Everything wrong in this post. He’s not claiming to have discovered proof...he’s passing on the studies (since espola as usual doesn’t want to look up past posts on this thread). It’s not a miracle drug...your standard was do something and it seems to have a better record than remdesivir which was approved on less. As for the videos I’m not going to research for hours just to please espola...it’s a good summary and this guy isn’t a nutter...he does a good job of summarizing stuff, interviewing experts and btw he supported the mask mandates. Moreover that’s what he’s calling for: the agencies to take a good hard look at the data which they have refused to do so far despite the evidence that yeah this seems to work....that’s “something” they could do for the unvaccinated if you are so worried about saving them from their choices. Lastly this is like the 4th time you’ve ducked my other illness question. Congratulations. Think you just set a record for most things wrong in a dad4 post.
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Bruddah IZ
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Hüsker Dü
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The game of you made one mistake so all else is void is obvious and comes from a place of partisan inspired ignorance.
"one mistake".....funny.
Multi Sport
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So Predident Trump not wanting a cruise ship with passengers that have covid 19 symptoms to dock in California to prevent further spread is a bad thing.. well to you at least...
Multi Sport
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So you go with what the FDA says as the final word then?FDA still says no.
Why You Should Not Use Ivermectin to Treat or Prevent COVID-19
Using the Drug ivermectin to treat COVID-19 can be dangerous and even lethal. The FDA has not approved the drug for that purpose.www.fda.gov
What convinces you otherwise?
[Note: I took out the ad hominem parts and I am responding to what is left above]
Some of what Dr. Campbell posted is very informational about the mechanisms of new vaccines. As for the rest of it, I don't know why he is campaigning so hard for invermectin, since remdesvir has nearly the same results proven in bigger studies. Remdesvir was developed specifically to combat viruses and the mechanism of how it does that is well understood. The same is not true for invermectin -- its recognized use for internal parasites and head lice. (I'm not even sure why they tried it other than perhaps they had some available and were trying everything). Not only that, the FDA has recognized that using large doses is dangerous.
[Now for my ad hominem part -- Notwithstanding that we have thrashed this argument into powder several times now, I am certain you will bring it IP again since your whole schtick seems to be that of a contrarian)
Your lack of understanding is showing. The protocol for rd is much more severe than for iv. It costs more, must be administered in the hospital and as a result has been administered too late to do maximum good. If you are going to do rd, you are better off in any case using the antibody treatments (which are another something public health can do).
as to the ad contrarian thing, that’s hilarious coming from you...or should I just say coo coo.
Multi Sport
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But how can they track if the CDC says that people who have been fully vaccinated and come into contact with a covid positive person no longer need to get tested.
We already know that fully vaccinated people can and do transmit covid to others.
@Multi Sport
This was out in the fox news today. It does have a link about the concerns the CDC is starting to have for the kids.
www.foxnews.com
This was out in the fox news today. It does have a link about the concerns the CDC is starting to have for the kids.
Dr. Nicole Saphier: Let's pause COVID vaccination for our kids -- here's my take as a physician and mother
Without sufficient safety data and the parallel drop in MIS-C cases, I remain unconvinced on the utility of universal vaccination for COVID-19 in children right now.
www.foxnews.com
Bruddah IZ
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I need a class in biological dynamics systems to tell me that the adaptive immune system works better than a shot that is not a vaccine? I need a class in biological dynamics systems to tell me that "Masks reduce the probability of transmission. That’s all. They do not come close to eliminating transmission."?
@Multi Sport
This was out in the fox news today. It does have a link about the concerns the CDC is starting to have for the kids.
Dr. Nicole Saphier: Let's pause COVID vaccination for our kids -- here's my take as a physician and mother
Without sufficient safety data and the parallel drop in MIS-C cases, I remain unconvinced on the utility of universal vaccination for COVID-19 in children right now.
I disagree we should halt them, particularly in young adults...if the data review does show a problem slap a warning label on it (would also make it harder for school districts and colleges to mandate it as a result)....have parents make up their own minds.
Your lack of understanding is showing. The protocol for rd is much more severe than for iv. It costs more, must be administered in the hospital and as a result has been administered too late to do maximum good. If you are going to do rd, you are better off in any case using the antibody treatments (which are another something public health can do).
as to the ad contrarian thing, that’s hilarious coming from you...or should I just say coo coo.
Ivermectin has been shown to inhibit the replication of SARS-CoV-2 in cell cultures. However, pharmacokinetic and pharmacodynamic studies suggest that achieving the plasma concentrations necessary for the antiviral efficacy detected in vitro would require administration of doses up to 100-fold higher than those approved for use in humans.
Ivermectin | COVID-19 Treatment Guidelines
Review clinical data on the use of ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19.
www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov
Does my quoting that seem contrarian to you?
Ivermectin has been shown to inhibit the replication of SARS-CoV-2 in cell cultures. However, pharmacokinetic and pharmacodynamic studies suggest that achieving the plasma concentrations necessary for the antiviral efficacy detected in vitro would require administration of doses up to 100-fold higher than those approved for use in humans.
Ivermectin | COVID-19 Treatment Guidelines
Review clinical data on the use of ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19.www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov
Does my quoting that seem contrarian to you?
That's not what the actual patient treatment studies are showing and you are dragging a line out of context from an NIH post that basically concludes it should be looked at further. Haha.
And yes....yes it does.
Multi Sport
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Yes and no...
"..if the vaccine successfully induces an immune response, which some studies suggest may be more robust than natural exposure to the virus, then could the vaccine incite the inflammatory reaction resulting in MIS-C?
If so, would it be more frequent or severe if the immune response is greater? Couldn’t this place healthy children at risk of a severe outcome from the vaccine who had an extremely low likelihood of getting sick at all? "
Multi Sport
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Somehow, someway he will walk back his statements and start anew..
It's his MO.
Leads with the personal attack... and ends with the personal attack.Your lack of understanding is showing. The protocol for rd is much more severe than for iv. It costs more, must be administered in the hospital and as a result has been administered too late to do maximum good. If you are going to do rd, you are better off in any case using the antibody treatments (which are another something public health can do).
as to the ad contrarian thing, that’s hilarious coming from you...or should I just say coo coo.
Glad to see you know your strengths.
With respect to ivermectin having been shown to inhibit replication in cell cultures....Ivermectin has been shown to inhibit the replication of SARS-CoV-2 in cell cultures. However, pharmacokinetic and pharmacodynamic studies suggest that achieving the plasma concentrations necessary for the antiviral efficacy detected in vitro would require administration of doses up to 100-fold higher than those approved for use in humans.
Ivermectin | COVID-19 Treatment Guidelines
Review clinical data on the use of ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19.www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov
Does my quoting that seem contrarian to you?
www.xkcd.com/1217
1. I wasn’t the one that led with the personal attack in this exchange. I never start. I only finish
2. Funny coming from you considering the tear you’ve been on recently
Yeah, which is why you slap a warning label on it and have the parents decide for themselves. If we are going to argue the parents should make the in person/remote school decisions, or the sports/no sports decision, you got to trust them here too, after disclosing the relevant information.
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