2019 Women's D1 Soccer Talk!!!!

oh canada said:
BYU joining the PAC-12 has been a discussion topic for 10+ years. But it will NEVER happen, especially in today's climate of intolerance to views contrary to one's own.

PAC-12 reps hide behind the reason that BYU is not a "research university", only an undergraduate school. But that's politically correct cover...the real reason is its religious foundation, not playing on Sundays, taking positions against social issues that conflict with California's secular administrators, etc. PAC-12 will never have a religious institution in its conference, not even if Notre Dame came calling. (btw, that eliminates Santa Clara, Pepperdine, LMU, USD, Gonzaga, to name just a few others)

Conservatives can't even give a speech on Berkeley's campus without a military-esque group of security and a protest of thousands because students feel threatened by someone advocating a pro-life position. Can you imagine the outrage when the LDS football team would come to town? (99% of students at BYU are Mormon.) Folks like Ann Coulter talk a lot of nonsense (and a lot I disagree with btw), but it' s not hate speech. And she deserves the right to speak anywhere/anytime. Just as AOC or others on the far left deserve the same. It seems that we should be able to separate sport from politics.

Big12 would be a better fit politically, especially with other Christian schools already in the conference (TCU, Baylor) but an interesting nugget is that Big12 has NO men's soccer in the conference. Although football and basketball drive the decisions, men's soccer would be eliminated.
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I like Sunday games for soccer. Enjoying Saturday football games is great. The best of both worlds.
 
Simisoccerfan said:
So Hannity is a hate monger and BYU is not being “cool”? I am always amazed how liberals are so open minded only as long as you share their beliefs. While I don’t share the LDS beliefs I applaud the fact that they stick to them. Working around them makes sense and is easy enough to do.
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Sticking to their beliefs would mean forfeiting Sunday games. Forcing everybody else to change their schedule to accommodate BYU's religious beliefs is just arrogant.
 
Simisoccerfan said:
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So Hannity is a hate monger and BYU is not being “cool”? I am always amazed how liberals are so open minded only as long as you share their beliefs. While I don’t share the LDS beliefs I applaud the fact that they stick to them. Working around them makes sense and is easy enough to do.
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Now Simi, you talk about the Liberals, but us moderate conservatives will not like that either. Also, would you be okay accomodating for other religious holidays, not allowing tourneys or games to be held on Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist, Kwanzaa or Hindu holidays? It's not a bad idea - we'd have less games. It's a logistical issue in regards to play days, not religious or tolerance issues.
 
Emma said:
Now Simi, you talk about the Liberals, but us moderate conservatives will not like that either. Also, would you be okay accomodating for other religious holidays, not allowing tourneys or games to be held on Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist, Kwanzaa or Hindu holidays? It's not a bad idea - we'd have less games. It's a logistical issue in regards to play days, not religious or tolerance issues.
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This is a silly discussion. In reality there is only one team in the nation effected and it is easy to accommodate. Stanford vs BYU should be a great game.
 
it's kind of funny I didn't mention it concerned with BYU at all - to your point it's one school, and easy to accommodate.

But we have seen youth tournaments where teams have signed up, knowing the tournament schedule, and then just skipped the Sunday semi-finals or championship games. In once case we received a forfeit win in a championship game, in another, we played a team in the Finals that had advanced off a forfeit-win in a morning semi-final game, and came in less tired than our team.

My hope is that (youth)tournaments wouldn't allow teams to sign-up who can't commit to playing the pre-determined schedule.


This wasn't in Cali, it was in what our conservative brethren would describe as a "more" open-minded jurisdiction.
 
LMULions said:
not playing on Sundays is not cool to the rest of the League, or tournament, you join. There are tournaments in surrounding states where teams just skip the Sunday semi-finals or championship games. Not cool to the rest of the teams you're competing against. If that is your position you should take it on yourself not to join competitions or Leagues that schedule games on Sundays.
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Emma said:
Now Simi, you talk about the Liberals, but us moderate conservatives will not like that either. Also, would you be okay accomodating for other religious holidays, not allowing tourneys or games to be held on Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist, Kwanzaa or Hindu holidays? It's not a bad idea - we'd have less games. It's a logistical issue in regards to play days, not religious or tolerance issues.
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Believe it or not @espola, I was baptized in the Later Day movement back in 74'. My mom & dad had many kids and the church felt sorry for my parents and they generally wanted to help us out. Keep in mind 6 of us were adopted as was my mother. Family tree history was an issue. Also, my older sister loved Pepsi and my dad loved coffee. We weren't allowed any of that in those days. My sister was the first to rebel. She would drink Pepsi in front of our family home leader elder brother. He was very gracious and tried to get me to be a leader. I would go to bed at night fearful of what all the young boys have to do at 18. Anyway, It's true, no play on Sundays. At 14 my mom said it was my choice if I wanted to continue going and I never went back because I played sports and I would 100% not go on a mission. Being honest with you all. I went to a conservative Christian church later and they said no play on Sunday as well. I was cool with that rule until my dd started playing soccer and pastor game to my house to check on us. It didn't go well because it came down to soccer vs church. No way God demands 10am on Sunday and 10% of your income I told the fulltime pastor. We left and we still love God and believe everyday is Gods day and we should all try and be nice to each other during the other days during the week too.
 
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Soccer4evr said:
No, it's just religious freedom.
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Nobody is stopping them from practicing their religion. At the same time, all other NCAA schools who don’t practice that religion shouldn’t be expected to have to jump through hoops to accommodate them. I’m betting that if a Muslim school joined the NCAA and wanted accommodations during the month of Ramadan, Christians wouldn’t be singing the “religious freedom” tune in solidarity.
 
Emma said:
Now Simi, you talk about the Liberals, but us moderate conservatives will not like that either. Also, would you be okay accomodating for other religious holidays, not allowing tourneys or games to be held on Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist, Kwanzaa or Hindu holidays? It's not a bad idea - we'd have less games. It's a logistical issue in regards to play days, not religious or tolerance issues.
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That would be fine, except Muslims, their camels just shit in the field.
 
Happy Thanksgiving

Final 8, here we go...

UCLA vs Florida State

USC vs North Carolina

Washington State vs South Carolina

Stanford vs BYU

Pac12 rep’d very well... in my view, it is not totally surprising that WSU is here… Even in their losses in the conference, they were absolutely relentless in their effort, and their size and speed up top has certainly provided them with what they’ve needed so far in the NCAA tournament.

USC vs North Carolina is interesting... North Carolina has of course some elite players, but also a lot of depth and USC will have to contend with that. On the other hand, North Carolina will have to contend with truly talented USC attackers who definitely have a gift for scoring goals, hope they are healthy and good to go.

UCLA vs Florida State... rematch of early season game where UCLA came away on top.
Tough to beat Florida State twice, however UCLA is clearly humming right now and the reverse of it’s “tough to beat Florida State twice” is it’s also tough to beat UCLA once. Looking for a big game from the Bruins.

Stanford v BYU ... I got to watch BYU a couple times, they really took it to Pepperdine, the one team that beat Stanford this year, and it’s clear that so far the BYU attack has been very impressive. This might be the challenge for Stanford, holding that BYU attack off early and getting a goal first. I think if BYU scores first and can defend, it could be trouble for the Card.

Amazing slate of games tomorrow, and it’s a shame they’re not all on national television.
 
turftoe said:
Happy Thanksgiving

Final 8, here we go...

UCLA vs Florida State

USC vs North Carolina

Washington State vs South Carolina

Stanford vs BYU

Pac12 rep’d very well... in my view, it is not totally surprising that WSU is here… Even in their losses in the conference, they were absolutely relentless in their effort, and their size and speed up top has certainly provided them with what they’ve needed so far in the NCAA tournament.

USC vs North Carolina is interesting... North Carolina has of course some elite players, but also a lot of depth and USC will have to contend with that. On the other hand, North Carolina will have to contend with truly talented USC attackers who definitely have a gift for scoring goals, hope they are healthy and good to go.

UCLA vs Florida State... rematch of early season game where UCLA came away on top.
Tough to beat Florida State twice, however UCLA is clearly humming right now and the reverse of it’s “tough to beat Florida State twice” is it’s also tough to beat UCLA once. Looking for a big game from the Bruins.

Stanford v BYU ... I got to watch BYU a couple times, they really took it to Pepperdine, the one team that beat Stanford this year, and it’s clear that so far the BYU attack has been very impressive. This might be the challenge for Stanford, holding that BYU attack off early and getting a goal first. I think if BYU scores first and can defend, it could be trouble for the Card.

Amazing slate of games tomorrow, and it’s a shame they’re not all on national television.
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Are they not showing Stanford on TV at all?
 
Don't feel so bad after seeing another quality team take a 0-4 beatdown. We were right that we didn't want to be near the Stanford or UCLA brackets. Much respect to Pac-12, but don't see USC playing close to UNC. Pulling for Washington State! Good luck to all.
 
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