An amazing case for reducing gun ownership in America

Today the second amendment is the law of the land. Tomorrow congress could choose to change that.
This is the reason for my concern.

I would still like to know why you think the framers were compelled to include second amendment protections for our right to bear arms.
 
This is the reason for my concern.

I would still like to know why you think the framers were compelled to include second amendment protections for our right to bear arms.

Because Democracy was an unknown at the time... and they wanted to make it hard for a tyrant to take over would be my guess?

I don't disagree with their aim. However, you don't have to be clairvoyant that see that the locals are starting to get restless... which in a Democracy has real world implications. Sometimes it's simply better to bend instead of break.
 
Because Democracy was an unknown at the time... and they wanted to make it hard for a tyrant to take over would be my guess?

I don't disagree with their aim. However, you don't have to be clairvoyant that see that the locals are starting to get restless... which in a Democracy has real world implications. Sometimes it's simply better to bend instead of break.
Democracy was not unknown, and it was a matter of careful consideration and debate in the construction of our republic.
The founders also stated their own reasons for the second amendment before and after the constitution was ratified.
You seem to be guessing at things you should already know.

Its ironic that an uneducated guy like me would be pointing this out to you.

Anyhoo, enjoy the rest of the weekend, Im got yard work to do.
 
Today the second amendment is the law of the land. Tomorrow congress could choose to change that.
I only bring it up, because for the first time in my life I'm starting to wonder if the "pro gun" people are going to prove so obnoxious and ham fisted, that we might see a 2/3's majority in the Congress come together to re-write that Amendment.
And then Trump will sign it.
 
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Because Democracy was an unknown at the time...
and they wanted to make it hard for a
tyrant to take over would be my guess?
Tiny " T " ....your grasp on History is quite poor.....
You're another who should have studied....



I don't disagree with their aim.
However, you don't have to be clairvoyant that
see that the locals are starting to get restless...
which in a Democracy has real world implications.
Sometimes it's simply better to bend instead of break.
Who's going to be " Bending "....?


/QUOTE

" Because Democracy was an unknown at the time... "

The Greeks establish working Democracies long before
America.....Many such instances between then and the
start of the Democracy in America.
You really should do some research before regurgitating
malformed Liberal talking points....



 
I am all for hammer control.

FBI: More People Killed by Hammers, Clubs than with Rifles of Any Kind
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AWR HAWKINS11 Aug 20191,548
2:13
The most recent FBI crime stats show that more people were killed in 2017 with hammers and clubs than were killed with rifles of any kind.

Breitbart News reported the most recent numbers–those for 2017–on September 26, 2018. Those figures showed that 467 people were killed with “blunt objects (hammers, clubs, etc.),” while 403 were killed with rifles.

And it must be noted that the category of “rifles” used by the FBI includes bolt action, pump action, single shot, and semi-automatic, as well as those the left describes as “assault weapons.” This means only a percentage of the 403 deaths attributed to “rifles” would have been carried out with an “assault weapon.” So the gap between the number of persons beaten to death with hammers and clubs verses those killed with “assault weapons” would be even greater than the gap between those who died in a hammer/club attack versus those who died being shot with “rifles” of any kind.

Breitbart News also reported that the 2017 crime figures showed 1,591 people were killed with “knives or cutting instruments” while 403 were killed with “rifles.” This means nearly four times as many people were stabbed to death as were killed with any kind of rifle. (The gap between the number stabbed to death and the number of persons explicitly killed with an “assault weapon” would be even greater.)

Yet Democrats are pushing an “assault weapons” ban and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) says legislation for such a ban will be “front and center” when the Senate reconvenes.

AWR Hawkins is an award-winning Second Amendment columnist for Breitbart News and the writer/curator of Down Range with AWR Hawkins, a weekly newsletter focused on all things Second Amendment, also for Breitbart News. He is the political analyst for Armed American Radio. Follow him on Twitter: @AWRHawkins. Reach him directly at awrhawkins@breitbart.com. Sign up to get Down Range at breitbart.com/downrange.
 
I am all for hammer control.

FBI: More People Killed by Hammers, Clubs than with Rifles of Any Kind
3074b2_active-shooter-study-61288-2018-file-photo-shows-display-models-semi-automatic-640x427.jpg

AP Photo/Keith Srakocic
AWR HAWKINS11 Aug 20191,548
2:13
The most recent FBI crime stats show that more people were killed in 2017 with hammers and clubs than were killed with rifles of any kind.

Breitbart News reported the most recent numbers–those for 2017–on September 26, 2018. Those figures showed that 467 people were killed with “blunt objects (hammers, clubs, etc.),” while 403 were killed with rifles.

And it must be noted that the category of “rifles” used by the FBI includes bolt action, pump action, single shot, and semi-automatic, as well as those the left describes as “assault weapons.” This means only a percentage of the 403 deaths attributed to “rifles” would have been carried out with an “assault weapon.” So the gap between the number of persons beaten to death with hammers and clubs verses those killed with “assault weapons” would be even greater than the gap between those who died in a hammer/club attack versus those who died being shot with “rifles” of any kind.

Breitbart News also reported that the 2017 crime figures showed 1,591 people were killed with “knives or cutting instruments” while 403 were killed with “rifles.” This means nearly four times as many people were stabbed to death as were killed with any kind of rifle. (The gap between the number stabbed to death and the number of persons explicitly killed with an “assault weapon” would be even greater.)

Yet Democrats are pushing an “assault weapons” ban and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) says legislation for such a ban will be “front and center” when the Senate reconvenes.

AWR Hawkins is an award-winning Second Amendment columnist for Breitbart News and the writer/curator of Down Range with AWR Hawkins, a weekly newsletter focused on all things Second Amendment, also for Breitbart News. He is the political analyst for Armed American Radio. Follow him on Twitter: @AWRHawkins. Reach him directly at awrhawkins@breitbart.com. Sign up to get Down Range at breitbart.com/downrange.
Why doesn't the fake news report this?
 
You have listed some rights, and some other things that are not rights.
The "right" to bear arms is described accurately as a "right" per our constitution, and the bill of rights.

The second amendment is a limitation on government in regard to those rights.

Not complicated at all.

The framers were compelled to defend that right with the second amendment.
Why do you think they did that?

Compelled?
 
Today the second amendment is the law of the land. Tomorrow congress could choose to change that.
I only bring it up, because for the first time in my life I'm starting to wonder if the "pro gun" people are going to prove so obnoxious and ham fisted, that we might see a 2/3's majority in the Congress come together to re-write that Amendment.

The biggest risk to the 2nd A is gun loons insisting that the 2nd A gives them the right to do anything they want.
 
Democracy was not unknown, and it was a matter of careful consideration and debate in the construction of our republic.
The founders also stated their own reasons for the second amendment before and after the constitution was ratified.
You seem to be guessing at things you should already know.

Its ironic that an uneducated guy like me would be pointing this out to you.

Anyhoo, enjoy the rest of the weekend, Im got yard work to do.

What did the founders have to say? I'm sure there is an obvious link to their statements.
 
The biggest risk to the 2nd A is gun loons insisting
that the 2nd A gives them the right to do anything they want.

STFU you ignorant old Loon....Don't you have
parrot to feed....stick your fingers in the cage while
yur at it....I heard " Liberal " Parrots don't bite...!
 
Democracy was not unknown, and it was a matter of careful consideration and debate in the construction of our republic.
The founders also stated their own reasons for the second amendment before and after the constitution was ratified.
You seem to be guessing at things you should already know.

Its ironic that an uneducated guy like me would be pointing this out to you.

Anyhoo, enjoy the rest of the weekend, Im got yard work to do.

I guess I'm just old fashioned, but I still see America as exceptional.
And to me, the second Amendment is really less about fighting off the government elect, as much as it's about how hard the path has been for "us" to get here.
 
Today the second amendment is the law of the land. Tomorrow congress could choose to change that.
I only bring it up, because for the first time in my life I'm starting to wonder if the "pro gun" people are going to prove so obnoxious and ham fisted, that we might see a 2/3's majority in the Congress come together to re-write that Amendment.
The only way Congress can change the second amendment (change the Constitution) is to amend the Constitution.
38 of 50 states would have to agree with and sign the amendment.
Good luck with that. :cool:
 
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