Bad News Thread

Restrictions are falling left and right at this point.

Vegas casinos are back to 100%, and with no mask requirements. Huge sporting events, and even concerts, are coming back (Foreigner performed in Orlando last week, for example).

And yet, even though the scolds' predictions of "superspreader" effects failed to materialize from the Super Bowl, the college football national championship, or that packed Texas Rangers game we were all warned about, they're still predicting it, and they're still wrong.

A couple of examples, courtesy of Ian Miller.

Back on May 8 the Atlanta Braves had their first full stadium since all this started. Nobody was asked about vaccination status.

Sportswriter Peter King wrote on Twitter, above a picture of the event:

"570,615 deaths. Nothing to see there."

Since King is a mainstream sports journalist, he still -- still! -- thinks the Fauci "mitigation measures" actually do something, and defying them leads to mass death.

Well, two weeks later, here's the massive carnage caused by that event:
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Here's something else from two weeks ago: the Canelo Alvarez fight in Texas, a fight attended by over 73,000 people. No indoor boxing event in history has been attended by more people. Nobody checked vaccination status, and not many masks.

Let's check in on the devastation this event surely caused:

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The ongoing wickedness in Canada and Europe is predicated on pretending that these things aren't happening. They have to pretend that mass events haven't been going on in the U.S. without any discernible effect.

You'd think the populations of those countries would be demanding an explanation as to why they're still locked down, but, well, I guess they didn't value living as much as you and I do.

Despite the groupthink in entertainment, academia, and (most of) government, there's a clear momentum in favor of restoring normality.

But the long-term effects of what's been done to us are many, and severe.

Now that they've discovered how compliant and unquestioning the general public truly is, who knows what the politicos and what we laughingly call the "public health" establishment will get up to next.

Not to mention vaccine passports, the ongoing wreckage to the economy, inflation fears that this time even the Establishment is worried about, assaults on civil liberties, a school system based on propaganda, and plenty more.

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Bruddah IZ said:
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Here's something else from two weeks ago: the Canelo Alvarez fight in Texas, a fight attended by over 73,000 people. No indoor boxing event in history has been attended by more people. Nobody checked vaccination status, and not many masks.

Let's check in on the devastation this event surely caused:

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The ongoing wickedness in Canada and Europe is predicated on pretending that these things aren't happening. They have to pretend that mass events haven't been going on in the U.S. without any discernible effect.

You'd think the populations of those countries would be demanding an explanation as to why they're still locked down, but, well, I guess they didn't value living as much as you and I do.

Despite the groupthink in entertainment, academia, and (most of) government, there's a clear momentum in favor of restoring normality.

But the long-term effects of what's been done to us are many, and severe.

Now that they've discovered how compliant and unquestioning the general public truly is, who knows what the politicos and what we laughingly call the "public health" establishment will get up to next.

Not to mention vaccine passports, the ongoing wreckage to the economy, inflation fears that this time even the Establishment is worried about, assaults on civil liberties, a school system based on propaganda, and plenty more.

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Tom Woods
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You would think that by now they (the powers that be) would say OK, it is over. Go back to living life.
 
dad4 said:
You would understand the flu season masks better if you had more concern for vulnerable people outside your own household.
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Most of the vulnerable are vaccinated. Those that are not choose not to be vaccinated. Their choice right?

Further when months ago and longer when someone went to a restaurant they assumed the risk of going there. Presumably the ones who were worried didn't go. So again you have a situation where people made the choice to go and be with others who also made that choice. You seem to assume there was a large contingent at these places that were worried/scared to go...but went anyway.


You wanted to unreasonably shut it all down or pretend everything can be done outside.

And today? You are running around wearing a mask that does you no good, nor does it protect anyone else.

The pandemic is over. You can go out again. Ditch the useless mask. Hell even the CDC has finally come around and said vaccinated people don't need it inside or outside. Not sure why you continue.

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Desert Hound said:
Most of the vulnerable are vaccinated. Those that are not choose not to be vaccinated. Their choice right?

Further when months ago and longer when someone went to a restaurant they assumed the risk of going there. Presumably the ones who were worried didn't go. So again you have a situation where people made the choice to go and be with others who also made that choice. You seem to assume there was a large contingent at these places that were worried/scared to go...but went anyway.


You wanted to unreasonably shut it all down or pretend everything can be done outside.

And today? You are running around wearing a mask that does you no good, nor does it protect anyone else.

The pandemic is over. You can go out again. Ditch the useless mask. Hell even the CDC has finally come around and said vaccinated people don't need it inside or outside. Not sure why you continue.

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So, if the pandemic is over, why do we still have over ten thousand new cases and over one hundred deaths each day?

More to the point, the new India variant is much more transmissible. About 2.5 times as high. If that’s true, it pushes the herd immunity threshold from about 75% to about 90%. It also seems to have some ability to reinfect people who have some natural immunity. A 35% vax rate and a 60% infection rate are probably not sufficient to deal with that. Or, if you’re from my county, a 65% vax rate and a 30% infection rate aren’t quite enough, either. You need something else.

Masks would probably do it. Greater vax rates would definitely do it. Celebrating early will not do it.
 
dad4 said:
So, if the pandemic is over, why do we still have over ten thousand new cases and over one hundred deaths each day?
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You know at 100 deaths per day you are now in the range of the flu...and not even a bad flu season.

You and your variants. First it was the UK one. Then maybe the S. African one. Then you thought the CA variant was a problem. You had other doomsday scenarios I don't remember at this time as well.

Either way deaths are now in the range of average flu territory and still dropping.

Your need for a mask is non existent. As we watch more and more states, etc drop masks, and mask usage dropping daily, cases continue to fall.

You aren't saving anyone, nor protecting yourself wearing a mask.
 
Desert Hound said:
You know at 100 deaths per day you are now in the range of the flu...and not even a bad flu season.

You and your variants. First it was the UK one. Then maybe the S. African one. Then you thought the CA variant was a problem. You had other doomsday scenarios I don't remember at this time as well.

Either way deaths are now in the range of average flu territory and still dropping.

Your need for a mask is non existent. As we watch more and more states, etc drop masks, and mask usage dropping daily, cases continue to fall.

You aren't saving anyone, nor protecting yourself wearing a mask.
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He's prob right about the India variant given that it doesn't seem to be holding things back in Asia anymore (for whatever reason). Still, deaths are on the floor, which is what we should care about. Even the India variant doesn't change that. We can't protect against every infection. It's over (at least in the US).
 
Grace T. said:
He's prob right about the India variant given that it doesn't seem to be holding things back in Asia anymore (for whatever reason). Still, deaths are on the floor, which is what we should care about. Even the India variant doesn't change that. We can't protect against every infection. It's over (at least in the US).
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Cases in India are dropping rapidly now.
 
Desert Hound said:
Cases in India are dropping rapidly now.
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They started somewhere around 40% seroprevalence (as high as 50% in some cities). 40%- reinfection of some asymptomatics and mild cases + whatever they have now. They must be close to 65% in some cities. Given our experience that’s what you’d expect.
 
Grace T. said:
They started somewhere around 40% seroprevalence (as high as 50% in some cities). 40%- reinfection of some asymptomatics and mild cases + whatever they have now. They must be close to 65% in some cities. Given our experience that’s what you’d expect.
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Any word on how severe the reinfections are? You'd hope there is at least a lessening of severity, even if you still get sick.

Makes a big difference to us. Some states here, more than half of our immunity is from prior infections.
 
dad4 said:
Any word on how severe the reinfections are? You'd hope there is at least a lessening of severity, even if you still get sick.

Makes a big difference to us. Some states here, more than half of our immunity is from prior infections.
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Anecdotal since given the meltdown they aren’t tracking it well but reinfection are gen reported mild except among very old. The uk thinks it’s equivalent to 1 mRNA shot.
 
dad4 said:
Any word on how severe the reinfections are? You'd hope there is at least a lessening of severity, even if you still get sick.

Makes a big difference to us. Some states here, more than half of our immunity is from prior infections.
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Imagine that.
 
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