Climate and Weather

Hüsker Dü said:
Pittsburgh's (that Hillary won by 16 points) mayor said today that he and other mayors are organizing to follow through on carbon reduction goals.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/01/politics/pittsburgh-mayor-donald-trump/index.html
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We will continue to lead the world in co2 cuts, in cleaning the environment, recycling and not give away billions to India & China.
This agreement would have cost us far more for electricity & gas.
We continue to clean the air & develop technology & India & China don't have to worry about it until 2030?
Have you seen the national debt lately?
Click on it. Go ahead....
http://www.usdebtclock.org/
 
Lion Eyes said:
We will continue to lead the world in co2 cuts, in cleaning the environment, recycling and not give away billions to India & China.
This agreement would have cost us far more for electricity & gas.
We continue to clean the air & develop technology & India & China don't have to worry about it until 2030?
Have you seen the national debt lately?
Click on it. Go ahead....
http://www.usdebtclock.org/
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. . . and? How do you believe the US opting out from the rest of the world will help? So, from your post it appears you are you of those that feels aggrieved, put upon, taken advantage of by the rest of the world and just the thought of "Paris" makes you sneer in disgust and fall back on provincial feelings.
 
Hüsker Dü said:
. . . and? How do you believe the US opting out from the rest of the world will help? So, from your post it appears you are you of those that feels aggrieved, put upon, taken advantage of by the rest of the world and just the thought of "Paris" makes you sneer in disgust and fall back on provincial feelings.
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Rat,
It was a non binding unenforceable agreement.
The rest of the world wanted us to pay for this "accord".
The rest is just a ramble Daff..what a surprise?
Aggrieved...??? Palleeeezzze
 
I guess we will vote on it in 4 years.

WASHINGTON — President Trump announced Thursday that he will withdraw the United States from participation in the Paris climate accord, weakening global efforts to combat climate change and siding with conservatives who argued that the landmark 2015 agreement was harming the economy.

But he will stick to the withdrawal process laid out in the Paris agreement, which President Barack Obama joined and most of the world has already ratified. That could take nearly four years to complete, meaning a final decision would be up to the American voters in the next presidential election.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/01/climate/trump-paris-climate-agreement.html?mcubz=2&_r=0
 
Lion Eyes said:
Rat,
It was a non binding unenforceable agreement.
The rest of the world wanted us to pay for this "accord".
The rest is just a ramble Daff..what a surprise?
Aggrieved...??? Palleeeezzze
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You do feel aggrieved, put upon, taken advantage of by the rest of the world, oh poor, poor pitiful US . . . we are now, at least during these asterisk years, a second rate nation that has gone into self-preservation mode.
 
Hüsker Dü said:
You do feel aggrieved, put upon, taken advantage of by the rest of the world, oh poor, poor pitiful US . . . we are now, at least during these asterisk years, a second rate nation that has gone into self-preservation mode.
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That's your psyco projection.....tsk..tsk...tsk...
Ratso, it's me, the grateful one, the blessed one. I'm your Huckleberry Daffy...
I apologized and offered to pay up any bet I lost. ( The Obama reference?)
Name the time, place, terms...what is it you need Rat Patrol? I digress....

The best thing I heard today had to be the governors and mayors who said they didn't need no stinkin' accord.
They would go ahead and continue to meet standards for clean air and a better environment.
What a great outlook...who needs the federal government to mandate such things.
Think of all the ransom money we won't have to pay to foreign governments.
Did you look at the debt clock? You should...
 
Lion Eyes said:
That's your psyco projection.....tsk..tsk...tsk...
Ratso, it's me, the grateful one, the blessed one. I'm your Huckleberry Daffy...
I apologized and offered to pay up any bet I lost. ( The Obama reference?)
Name the time, place, terms...what is it you need Rat Patrol? I digress....

The best thing I heard today had to be the governors and mayors who said they didn't need no stinkin' accord.
They would go ahead and continue to meet standards for clean air and a better environment.
What a great outlook...who needs the federal government to mandate such things.
Think of all the ransom money we won't have to pay to foreign governments.
Did you look at the debt clock? You should...
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I thought that during Republican admins (is Trump really considered a Republican? I mean by real Republicans not carpet baggers) debts, deficits, crimes and misdemeanors didn't mean a thing?
 
Hüsker Dü said:
I thought that during Republican admins (is Trump really considered a Republican? I mean by real Republicans not carpet baggers) debts, deficits, crimes and misdemeanors didn't mean a thing?
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Well there you go again....thinking.
When BHO left office the debt was over 19 trillion dollars.
As espola like to point out, he'll be dead when all this comes crashing down on our children.
A little perspective from March 2012

(CBS News) The National Debt has now increased more during President Obama's three years and two months in office than it did during 8 years of the George W. Bush presidency.

The Debt rose $4.899 trillion during the two terms of the Bush presidency. It has now gone up $4.939 trillion since President Obama took office.

The latest posting from the Bureau of Public Debt at the Treasury Department shows the National Debt now stands at $15.566 trillion. It was $10.626 trillion on President Bush's last day in office, which coincided with President Obama's first day.
 
Lion Eyes said:
Well there you go again....thinking.
When BHO left office the debt was over 19 trillion dollars.
As espola like to point out, he'll be dead when all this comes crashing down on our children.
A little perspective from March 2012

(CBS News) The National Debt has now increased more during President Obama's three years and two months in office than it did during 8 years of the George W. Bush presidency.

The Debt rose $4.899 trillion during the two terms of the Bush presidency. It has now gone up $4.939 trillion since President Obama took office.

The latest posting from the Bureau of Public Debt at the Treasury Department shows the National Debt now stands at $15.566 trillion. It was $10.626 trillion on President Bush's last day in office, which coincided with President Obama's first day.
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Gee, I wonder if history could give us any clue as to why? Just like the Southern Strategy, you and yours just never can seem to get your mind around the reality surrounding the idea, in this case "recovery".
 
Lion Eyes said:
Well there you go again....thinking.
When BHO left office the debt was over 19 trillion dollars.
As espola like to point out, he'll be dead when all this comes crashing down on our children.
A little perspective from March 2012

(CBS News) The National Debt has now increased more during President Obama's three years and two months in office than it did during 8 years of the George W. Bush presidency.

The Debt rose $4.899 trillion during the two terms of the Bush presidency. It has now gone up $4.939 trillion since President Obama took office.

The latest posting from the Bureau of Public Debt at the Treasury Department shows the National Debt now stands at $15.566 trillion. It was $10.626 trillion on President Bush's last day in office, which coincided with President Obama's first day.
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Fun with numbers, may want to re-check on a percentage basis. Regardless, both parties are horribly addicted to debt and it won't end pretty.
 
Lion Eyes said:
Well there you go again....thinking.
When BHO left office the debt was over 19 trillion dollars.
As espola like to point out, he'll be dead when all this comes crashing down on our children.
A little perspective from March 2012

(CBS News) The National Debt has now increased more during President Obama's three years and two months in office than it did during 8 years of the George W. Bush presidency.

The Debt rose $4.899 trillion during the two terms of the Bush presidency. It has now gone up $4.939 trillion since President Obama took office.

The latest posting from the Bureau of Public Debt at the Treasury Department shows the National Debt now stands at $15.566 trillion. It was $10.626 trillion on President Bush's last day in office, which coincided with President Obama's first day.
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. . . and where is it now? . . . and will it get any better due to pulling away from the world? . . . and what will that cost us?
 
Hüsker Dü said:
Gee, I wonder if history could give us any clue as to why? Just like the Southern Strategy, you and yours just never can seem to get your mind around the reality surrounding the idea, in this case "recovery".
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Hey jackass, I don't subscribe to a "southern strategy", don't try to push that on me or mine.
You and yours live in OB....you're a Democrat, so I should assign responsibility for the KKK on you & YOURS?\
That would be asinine.
Grow up ....
 
Lion Eyes said:
Hey jackass, I don't subscribe to a "southern strategy", don't try to push that on me or mine.
You and yours live in OB....you're a Democrat, so I should assign responsibility for the KKK on you & YOURS?\
That would be asinine.
Grow up ....
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You have no idea what "Southern Strategy" is.
 
Lion Eyes said:
That's your psyco projection.....tsk..tsk...tsk...
Ratso, it's me, the grateful one, the blessed one. I'm your Huckleberry Daffy...
I apologized and offered to pay up any bet I lost. ( The Obama reference?)
Name the time, place, terms...what is it you need Rat Patrol? I digress....

The best thing I heard today had to be the governors and mayors who said they didn't need no stinkin' accord.
They would go ahead and continue to meet standards for clean air and a better environment.
What a great outlook...who needs the federal government to mandate such things.
Think of all the ransom money we won't have to pay to foreign governments.
Did you look at the debt clock? You should...
Click to expand...
Centralized climate policy has never worked.
 
Lion Eyes said:
Well there you go again....thinking.
When BHO left office the debt was over 19 trillion dollars.
As espola like to point out, he'll be dead when all this comes crashing down on our children.
A little perspective from March 2012

(CBS News) The National Debt has now increased more during President Obama's three years and two months in office than it did during 8 years of the George W. Bush presidency.

The Debt rose $4.899 trillion during the two terms of the Bush presidency. It has now gone up $4.939 trillion since President Obama took office.

The latest posting from the Bureau of Public Debt at the Treasury Department shows the National Debt now stands at $15.566 trillion. It was $10.626 trillion on President Bush's last day in office, which coincided with President Obama's first day.
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Obama's terms were subsidized by 5 straight years of Quantitative Easing.
 
Lion Eyes said:
Hey jackass, I don't subscribe to a "southern strategy", don't try to push that on me or mine.
You and yours live in OB....you're a Democrat, so I should assign responsibility for the KKK on you & YOURS?\
That would be asinine.
Grow up ....
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See, you proved my point and beyond . . . I'll add that to things you don't understand . . . but what about the recovery? Or were you once again trying to throw out a spike strip and derail the conversation at the point where you can't defend your assertion?
 
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