. John Christy in a discussion of climate denial?


Tuesday, May 10, 2011

In an article titled, "Analysing the ‘900 papers supporting climate scepticism’: 9 out of top 10 authors linked to ExxonMobil" from the environmental activist website The Carbon Brief, former Greenpeace "researcher" Christian Hunt failed to do basic research. He made no attempt to contact the scientists he unjustly attacked and instead used biased and corrupt websites like DeSmogBlog to smear them as "linked to" [funded by] ExxonMobil.

To get to the truth, I emailed the scientists mentioned in the article the following questions;

1. Have you ever received direct funding from ExxonMobil?

2. Do funding sources have any influence over your scientific work?

3. Has your scientific position regarding climate change ever changed due to a funding source?

4. Please include any additional comment on the article,


Their responses follow,




John R. Christy, B.A. Mathematics Summa Cum Laude, California State University (1973); M.S. Atmospheric Science, University of Illinois (1984); Ph.D. Atmospheric Science, University of Illinois (1987); Science Master, Baptist High School, Nyeri, Kenya (1973-1975); Departmental Fellow, University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign (1983); Senior Research Associate and Instructor, University of Alabama in Huntsville (1987-1989); Research Scientist, University of Alabama in Huntsville (1989-1991); Alabama Assistant State Climatologist (1989-1991); NASA Exceptional Scientific Achievement Medal (1991); NASA Technical Innovation Award, Marshall Space Flight Center; Assistant Professor of Atmospheric Science, University of Alabama in Huntsville (1991-1995); Associate Professor of Atmospheric Science, University of Alabama in Huntsville (1995-1999); Expert Contributor, Climate Observations, National Academy of Sciences (1995); American Meteorological Society Special Award (1996); Expert Contributor, Satellite Observations for Climate National Research Council (1997); Member, Committee on Earth Studies, Space Studies Board (1998-2001); Professor of Atmospheric Science, University of Alabama in Huntsville (1999-Present); Director, Earth System Science Center, University of Alabama in Huntsville (1991-Present); Alabama State Climatologist (2000-Present); Fellow, American Meteorological Society (2002); Expert Contributor, Statement on Climate Change, American Geophysical Union (2003); Distinguished Alumnus, Science and Mathematics, California State University, Fresno (2007); Distinguished Professor, University of Alabama in Huntsville (2008); Member, American Geophysical Union (AGU); Contributor, IPCC (1992, 1994, 1995, 2007); Expert Reviewer, IPCC (2013); Lead Author, IPCC (2001)

1. Have you ever received direct funding from ExxonMobil?
Christy: "No.
2. Do funding sources have any influence over your scientific work?
Christy: "I don't believe so."
3. Has your scientific position regarding climate change ever changed due to a funding source?
Christy: "No."
4. Please include any additional comment on the article,
Christy: "The connection between industrial interests and me is given by describing me as a "Marshall Institute expert". I spoke at a luncheon sponsored by the Marshall Institute, free of charge, to about 30 people. My remarks were incorporated into a booklet. That is the extent of my connection - hardly evidence to accuse one of being an industry spokesman."
 
[QUOTE="where would we be without any AGW?
I know its a guess.

Attached is from here. Freebie

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/jgrd.50239/full

CMIP3 and CMIP5 go head to head on projections +/- anthropogenic forcing. Without it we'd be continuing to slide down a cooling trend towards the end of the current interglacial period. Here's the relevant figure. Cut out the legend but its pretty obvious.

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How do you figure?
Look at the last 400,000 years on the graph I referenced.
We are obviously on an upswing.
The symmetry is remarkable.
 
Near the end of your suggested article --

This following image shows the last 800,000 years of temperature and forcing levels. Essentially, we have largely departed the climate forcing from the natural cycle.

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Look at the absolutely remarkable consistency of the graph.
Its like an EKG of the earth's climactic heart beat.
Can you follow the bouncing ball?
 
[QUOTE="where would we be without any AGW?
I know its a guess.

Attached is from here. Freebie

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/jgrd.50239/full

CMIP3 and CMIP5 go head to head on projections +/- anthropogenic forcing. Without it we'd be continuing to slide down a cooling trend towards the end of the current interglacial period. Here's the relevant figure. Cut out the legend but its pretty obvious.

View attachment 172[/QUOTE]
I see mostly man made presumptions here.
The climate history is clear.
 
Yes I read all that, but it doesn't answer the question. Why did you select Dr. John Christy?
I didn't write the article espola. You are aware of that, right?
It was not my call who to select.
I came across the article and posted it.
Geezzusss...
 
I didn't write the article espola. You are aware of that, right?
It was not my call who to select.
I came across the article and posted it.
Geezzusss...

You started with "Hmmmm.......Deniers or skeptics?" followed by the link to the article.

What in that article about Dr. Christy was germane to your question?
 
You started with "Hmmmm.......Deniers or skeptics?" followed by the link to the article.

What in that article about Dr. Christy was germane to your question?


In an article titled, "Analysing the ‘900 papers supporting climate scepticism’: 9 out of top 10 authors linked to ExxonMobil" from the environmental activist website The Carbon Brief, former Greenpeace "researcher" Christian Hunt failed to do basic research. He made no attempt to contact the scientists he unjustly attacked and instead used biased and corrupt websites like DeSmogBlog to smear them as "linked to" [funded by] ExxonMobil.

To get to the truth, I emailed the scientists mentioned in the article the following questions;
 
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