2019 Women's D1 Soccer Talk!!!!
- Thread starter gkrent
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Saw this not too long ago, worth a read on coming back from an ACL injury.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/24/...ury-be-wary-when-returning-to-sports.amp.html
Simisoccerfan
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Simisoccerfan
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College head of Orthopedics looked at my dd’s knee today. He was very surprised how good it looked. They still won’t let her return to play till the 6 month mark. Even then medical redshirting is the likely outcome. I am glad she is good hands as I leave her 2500 miles from home.
The data is inconclusive although it would make sense that all the time rehabbing the bad knee might put the good knee at risk. However, most programs now focus on complete strengthening, in terms of making sure both knees are near the same percentage. What we do know is that everyone is different. Some come back faster than others... some come back too soon... others wait. Ultimately the article has it right, in terms of saying that players need to listen to their body and make sure they are 100% confident when they return.
I have heard a lot of stories about ACL injury and rehab - never heard of a player coming back to play before 9-10 months post surgery. The article was interesting and made sense. The researchers (Kate Webster, sport, exercise and rehabilitation research at La Trobe University in Melbourne, Australia, and Timothy Hewett, director of the Orthopedic Biomechanics Laboratory at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester) seem legitimate. It was also a meta-analysis of 18 studies so their approach seemed thorough. There were some varied results but one piece I found interesting was that passing an RTS test battery significantly reduced the risk for subsequent graft rupture but it increased the risk for a subsequent contralateral ACL injury. It is so difficult when this is your DD's passion and they have to take their time to heal properly and not play for an extended time. Requires a lot of patience and discipline for long term health.
turftoe
SILVER ELITE
Very loose PAC 12 prediction — need to see some games to hone in a bit more clearly
Stanford or UCLA — coin flip
Does the new wave of players at both schools weave into and truly click with the veterans?
USC (a timely break or two could put them right with the 2 above)
Wazzu- yes, I know it ain’t “pretty” but I like their speed and aggressiveness up top, back line will have to replace a couple solid players
Next clump — Oregon, Colorado, Cal - recruitment over last couple years, time to bloom... or fade — hoping they all have great preseasons for strength of conference
Next clump — Arizona and Arizona State, Utah, Washington; need some upsets to climb outta this
Oregon State - new coach, major growing pains
Should be a fun season to watch - hoping for major pac12 representation in the tournament and at College Cup
Stanford or UCLA — coin flip
Does the new wave of players at both schools weave into and truly click with the veterans?
USC (a timely break or two could put them right with the 2 above)
Wazzu- yes, I know it ain’t “pretty” but I like their speed and aggressiveness up top, back line will have to replace a couple solid players
Next clump — Oregon, Colorado, Cal - recruitment over last couple years, time to bloom... or fade — hoping they all have great preseasons for strength of conference
Next clump — Arizona and Arizona State, Utah, Washington; need some upsets to climb outta this
Oregon State - new coach, major growing pains
Should be a fun season to watch - hoping for major pac12 representation in the tournament and at College Cup
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MakeAPlay
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I like your picks. Here is my insight:
In your first clump one team loses 6 starters and a 7th that was a starter prior to her injury. They have 25 players on their roster and 6 are true freshman and another 3 redshirted last year. The other team returns 10 of 11 starters and 19 of their top 22 and have 35 players on the roster and the #2 recruiting class (with at least 4 players that will contribute this season).
You mentioned $C and yes they definitely have the talent and the coaching to challenge the top two teams. Their challenge is going to be on defense as they have plenty of attacking talent. They did lose their best player for the season which is definitely going to matter especially against Stanford and UCLA.
Wazzu is a thorn in the side of the top two but them losing their two most valuable players on defense, one of which took their corner kicks and was tied for 2nd in the nation (with a Bruin) for assists. From what I understand a certain team has that game circled on their schedule and there will be no love lost. Their problem is that they get up to play the top teams and then try to act like a possession team against the other teams in the conference and end of slipping up. If they stick to who they are they will do well and could even make the Sweet 16 again. If they live off the season that they had last year they might not make the tournament.
I would put Colorado, Cal, Arizona State, Wazzu, Utah and Arizona in the same clump. All have things going for them but all have serious flaws that will be exploited by the top 3 teams. Whichever of those teams deal the best with the others in this group will have a chance to get a #4 seed or at least a favorable draw in the tournament. My money is on Arizona State finishing 4th.
In my opinion, Washington, Oregon and Oregon State are going to struggle. If any of them has a real chance it is the Huskies. They at least have some returning starters and will get some players back from injury.
I agree that it is going to be a fun year and at least 3 teams have a realistic hope of playing into December. Good luck to you and your player.
MakeAPlay
DA
Since the preseason poll is going to be released in the next few days, here is what I think it is going to look like (not necessarily what I think it should be):
1. Florida State
2. Stanford
3. North Carolina
4. UCLA
5. U$C
6. Georgetown
7. Penn State
8. Tennessee
9. Virginia
10. Duke
11. Baylor
12. Texas A&M
13. Santa Clara
14. West Virginia
15. Texas
16. South Carolina
17. Wisconsin
18. Vanderbilt
19. South Florida
20. NC State
I think that it should be slightly different but the top 4 are spot on even if in a different order. Let's see some other takes.
1. Florida State
2. Stanford
3. North Carolina
4. UCLA
5. U$C
6. Georgetown
7. Penn State
8. Tennessee
9. Virginia
10. Duke
11. Baylor
12. Texas A&M
13. Santa Clara
14. West Virginia
15. Texas
16. South Carolina
17. Wisconsin
18. Vanderbilt
19. South Florida
20. NC State
I think that it should be slightly different but the top 4 are spot on even if in a different order. Let's see some other takes.
MakeAPlay
DA
They get there fair share of top recruits and they get results against top teams. Santa Clara has a better record against Stanford than my daughter's team yet my daughter's team has beaten them every time they have played them in the last 3 years.
MakeAPlay
DA
Cal is the biggest enigma in the conference coming into this season. They could be a solid 4th place team that competes with the top 3 or they could be a 9th place team with back to back years out of the tournament. That would get the coach fired in my opinion... Sure glad my daughter thought Berkeley was to gritty for her liking because she sure like the Quidditch tournament that was going on when she was on her trip!
The Outlaw *BANNED*
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I've yet to see Neil listed at any "showcase" event... it's always Austin. Even Paul and Amanda register to travel/recruit. Am I imagining that?
That is crazy. My only advice would be, make 100% sure that both legs are of equal strength and flexibility before her return to the pitch. Yes the graft has healed but can the muscles in that leg withstand the pressures it is going to be put under. I definitely would error on the side of caution. Good luck to you and your daughter.
I cannot speak to him specifically, but one Ivy coach shared that they did not put their names at Showcases, or if they did add their names, they did it after the Showcase started. They wanted players who wanted them, and they wanted to avoid the hundreds of emails from players with a 3.0 GPA who had no chance of getting in to their university. I also know some coaches let their assistants put their names in at the showcases and get the flood of emails. They may have been there, but then they didn't have to deal with all of the emails from players.
Again, no idea if he is attending or not, but I would not assume he is not just because he is not listed. We always sent emails to coaches whether they appeared on the list attending or not for her target schools. And we always included the head coach in any emails about schedules-- even if they had one assistant who did most of the recruiting for them. Good luck!
girlgotgame
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What specifically makes the preseason rankings differ from the 2018 season ending rankings besides recruiting class and graduating class?
MakeAPlay
DA
It is usually pretty close to the season ending rankings which is why I said that it wasn't necessarily how I would rank the teams. It usually sorts itself out after the first 2-3 weeks. sometimes a few teams shift around, however, 99% of the time the defending national champion is ranked #1 regardless of what they return.
Simisoccerfan
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Thanks for the advice but she is now in the hands of the orthopedic and AT at college. Together with the coach they told me she won’t play in a game until they are sure she is ready. Their facilities blow me away and I trust she is in good hands. She will be doing the fitness test tomorrow so I am interested to see if she comes in last place.
The Outlaw *BANNED*
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I get that strategy... but it's interesting I don't see more coaches doing it. Maybe he stands out because his job is a gnat's ass from being vacant but, in my mind, if Stanford, UCLA, USC, Santa Clara, etc can manage to deal with those pesky recruits that pay their bills, so could Neil. Seems to me he could use the P.R.