Bad News Thread

Grace T. said:
Fuck you Magoo and the idiot train you road here on. Now that the other troll who shall not be named is gone you are the worst
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He's the same dude Grace. He's just letting his true self be known to all of us. This is the real EOTL. Look how he writes now. I was keeping an eye in the back of my head today at the polo fields for him and a few others who hate me for asking a few questions about this and that. This guy is losing it big time. I wonder why?
 
Grace T. said:
There’s no reasonable chance of stopping mutations. We haven’t even been able to get rid of polio. You really think vaccine uptake is going to be 100% eventually in the mess that is Afghanistan? Japan and australia can’t even vaccinated their populations and Chile is relying on the China vaccine which is even more of a failure. Most of the worst won’t be vaccinated until 2022 and some parts of the world not even to 2023. Stop the mutations is a ridiculous pipe dream argument. And if we really cared about the world we’d be vaccinating the third world elderly before attempting to vaccinate our children.
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Actually, it would be difficult but not hard. It would be expensive but relatively cheap versus the trillions spent in the last 18 months. So we could certainly do it, but you are correct, we won't. Basically because we don't care.

Its a bit like climate change, and obviously I'm going on a complete tangent here. My prediction is that in 20 years or so, our children will hate us because we knew but did nothing, relatively speaking. In 40 years or so, our grandchildren will despise us. We won't be the greatest generation, we'll be the polar opposite. We have some difficult but doable choices. They will have no choice. Sad really, probably best not to dwell on it.
 
whatithink said:
Actually, it would be difficult but not hard. It would be expensive but relatively cheap versus the trillions spent in the last 18 months. So we could certainly do it, but you are correct, we won't. Basically because we don't care.

Its a bit like climate change, and obviously I'm going on a complete tangent here. My prediction is that in 20 years or so, our children will hate us because we knew but did nothing, relatively speaking. In 40 years or so, our grandchildren will despise us. We won't be the greatest generation, we'll be the polar opposite. We have some difficult but doable choices. They will have no choice. Sad really, probably best not to dwell on it.
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The kids are already pissed off dude and hate is next if the men are big whiners and scared all the time. Eat healthy and exercise and all will be ok, that's what i think :) I'm appalled at the wimps we have in this country. They are not only wimps, they cheat all the time and buy their way to the front of the line. I'm so proud of my dd btw. She wanted this internship really bad but she was beaten out I guess by more qualified students. Well, she has a very good friend who said his mom can get her the internship because she knows this person and that person and with a call, she can have what she desires. My dd said, "no thank you, I want to earn it myself." Now that is champion where I come from.
 
whatithink said:
Actually, it would be difficult but not hard. It would be expensive but relatively cheap versus the trillions spent in the last 18 months. So we could certainly do it, but you are correct, we won't. Basically because we don't care.

Its a bit like climate change, and obviously I'm going on a complete tangent here. My prediction is that in 20 years or so, our children will hate us because we knew but did nothing, relatively speaking. In 40 years or so, our grandchildren will despise us. We won't be the greatest generation, we'll be the polar opposite. We have some difficult but doable choices. They will have no choice. Sad really, probably best not to dwell on it.
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The problem isn’t money but capacity. It’s especially true since most govts don’t want az or j&j and moderna hasn’t done worldwide trials. They want the Pfizer. Pfizer has been a beast in all this and I’m surprised they’ve managed to beat all production and testing expectations (well some of my pharma friends aren’t so shocked…their culture rivals that of the most craziest win obsessed flight 1 teams).

As for climate change you have the same problem: no good solutions. Dismantling China and relegating India to perpetual poverty. Population controls that even the Chinese have had to eliminate and create societal collapse. No airline vacations, vastly reduced meat, limited hot showers and air con for the first world. Oh and btw kill most of the dogs which are a real drain on the environment…they are a dead weight drag producing nothing of real value except on the occasional farm or police service. Kids will hate you either way.
 
Ellejustus said:
He's the same dude Grace. He's just letting his true self be known to all of us. This is the real EOTL. Look how he writes now. I was keeping an eye in the back of my head today at the polo fields for him and a few others who hate me for asking a few questions about this and that. This guy is losing it big time. I wonder why?
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Disagree. Eotl was a master troll. Espola can’t even do that well. He’s pathetic.
 
Grace T. said:
The problem isn’t money but capacity. It’s especially true since most govts don’t want az or j&j and moderna hasn’t done worldwide trials. They want the Pfizer. Pfizer has been a beast in all this and I’m surprised they’ve managed to beat all production and testing expectations (well some of my pharma friends aren’t so shocked…their culture rivals that of the most craziest win obsessed flight 1 teams).

As for climate change you have the same problem: no good solutions. Dismantling China and relegating India to perpetual poverty. Population controls that even the Chinese have had to eliminate and create societal collapse. No airline vacations, vastly reduced meat, limited hot showers and air con for the first world. Oh and btw kill most of the dogs which are a real drain on the environment…they are a dead weight drag producing nothing of real value except on the occasional farm or police service. Kids will hate you either way.
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Nonsense.

And you know why.
 
Grace T. said:
The problem isn’t money but capacity. It’s especially true since most govts don’t want az or j&j and moderna hasn’t done worldwide trials. They want the Pfizer. Pfizer has been a beast in all this and I’m surprised they’ve managed to beat all production and testing expectations (well some of my pharma friends aren’t so shocked…their culture rivals that of the most craziest win obsessed flight 1 teams).

As for climate change you have the same problem: no good solutions. Dismantling China and relegating India to perpetual poverty. Population controls that even the Chinese have had to eliminate and create societal collapse. No airline vacations, vastly reduced meat, limited hot showers and air con for the first world. Oh and btw kill most of the dogs which are a real drain on the environment…they are a dead weight drag producing nothing of real value except on the occasional farm or police service. Kids will hate you either way.
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So, we each buy tons of plastic crap, eat lots of meat, and drive 10,000 miles a year because of China?

Not sure I follow your argument there.
 
CNN, Fox and her friends (in the media) are not showing what is going on around the world today. This went from, please allow us two weeks so we can flatten the curve, to wear a mask until we get the vax. No mask, no service, remember? Then they told all my pals that if they took the Johnson or other jabs now, then no mask would be needed and you would be immune to the Rona and also be entered to win $1,000,000 and other prizes. Now their saying wear mask, take two shots and boosters whenever we say to get boosters and no lotto tickets either. WTF is up with that? The fun is over folks. Not playing for prizes anymore. They mean serious business now. I swear I pose no danger to you who have already got the shots. I'm not sick at all and in the best shape of my life.
 
dad4 said:
So, we each buy tons of plastic crap, eat lots of meat, and drive 10,000 miles a year because of China?

Not sure I follow your argument there.
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China is responsible for 27% of all emissions and has gotten rich selling us the tons of plastic crap. They also want and think they deserve to eat the tons of meat and have the fancy visits to Paris too. You gonna tell them they can’t have that?

What of the Indians. Have been there 2x and the poverty in some places is horrifying. You wanna tell them they can’t have the good life?

Any solution which ignores China and India (as well as the us plane travel, meat consumption and dogs) is just feel good nonsense (kind of like your mask fantasy). We can solve global warming but it would be painful.
 
Grace T. said:
China is responsible for 27% of all emissions and has gotten rich selling us the tons of plastic crap. They also want and think they deserve to eat the tons of meat and have the fancy visits to Paris too. You gonna tell them they can’t have that?

What of the Indians. Have been there 2x and the poverty in some places is horrifying. You wanna tell them they can’t have the good life?

Any solution which ignores China and India (as well as the us plane travel, meat consumption and dogs) is just feel good nonsense (kind of like your mask fantasy). We can solve global warming but it would be painful.
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The biggest problem btw is that there are too many people on the planet. The problem is when a country goes into population decline all sorts of nasty things start happening. The Chinese have gone from a 1 child policy to a 3 child policy and begging people to have kids

And you all are hypocrites too because you either had kids or are in the business of kids and in so doing committed the 1 act which is most responsible for destroying the planet: having kids
 
These are crazy times my fellow Americans. JB is not the original JB, we all know that by now. Dude was actually denying drinking the blood of kids the other day and wasn't even asked the question if he was actually drinking the blood of children to get high. Dr. F is not the same guy either, MOO! Watch this.....

 
Grace T. said:
China is responsible for 27% of all emissions and has gotten rich selling us the tons of plastic crap. They also want and think they deserve to eat the tons of meat and have the fancy visits to Paris too. You gonna tell them they can’t have that?

What of the Indians. Have been there 2x and the poverty in some places is horrifying. You wanna tell them they can’t have the good life?

Any solution which ignores China and India (as well as the us plane travel, meat consumption and dogs) is just feel good nonsense (kind of like your mask fantasy). We can solve global warming but it would be painful.
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If we are talking climate, we should start with a mirror.

China has 27% of emissions, spread over 1.4 billion people. Much of that is the plastic crap we ask them to make for us. Person for person, they are about average.

I agree China needs to cut back. But, in saying so, I am acting like a 500 pound man telling other people to diet.
 
Grace T. said:
The problem isn’t money but capacity. It’s especially true since most govts don’t want az or j&j and moderna hasn’t done worldwide trials. They want the Pfizer. Pfizer has been a beast in all this and I’m surprised they’ve managed to beat all production and testing expectations (well some of my pharma friends aren’t so shocked…their culture rivals that of the most craziest win obsessed flight 1 teams).

As for climate change you have the same problem: no good solutions. Dismantling China and relegating India to perpetual poverty. Population controls that even the Chinese have had to eliminate and create societal collapse. No airline vacations, vastly reduced meat, limited hot showers and air con for the first world. Oh and btw kill most of the dogs which are a real drain on the environment…they are a dead weight drag producing nothing of real value except on the occasional farm or police service. Kids will hate you either way.
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So yeah, difficult but not hard. If money isn't a problem, then capacity is a choice. Doable but we won't.

Climate change is the same. We have every excuse in the world as to why we can't, until we will have no choice but to do far worse, to ourselves, because we no longer have a choice. The poor (everywhere) will be the worse impacted. BTW, in a blue sky world, there is no need for any person on this planet to be without food or shelter or access to reasonable health care or education. Unfortunately we're in charge.
 
dad4 said:
If we are talking climate, we should start with a mirror.
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Let's jump to another topic real quick dad the teacher. I would love to get Professor Espola to chime in and also one of the great scientist in Grace to give an answer and of course Hound or K & S :)

Q. Is the Earth flat ((like a hockey puck)) or one big round ball in space?
 
dad4 said:
If we are talking climate, we should start with a mirror.

China has 27% of emissions, spread over 1.4 billion people. Much of that is the plastic crap we ask them to make for us. Person for person, they are about average.

I agree China needs to cut back. But, in saying so, I am acting like a 500 pound man telling other people to diet.
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I’ve never put much weight in the set the good example argument. Yeah we’d have to cut back. You start by not having kids (you have a kid…work on her to get tubes tied if you really feel this way). The other choices are painful too. And they’d be all for naught because the Chinese want to be us let alone go back to being poor. You committed the worst act possible for global warming so you aren’t setting the good example either…start by telling us your kid has entered a nunnery.
 
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