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Andy Dukes said:
Describe a throng? Warren called herself a capitalist. While, I might consider myself a social democrat like Bill De Blasio or even Bernie, I believe we all understand the need for economies to function in mostly a work and risk for reward system. De Blasio was not demanding Amazon pay extra taxes to come to New York.
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lol
I already posted the video... go watch it and tell me what you think I mean by throng.
 
Andy Dukes said:
Describe a throng? Warren called herself a capitalist. While, I might consider myself a social democrat like Bill De Blasio or even Bernie, I believe we all understand the need for economies to function in mostly a work and risk for reward system. De Blasio was not demanding Amazon pay extra taxes to come to New York.
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You say that because you don't live and NYC and see how the social democrats are failing at leadership. Did you hear about De Blasio's wife not being able to account for almost $1 billion in city spending? Oy 'vey.

Honestly it's being here in NYC and seeing how crazy the social democrats are, is what really has turned my against them.

Where has $850m gone? Bill de Blasio's wife can't account for staggering amount of taxpayer money that the NY Mayor gave her for mental health project
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...account-850m-given-mental-health-project.html

Bill de Blasio's wife Chirlane McCray cannot explain where $850million given to the mental health program she champions has gone, according to reports.

In the three years it has been running, organizers at ThriveNYC have largely failed to keep records of the initiative's achievements - and data that has been collected shows it lagging well behind targets.

Despite that, the program has been granted an even bigger budget going forward and is now on track to spend $1billion over five years.
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tenacious said:
No... I'd like to see a lasting coalition of dems that will make actual lasting progress on things like fixing roads, affordable healthcare, restoring dignity and civility to government. I do not believe this is possible with progressives, so we should cut the cord and look to attract moderate conservatives who are chaffing under Trump.

Did you see that video of Chelsea Clinton being harassed at a vigil for victims of that shooter down in New Zealand? It's impossible to build a coalition with people like that...
https://people.com/politics/chelsea-clinton-confronted-students-new-zealand-vigil-islamophobia/amp/
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You have to pick your battle. You want to see Schultz win, I see nothing there. We have a long way to go to get to the election. It is hard to build dignity when 40% of the people want a lying Pussy Grabber to continue being our President. Where Lindsey Graham goes from calling Trump a disaster to licking his bunghole. But the majority of the House Dems running committees are doing the multitasking they were elected to do. no Benghazi style marathons of nothingness. I can't be a Democrat because of a couple key fundamental issues but the OH FUCK versus aw shit was very clear to me. Just like today. There is no centrists because we have gerrymandered them away. Both sides have dues to pay on that one.
 
Here's another one... de Blasio project gone bad.

$773 Million Later, de Blasio Ends Signature Initiative to Improve Failing Schools
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/26/nyregion/renewal-initiative-de-blasio.html

Mayor Bill de Blasio is canceling one of his signature education initiatives, acknowledging that despite spending $773 million he was unable to turn around many long-struggling public schools in three years after decades of previous interventions had also failed.

The end of the initiative, called Renewal, is a blow to Mr. de Blasio, who had hoped that success would bolster his effort to build a national reputation for innovative policies. Urban educators around the country had also looked to Renewal as a model for improving underperforming schools in historically troubled districts, rather than closing them.

Instead, the program has been plagued by bureaucratic confusion and uneven academic results since Mr. de Blasio began it in 2014. Though some of the nearly 100 low-performing public schools have shown better results, many have fallen short of the improvements that Mr. de Blasio predicted. The Renewal label itself caused parents to seek other options, causing enrollment in some schools to plummet.

The New York Times reported in October that Mr. de Blasio was preparing to close Renewal, and that city officials had known some Renewal schools were likely to fail but had left most of them open anyway. As a result, officials essentially kept thousands of children in classrooms where they had little if any chance of thriving.

The question of how to fix broken schools is a great unknown in education, particularly in big city school districts.

While some small cities like Lawrence, Mass., and Camden, N.J., have achieved some success with different strategies, no large school system has cracked the code, despite decades of often costly attempts.
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Let's not forget the subways or that another billion was spent on public housing buildings that are now being condemned.

New York City today: Slow subways, slummy projects, soaring rents
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...s-subways-mayor-deblasio-bloomberg/777568002/


NEW YORK — Five years ago this seemed the very model of a modern major city, with its bike lanes, pedestrian plazas and smokeless bars. Outgoing Mayor Michael Bloomberg even started a pro-bono consulting firm, staffed by veterans of his administration, to tell cities around the world how to solve their problems.

''We have heard this huge demand and need from other cities to learn from New York,'' Amanda Burden, city planning director, told The New York Times. ''New York is the epitome that cities look to of how to get things done.''

These days, however, other cities look at New York and see three great systems in crisis – mass transit, public housing and rent control. Their dysfunction both undercuts Bloomberg's image of a can-do city and afflicts the average New Yorker that his successor, Bill de Blasio, claims to champion.

This summer, New York has endless waits on sweltering, packed subway platforms, where frustrated riders occasionally slug it out; public housing projects contaminated with lead paint, mold and the smell of urine; and housing prices that drive the poor into the street and almost everyone else farther and farther from fabulous Manhattan.

The July cover story in Harper’s Magazine decries New York’s “systematic, wholesale transformation into a reserve of the obscenely wealthy … the world’s largest gated community.’’ The article’s title: “The Death of a Once Great City.’’

After Bloomberg’s we-know-best hubris, and de Blasio’s “tale of two cities’’ campaign rhetoric, it’s been disturbing to learn how city Housing Authority maintenance workers routinely faked paperwork and deceived inspectors; how subway track signals intended to make travel safer have bogged it down; how big landlords are allowed to routinely cheat and bully renters out of their legal rights.
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tenacious said:
You say that because you don't live and NYC and see how the social democrats are failing at leadership. Did you hear about De Blasio's wife not being able to account for almost $1 billion in city spending? Oy 'vey.

Honestly it's being here in NYC and seeing how crazy the social democrats are, is what really has turned my against them.
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And you learned of these failings from the newspaper. By the way, I doubt someone sold the Narcon kits or stole them. I think it is horrendous for .5-.8% of the budget not to be accounted for. People should demand better. But you choose to live there. That is your choice.
 
Andy Dukes said:
You have to pick your battle. You want to see Schultz win, I see nothing there. We have a long way to go to get to the election. It is hard to build dignity when 40% of the people want a lying Pussy Grabber to continue being our President. Where Lindsey Graham goes from calling Trump a disaster to licking his bunghole. But the majority of the House Dems running committees are doing the multitasking they were elected to do. no Benghazi style marathons of nothingness. I can't be a Democrat because of a couple key fundamental issues but the OH FUCK versus aw shit was very clear to me. Just like today. There is no centrists because we have gerrymandered them away. Both sides have dues to pay on that one.
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My problem with the democratic party isn't that I can't compromise. It's that the progressive wing of the Democratic party hate moderates like me and are unreliable partners.
 
Andy Dukes said:
And you learned of these failings from the newspaper. By the way, I doubt someone sold the Narcon kits or stole them. I think it is horrendous for .5-.8% of the budget not to be accounted for. People should demand better. But you choose to live there. That is your choice.
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Fair enough. Just as long as you know why I have little patience for social democrats or their plans to fix the system. They are as bad as conservatives in Kansas...
 
tenacious said:
My problem with the democratic party isn't that I can't compromise. It's that the progressive wing of the Democratic party hate moderates like me and are unreliable partners.
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You have a choice. Trump or the other guys. And I say Trump not the Republican Party because the Trumpsters have vanquished those that dare to question Pussy Grabber. McCain is no longer a Republican, neither are all those folks who helped elect all those Republicans that show up daily on MSNBC. Or Mueller, or Kasich or Comey, or ......... All those folks who identified with a Republican party they no longer know. So that is your choice because the alternative is self-indulgent and counter productive to what you are saying your goals are.
 
tenacious said:
My problem with the democratic party isn't that I can't compromise. It's that the progressive wing of the Democratic party hate moderates like me and are unreliable partners.
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You have found yourself in a strange space. Did you feel this way in California or just recently? The propaganda machine must be working OT in the NYC having already given up on Cali.
 
espola said:
Have the newbies not voted the way she wants?
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Nancy Pelosi’s problems are just beginning

PETER ROFF Posted at 8:55 pm on March 16, 2019

Some may say that it’s not such a big deal. The activist wing of the party is likely harder to mollify, even as Pelosi and others work to keep them in line. Consider what the reaction would have been among the GOP faithful if, after using the repeal of Obamacare as the whip hand to drive voters to the polls in 2010 to win back control of the House for John Boehner and the Republicans, the measure was never even brought to the floor for a vote.












“Impeaching Trump is probably the one substantive matter that is non-negotiable for House Democrats,” says Mike Franc, a former GOP congressional leadership staffer and now head of the Washington office of the Hover Institution.

“Pelosi can get away with dismissing the New Green Deal (because it is purely aspirational and agenda-setting rather than substantive) but not this. My guess is that she suffers for this sin, mostly with the Democratic base.”

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This all reminds me of the Tea Party loons, when the insane people tried to take over the asylum from Boehner and them.. Man that was terrible for the GOP, wasn’t it?
 
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