Blues 06 - For those that want to talk about it
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MakeAPlay
DA
Surf is more than a brand. They get players ready for the next level.
ESPNANALYST
SILVER ELITE
....in your past experience based on a previously held model which no longer exists.
To be frank iron sharpens iron- when you have a group of elite girls all together things click. They make one another better and the Coaches (who are good) can actually do their jobs.
CC isn't there any longer MAP
MakeAPlay
DA
If you say so. My daughter's coach sure thinks that they are. They have two commits from Surf right now and they are top 10 players in the country. She has played with both of them at YNT camps and in club and she thinks that they are awesome and are going to fit right in with her college team. There is only two other players in the whole county that they are looking at and they both also play for Surf.....
ESPNANALYST
SILVER ELITE
Love you but again this hypothesis doesn't work yet because their chokehold on ECNL still exists until Aug. They controlled more square mileage of talent than in any other geographic area and now they do not. 2019 will be the year to watch in my opinion as to who really has the proof!
By that time your beauty will be bored with all of us and continuing to kick ass. You get to watch and laugh at all of this mess
MakeAPlay
DA
We will see how it shakes out. My player is a year removed from club soccer and things are changing.
MakeAPlay
DA
I agree that we will know by 2019. As always good luck to your young lady. Keep her eyes on the prize and it will all work out for her.
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Sped
Guest
Your story's great, except it ignores that kids leave non-ECNL clubs for Surf even at the U9 and U10 ages for reasons that have nothing to do with ECNL.
I don't think anyone is confusing Surf SD and Anaheim Surf in this regard.
CopaMundial
SILVER ELITE
That is the most simple of thinking. Having a DD that is older and plays ECNL and a younger DD that travels north, I will say that the DA additions are not an overnight change as some of the clubs might think. I don't know of any quality players bouncing just yet. Remember, all ECNL players are bound till May 1 and cannot try out or speak to other clubs. That being said, there are many reasons for taking kids to various clubs. Yes, the landscape has changed, but not overnight? DA addition will take time, don't get over excited too soon. New DA clubs are holding tryouts when all the top ECNL players are prohibited from participating. Even so, I've not heard of a single ECNL player thinking about any of this. They have more important things happening right now, like their possible last year of HS soccer (should they decide to play GA), preparing for the next half of ECNL season, injury recovery and grades. So?
And no matter how you look at it, every club has a culture. Find the right team, right coach and culture, regardless of titles. And then, relax and watch your kids play. Worry about their health, not their trophies. It's a marathon, not a sprint. FYI, from Cbad to the OC is between 30-45 mins, depending on south or north.
ESPNANALYST
SILVER ELITE
People who buy into the 7-10 year old super team concept are a special bunch but that's a whole other thread. People who pay 2k for a B or C team at Surf for a 7-10 year old again special bunch different thread.
And yes @norwegian you are correct it taints a brand but again arrogance of either a homer parent or Surf Coach overrides common sense.
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Sped
Guest
That's all fine, but it still doesn't explain why the flow goes one way and not the other.
Lightning Red
GOLD
Sorry Sped. There aren't any of MD's 04's leaving. In fact, it's quite the contrary. Check out both teams 04 kick arounds and let me know what you see.
ESPNANALYST
SILVER ELITE
I cannot answer this post without sharing what I know so best to just watch the bomb go off in May. All the best
ESPNANALYST
SILVER ELITE
Amen. He has no idea. Albion had no problem either ....
bababooey
GOLD
Copa: I agree 100% with your last paragraph. That said, your first paragraph is not 100% accurate (at least for the 03 ECNL players). You state that all ECNL players are bound till May 1 and cannot try out or speak to other clubs. I can tell you I personally witnessed at least five current 03 ECNL players at the Pateadores DA tryouts. The cannot try out part applies only to ECNL to ECNL clubs, but some of the DA clubs do not have ECNL status and thus are not tied to this draconian rule. As for the speak to other clubs, that is also inaccurate. I know of three different players who are current ECNL players and each of them have been offered spots on DA I teams (and I am sure many others too). I doubt there are DA I offers in writing to the current ECNL players, but if you think that the 03 and 04 DA I coaches have not been making phone calls to their "wish list" players, I respectfully disagree.
You may be spot on with your assertion about players not even thinking about any of this, but I can guarantee parents are thinking about this long and hard.
Please understand I am not trying to call you out. I am just trying to shed some light on the 03 and 04 DA teams.
Lightning Red
GOLD
There are "3" DA teams in SD. The keeper we select will be just fine. Plenty of excellent players out there. The same question could have been asked about this team's keeper last year. I think it worked out pretty well.
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Sped
Guest
A softball player plucked out of rec is your keeper, yes? With DA evening the playing field, why is the club only looking to snag Surf's B team keeper?
And how about my prior inquiry? How much better would your team and the 2005's be with the several girls who started at Cbad but bailed at the U-littles? Did you ever ask Duggan why wasn't able to hold on to all those girls? Or why even the club's own coaches and directors have/had girls playing for Surf instead of Carlsbad? That's gotta be a hard one to explain.
Look, I've got kids at Carlsbad. They stay because soccer's not their first sport and because their friends are there. The club's fine. It's just not Blues or Surf.
Lightning Red
GOLD
First let me address the softball playing keeper. In one year this kid right now is one of the top 5 keepers in So Cal. She is an amazing athlete. She also happens to be one of the best softball players in the state if not the West. There isn't another kid around with the hands she possesses.
Second, it's none of my business as to why parents feel compelled to leave one club for another. Every situation has its own set of circumstances. I personally have a dd that plays at Surf as well. Both kids had different needs for development. What's right for one is not necessarily right for others. I've been one of the fortunate ones where things have worked out well for both of them. I've seen plenty of others try to leave because they believe the grass is greener. Many of these kids and parents have found out the very hard way that they should have stayed out. For those leaving a top flight team to go to another clubs second or third teams is an enigma to me. Most will find out that promotion from within is not the motto.
On the other hand let's look at the LAGSD 04 team. Almost all home grown and over half of the players were on the "B" team up until U11. That has to say something about development. Another thing is the bond that these kids have is truly special. They are great teammates but even better friends. They want to be with each other all of the time. They push each other not only to be better soccer players but better in everything they do. This doesn't come around too often. Because of this they all have a very deep love for the game and I would expect that to continue. They are all driven by the same thing and lean on each other to drive them and pick them up when things aren't working out.
The Surf and Blues club brands are very strong. No doubt about it. They just aren't right for everybody.
Finally, nobody is chasing any Surf keeper. When kids choose to show up for a practice or kickaround that's one thing. If those kids have what it takes to make the team that's great. If not, there are other options. LAGSD has one of the best if not the best Goals Against Avg in So Cal. That's not changing anytime soon.
As for my younger she has back to back State Cup titles to chase down this weekend!
Second, it's none of my business as to why parents feel compelled to leave one club for another. Every situation has its own set of circumstances. I personally have a dd that plays at Surf as well. Both kids had different needs for development. What's right for one is not necessarily right for others. I've been one of the fortunate ones where things have worked out well for both of them. I've seen plenty of others try to leave because they believe the grass is greener. Many of these kids and parents have found out the very hard way that they should have stayed out. For those leaving a top flight team to go to another clubs second or third teams is an enigma to me. Most will find out that promotion from within is not the motto.
On the other hand let's look at the LAGSD 04 team. Almost all home grown and over half of the players were on the "B" team up until U11. That has to say something about development. Another thing is the bond that these kids have is truly special. They are great teammates but even better friends. They want to be with each other all of the time. They push each other not only to be better soccer players but better in everything they do. This doesn't come around too often. Because of this they all have a very deep love for the game and I would expect that to continue. They are all driven by the same thing and lean on each other to drive them and pick them up when things aren't working out.
The Surf and Blues club brands are very strong. No doubt about it. They just aren't right for everybody.
Finally, nobody is chasing any Surf keeper. When kids choose to show up for a practice or kickaround that's one thing. If those kids have what it takes to make the team that's great. If not, there are other options. LAGSD has one of the best if not the best Goals Against Avg in So Cal. That's not changing anytime soon.
As for my younger she has back to back State Cup titles to chase down this weekend!
MakeAPlay
DA
First let me address the softball playing keeper. In one year this kid right now is one of the top 5 keepers in So Cal. She is an amazing athlete. She also happens to be one of the best softball players in the state if not the West. There isn't another kid around with the hands she possesses.
Second, it's none of my business as to why parents feel compelled to leave one club for another. Every situation has its own set of circumstances. I personally have a dd that plays at Surf as well. Both kids had different needs for development. What's right for one is not necessarily right for others. I've been one of the fortunate ones where things have worked out well for both of them. I've seen plenty of others try to leave because they believe the grass is greener. Many of these kids and parents have found out the very hard way that they should have stayed out. For those leaving a top flight team to go to another clubs second or third teams is an enigma to me. Most will find out that promotion from within is not the motto.
On the other hand let's look at the LAGSD 04 team. Almost all home grown and over half of the players were on the "B" team up until U11. That has to say something about development. Another thing is the bond that these kids have is truly special. They are great teammates but even better friends. They want to be with each other all of the time. They push each other not only to be better soccer players but better in everything they do. This doesn't come around too often. Because of this they all have a very deep love for the game and I would expect that to continue. They are all driven by the same thing and lean on each other to drive them and pick them up when things aren't working out.
The Surf and Blues club brands are very strong. No doubt about it. They just aren't right for everybody.
Finally, nobody is chasing any Surf keeper. When kids choose to show up for a practice or kickaround that's one thing. If those kids have what it takes to make the team that's great. If not, there are other options. LAGSD has one of the best if not the best Goals Against Avg in So Cal. That's not changing anytime soon.
As for my younger she has back to back State Cup titles to chase down this weekend!
If she is that good of a softball player she likely won't be playing soccer much longer. Travel softball is super expensive and time consuming. U14 is next year right?
Lightning Red
GOLD
Yes, and her first commitment is softball. She is that good. It's a shame because she is that good in soccer as well.