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Andy Dukes said:
You have to pick your battle. You want to see Schultz win, I see nothing there. We have a long way to go to get to the election. It is hard to build dignity when 40% of the people want a lying Pussy Grabber to continue being our President. Where Lindsey Graham goes from calling Trump a disaster to licking his bunghole. But the majority of the House Dems running committees are doing the multitasking they were elected to do. no Benghazi style marathons of nothingness. I can't be a Democrat because of a couple key fundamental issues but the OH FUCK versus aw shit was very clear to me. Just like today. There is no centrists because we have gerrymandered them away. Both sides have dues to pay on that one.
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My problem with the democratic party isn't that I can't compromise. It's that the progressive wing of the Democratic party hate moderates like me and are unreliable partners.
 
Andy Dukes said:
And you learned of these failings from the newspaper. By the way, I doubt someone sold the Narcon kits or stole them. I think it is horrendous for .5-.8% of the budget not to be accounted for. People should demand better. But you choose to live there. That is your choice.
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Fair enough. Just as long as you know why I have little patience for social democrats or their plans to fix the system. They are as bad as conservatives in Kansas...
 
tenacious said:
My problem with the democratic party isn't that I can't compromise. It's that the progressive wing of the Democratic party hate moderates like me and are unreliable partners.
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You have a choice. Trump or the other guys. And I say Trump not the Republican Party because the Trumpsters have vanquished those that dare to question Pussy Grabber. McCain is no longer a Republican, neither are all those folks who helped elect all those Republicans that show up daily on MSNBC. Or Mueller, or Kasich or Comey, or ......... All those folks who identified with a Republican party they no longer know. So that is your choice because the alternative is self-indulgent and counter productive to what you are saying your goals are.
 
tenacious said:
My problem with the democratic party isn't that I can't compromise. It's that the progressive wing of the Democratic party hate moderates like me and are unreliable partners.
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You have found yourself in a strange space. Did you feel this way in California or just recently? The propaganda machine must be working OT in the NYC having already given up on Cali.
 
espola said:
Have the newbies not voted the way she wants?
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Nancy Pelosi’s problems are just beginning

PETER ROFF Posted at 8:55 pm on March 16, 2019

Some may say that it’s not such a big deal. The activist wing of the party is likely harder to mollify, even as Pelosi and others work to keep them in line. Consider what the reaction would have been among the GOP faithful if, after using the repeal of Obamacare as the whip hand to drive voters to the polls in 2010 to win back control of the House for John Boehner and the Republicans, the measure was never even brought to the floor for a vote.












“Impeaching Trump is probably the one substantive matter that is non-negotiable for House Democrats,” says Mike Franc, a former GOP congressional leadership staffer and now head of the Washington office of the Hover Institution.

“Pelosi can get away with dismissing the New Green Deal (because it is purely aspirational and agenda-setting rather than substantive) but not this. My guess is that she suffers for this sin, mostly with the Democratic base.”

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This all reminds me of the Tea Party loons, when the insane people tried to take over the asylum from Boehner and them.. Man that was terrible for the GOP, wasn’t it?
 
I wonder how often the white nationalist terrorism will strike here. One thing we know for sure, nothing is more likely to kill innocent people than white men with guns.
Notice how the NZ shooter name-checked Trump?
Reap what you sow...
 
Andy Dukes said:
You have a choice. Trump or the other guys. And I say Trump not the Republican Party because the Trumpsters have vanquished those that dare to question Pussy Grabber. McCain is no longer a Republican, neither are all those folks who helped elect all those Republicans that show up daily on MSNBC. Or Mueller, or Kasich or Comey, or ......... All those folks who identified with a Republican party they no longer know. So that is your choice because the alternative is self-indulgent and counter productive to what you are saying your goals are.
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I guess the trouble is I just don't know which of the Dem candidates to vote for. I sort of like Beto, but then when his wife and the way he lives is attacked (which is hardly out of the mainstream), he starts groveling for forgiveness. What a puss. E Warren on the other hand... well let me just say that I have no doubt that if Trump sent over his biker friends to straighten her out, she'd be out on the front lawn fighting them with a cast iron frying pan. I respect her toughness. But then again I look how far she's tracking to the left in the primary, and it makes me fearful that if she were president that at the first bit of scandal or trouble her instinct would be to appease the radicals to save herself (sort of like T keeps throwing red meat to the conservatives). And that makes me nervous of how far she'd go, as there is always going to be tough days for a president.

Which I guess leaves me with really either Biden, Harris or Klobuchar... with Biden prob being the one I like the best. I was impressed that when attacked for saying Pence was a nice guy, that Bidden didn't fall all over himself apologizing out of fear of the progressive mob- and just clarified what he meant. I still don't know much about Klobuchar to say other then I’m concerned by her recent comments about not being made to be president. If she doesn’t feel up to the job... With regard to Harris, she's starting to feel like she'll say anything to win votes which is starting to make me think she's more Vice President material.
 
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Hüsker Dü said:
You have found yourself in a strange space. Did you feel this way in California or just recently? The propaganda machine must be working OT in the NYC having already given up on Cali.
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About two years ago. Although I just paid NY taxes for the first time. Let me just say, moving here for me has been very eye opening in much the same way I would imagine moving to Kansas would be for an OC republican like Ricky.

I'm done appeasing progressives, as I've been to their Holy Land and found that they're talk is better then their walk.
 
messy said:
I wonder how often the white nationalist terrorism will strike here. One thing we know for sure, nothing is more likely to kill innocent people than white men with guns.
Notice how the NZ shooter name-checked Trump?
Reap what you sow...
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I do have to admit t's appeals to the crazy right is what makes it hard to vote for Schultz. We really do need to get him out of office.
 
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