2020 State Cup

lovelygoal said:
Mr. Venantsyo, BYSC, Blues, Beach, OC Surf, Blues Vaught, LAGSD, and Albion are on line 1. They would like to have a word with you.

I asked what the meeting was about and they said something like "When all you did was look at a web page and picked the teams with higher ratings between the two, we can do that on our own. Thank you." Should I put them through?

Also your own coach is on line 2. He would like to meet for a coffee today. Should I take your 3 PM slot?
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Well, rankings are there for a reason, and IF (capital IF) they have any validity they should indicate what team is more likely to succeed. Likely does not mean surely however, since in sport everything can happen.
Also your Slammers appears to have shown a keen interest in keeping the rankings up for several teams, so who am I to go against Slammers?!
 
Rankings is what makes the U9-U13 ages so fun and why the dads get hooked early on. I don;t care about rankings anymore but I really did back in the day. We had @Technician72 who went deep with each team and gave many reasons why he predicted the winners for each group. He knew his stuff. Today, I'm not sure he could pull it off but I know he would try :)
 
Soccerhelper said:
Rankings is what makes the U9-U13 ages so fun and why the dads get hooked early on. I don;t care about rankings anymore but I really did back in the day. We had @Technician72 who went deep with each team and gave many reasons why he predicted the winners for each group. He knew his stuff. Today, I'm not sure he could pull it off but I know he would try :)
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I used to dismiss it entirely until about 6 months ago. Then my daughter's team's ranking started climbing for some unknown reason and it became so much more likable.

It does provide a lot of entertainment. Without the rankings, the college football's entertainment value would be almost nonexistent. I think the same thing applies for U11 girls soccer.

7 of 9 top 10 teams are in the R16. 7 of 10 top 20 teams are in the R16. We skip the top 30's entirely. There are two Top 35 teams in the R16. I think it shows that the rankings are working pretty well but it is also not a perfect predictor. Therefore, I personally don't think the rankings should be the only thing used to predict the outcome (and I know Venantsyo did it to avoid all controversy and that is why I gave him a sarcastic response). I know all of you have your own prediction methods that is more sophisticated and if anyone is brave enough to share...

Here is the best news. Unlike college football, all teams get to participate in a tournament, and all results are determined on the field (+/- 10% on what ref had for breakfast).
 
lovelygoal said:
I used to dismiss it entirely until about 6 months ago. Then my daughter's team's ranking started climbing for some unknown reason and it became so much more likable.

It does provide a lot of entertainment. Without the rankings, the college football's entertainment value would be almost nonexistent. I think the same thing applies for U11 girls soccer.

7 of 9 top 10 teams are in the R16. 7 of 10 top 20 teams are in the R16. We skip the top 30's entirely. There are two Top 35 teams in the R16. I think it shows that the rankings are working pretty well but it is also not a perfect predictor. Therefore, I personally don't think the rankings should be the only thing used to predict the outcome (and I know Venantsyo did it to avoid all controversy and that is why I gave him a sarcastic response). I know all of you have your own prediction methods that is more sophisticated and if anyone is brave enough to share...

Here is the best news. Unlike college football, all teams get to participate in a tournament, and all results are determined on the field (+/- 10% on what ref had for breakfast).
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Welcome to the greatest form of entertainment for us old guys who have girls who can ball. I think @Dominic should create a ticker on the bottom to give us updated scores and breaking news when it comes in like our friend did when the Gun Guy was running around Temecula.
 
Soccerhelper said:
Welcome to the greatest form of entertainment for us old guys who have girls who can ball. I think @Dominic should create a ticker on the bottom to give us updated scores and breaking news when it comes in like our friend did when the Gun Guy was running around Temecula.
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BTW, this is my only source of sports entertainment. NFL is touch football now, college football and hoops has the same teams just about every year in final four (UCLA is killing me), NBA is a 3 point league and no one plays defense and baseball has a bunch of cheaters. I see where one former MBL pitcher is suing the Atsros and MLB for being released after getting shelled in one inning to the Astros. He now has severe mental anguish because all he hears is trash cans banging at night in his head like my dd keeps hearing a certain coach yelling at her all the time. Talk about playing the victim card :)
 
board of education said:
Thanks for info. So how many playin spots are available? And how many automatic bids?
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Eight quarterfinalists get automatic bid. Not every team elects to play CRL...08 Blues Baker opted to not play CRL this year. Not sure why they did that since CRL gives you quality games. So minimum eight play in spots available (last year was nine). The play in tournament is in April with sixteen teams.

Venantsyo said:
ah, so they could have used the teams in the round of 16: the play in is just to collect fees?
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Better if only quarterfinalists get automatic bid since that allows teams that got tough bracket draws to still have a chance to get in. If they didn't teams like Eagles would be on the sidelines for CRL next season.
 
Does anyone know where state cup is held this coming weekend? Will it be in oceanside or gallway? Does anyone know why they switch fields every weekend?
 
Rainbow Chicken said:
The 09 Eagles team has never played kickball. They are a good group of girls who play a good game of soccer. They had a tough weekend. It happens.
it makes you sound small and bitter to talk about any team like that. Especially a team that won two years back to back. People are waiting for them to lose.
my guess is your team has lost to them.
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Yes. My DD loses to the Eagles 2x a year and sometimes more. I respect the players and family's of the eagle's but don't like their coach. He's usually on the phone during the game and between phone calls will yell kick it harder. After the game he waits in the parking lot trying to poach our top players which is tacky. There's no game plan for him other then kick ball so don't try to kid yourself. As other teams grow on the field bad coaching becomes more apparent and good athletes can only take a team so far. At some point you need to develop a team to play as a unit. I'm sure this will happen now because of the coaching change so I really do wish that team the best moving forward.
 
Chalklines said:
Yes. My DD loses to the Eagles 2x a year and sometimes more. I respect the players and family's of the eagle's but don't like their coach. He's usually on the phone during the game and between phone calls will yell kick it harder. After the game he waits in the parking lot trying to poach our top players which is tacky. There's no game plan for him other then kick ball so don't try to kid yourself. As other teams grow on the field bad coaching becomes more apparent and good athletes can only take a team so far. At some point you need to develop a team to play as a unit. I'm sure this will happen now because of the coaching change so I really do wish that team the best moving forward.
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Who do you think the Coach is talking to on his phone?
 
Soccerhelper said:
Rankings is what makes the U9-U13 ages so fun and why the dads get hooked early on. I don;t care about rankings anymore but I really did back in the day. We had @Technician72 who went deep with each team and gave many reasons why he predicted the winners for each group. He knew his stuff. Today, I'm not sure he could pull it off but I know he would try :)
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Ah the good 'ol days. I used to track and post the following:

  • Rankings
    • Top Teams
    • Marquee Wins / Losses, Positions Climbed / Dropped
  • Tournament Tracker
    • Tournament Results Link
    • Team Name - Champion / Finalist
  • "Tech Specs"
    • Big Tournaments
    • State / National Cup
    • Dates / Fields
    • Groupings / Rankings
    • Narrative / Inside Scoop

The thing that was the most difficult to put together were the Tech specs. It was essentially painting a picture that was a culmination of what was happening on and off the field to craft a story of how games could play out, based on results and team insight. Gathering this information included doing so much outreach to parents / coaches from so many teams / clubs.

For all things mentioned above, I created templates / spreadsheets to make this process easier, but even then it was a pretty big haul. I always enjoyed the opportunity to write the tech specs. because it gave me to chance to do I what I really enjoyed, writing, but didn't chose as a profession.

With both my kids being older, the "fun" and "drama" being less prevalent, it really isn't conducive for doing write ups anymore. Maybe if I can convince my nephews to start playing club...either that or wait until grandkids start popping up, hopefully not anytime soon.
 
Technician72 said:
Ah the good 'ol days. I used to track and post the following:

  • Rankings
    • Top Teams
    • Marquee Wins / Losses, Positions Climbed / Dropped
  • Tournament Tracker
    • Tournament Results Link
    • Team Name - Champion / Finalist
  • "Tech Specs"
    • Big Tournaments
    • State / National Cup
    • Dates / Fields
    • Groupings / Rankings
    • Narrative / Inside Scoop

The thing that was the most difficult to put together were the Tech specs. It was essentially painting a picture that was a culmination of what was happening on and off the field to craft a story of how games could play out, based on results and team insight. Gathering this information included doing so much outreach to parents / coaches from so many teams / clubs.

For all things mentioned above, I created templates / spreadsheets to make this process easier, but even then it was a pretty big haul. I always enjoyed the opportunity to write the tech specs. because it gave me to chance to do I what I really enjoyed, writing, but didn't chose as a profession.

With both my kids being older, the "fun" and "drama" being less prevalent, it really isn't conducive for doing write ups anymore. Maybe if I can convince my nephews to start playing club...either that or wait until grandkids start popping up, hopefully not anytime soon.
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The secret sauce is out. Wow, that is so cool. I loved your writing btw and you have a gift. I was always told to slow down and right the right way. You also had to keep up with some of the club hoping (recruiting each year) and the goats that would leave one pasture for another every year :) @Sparky9 was very good with gathering information as was 808. Those things changed the rankings all the time. I truly appreciate the way you did them. It was super classy and fun. Ray and Rey would get pissed because his Eagles and Slammers Alvarez teams were always right there at the end but would fall short. You did best with the Legends combo teams. Fun times and maybe we both can come back when our grand kids are playing.
 
ProphAC said:

I guess everyone can watch the game the Eagles lost and decide for themselves if they played kickball.
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Great game to watch. I had the privilege to watch a bit of the second half live but the whole game deserved to be watched. Eagles played a great first half, missing several chances. Rebels have a couple of very dangerous players up top and Eagles paid the price for a couple of mistakes that put the game away in a couple of minutes towards the end. Congratuations to Rebels but Eagles are still a great team without a doubt.
 
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