2016-17 D1 Women's soccer thread!!!

Bernie, Picking it up today...gotta get through the neighborhood first tho...


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outside! said:
Unlimited subs make the game more direct and more physical. Anson Dorrance style massed substitutions make the game into a track meet.
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Unlimited subs? Is that it?

First of all, subs aren't unlimited. Compared to youth club play, they are very limited.

Secondly, having the ability to move players in and out of a game allows the coaches to be more creative in their development techniques. If not subbing were important, the coach is free to do that and even advertise it as a benefit good players would see in his program.

Be thankful we do not go back to the old days in which FIFA permitted no subs - someone got hurt, you played short. The trend over they ears has been to make FIFA rules more like NCAA. We can only hope.
 
offthecrossbar said:
Do you think our U17 and U20 YNT's and USC's style of play are similar Yes or No?
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OTC I agree The Mountaineers played better soccer....some of their offensive build-up and combinations were brilliant and breathtaking... yet the Trojan goals were from outstanding/spectacular individual efforts...I admired both but 7/10 times WVA wins the game...
 
offthecrossbar said:
After watching USC vs West Virginia and our U17 and U20's YNT play in their World Cup. USC's style of play is a spitting image of the our YNT. Bunker, defend, play physical, counter with long balls. USC is the poster child of what is wrong with womens soccer, yet because USC won the colleg cup. Posters are now posting how great a counter attacking goal is. Make up your mind people.
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Hey who's posting how great counter attacking soccer is? Certainly not me and my kid just won a National Championship! Listen, 3 years ago half the team wanted to quit soccer. KM took over the team resurrected the program with what he was given and sprinkled in a couple of HIS recruits this year and did something special. Soccer was not pretty so lets leave it at that. I have an inkling that we will play quite a bit differently next year if you have followed club soccer in SoCal when a second wave of recruits come in and the senior champions have moved on.
 
soccerobserver said:
OTC I agree The Mountaineers played better soccer....some of their offensive build-up and combinations were brilliant and breathtaking... yet the Trojan goals were from outstanding/spectacular individual efforts...I admired both but 7/10 times WVA wins the game...
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I don't care who played better soccer. WVA was a Canadian YNT, so I'm glad USC won.
 
pulguita said:
Hey who's posting how great counter attacking soccer is? Certainly not me and my kid just won a National Championship! Listen, 3 years ago half the team wanted to quit soccer. KM took over the team resurrected the program with what he was given and sprinkled in a couple of HIS recruits this year and did something special. Soccer was not pretty so lets leave it at that. I have an inkling that we will play quite a bit differently next year if you have followed club soccer in SoCal when a second wave of recruits come in and the senior champions have moved on.
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Congratulations to you and your daughter for a thrilling Championship Win and season's journey!

I think this officially makes you King of All Posters!!!!
 
pulguita said:
Hey who's posting how great counter attacking soccer is? Certainly not me and my kid just won a National Championship! Listen, 3 years ago half the team wanted to quit soccer. KM took over the team resurrected the program with what he was given and sprinkled in a couple of HIS recruits this year and did something special. Soccer was not pretty so lets leave it at that. I have an inkling that we will play quite a bit differently next year if you have followed club soccer in SoCal when a second wave of recruits come in and the senior champions have moved on.
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Congrats my friend. Nice to win one. And I agree that you can never fault a coach for taking what he has, sprinkling in a little of his magic and winning it all!
 
pulguita said:
Thanks bud. Who woulda thunk. Things seem to work out don't they?
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Based upon his sub pattern it looks like your daughter will be starting next year in place of Andrews. She will fit nicely at that spot. I have to think that with her Savannah, AJ and TM you guys will have enough pieces to replace most of what you lost. Is Randle getting a 6th year? Getting her back and a decent replacement outside back for Levin will be your biggest opportunities. It will be interesting to see how Pruitt and Anthony do but with Savannah and your lady pulling the strings I expect a significant change in style of play.

Again congrats to your lady. She is very deserving of the title and I bet that Savannah would have liked to be there and get a ring too.
 
espola said:
Unlimited subs? Is that it?

First of all, subs aren't unlimited. Compared to youth club play, they are very limited.

Secondly, having the ability to move players in and out of a game allows the coaches to be more creative in their development techniques. If not subbing were important, the coach is free to do that and even advertise it as a benefit good players would see in his program.

Be thankful we do not go back to the old days in which FIFA permitted no subs - someone got hurt, you played short. The trend over they ears has been to make FIFA rules more like NCAA. We can only hope.
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You are correct, there are limitations on WHEN a team can substitute. There are no limitations on the NUMBER of substitutions a team can make however. From the NCAA 2016-2017 rules:

"3.4 Number of Substitutes
Either team may substitute up to 11 players at a time under the conditions set forth in Rule 3.5"

Having an unlimited number of substitutions makes the NCAA game considerably different than the FIFA game and in my opinion rewards pure athleticism over skill. It also makes for a more physical, direct game.
 
MakeAPlay said:
Based upon his sub pattern it looks like your daughter will be starting next year in place of Andrews. She will fit nicely at that spot. I have to think that with her Savannah, AJ and TM you guys will have enough pieces to replace most of what you lost. Is Randle getting a 6th year? Getting her back and a decent replacement outside back for Levin will be your biggest opportunities. It will be interesting to see how Pruitt and Anthony do but with Savannah and your lady pulling the strings I expect a significant change in style of play.

Again congrats to your lady. She is very deserving of the title and I bet that Savannah would have liked to be there and get a ring too.
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Yes Dom is coming back - medical redshirt.
 
outside! said:
You are correct, there are limitations on WHEN a team can substitute. There are no limitations on the NUMBER of substitutions a team can make however. From the NCAA 2016-2017 rules:

"3.4 Number of Substitutes
Either team may substitute up to 11 players at a time under the conditions set forth in Rule 3.5"

Having an unlimited number of substitutions makes the NCAA game considerably different than the FIFA game and in my opinion rewards pure athleticism over skill. It also makes for a more physical, direct game.
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And?
 
outside! said:
You are correct, there are limitations on WHEN a team can substitute. There are no limitations on the NUMBER of substitutions a team can make however. From the NCAA 2016-2017 rules:

"3.4 Number of Substitutes
Either team may substitute up to 11 players at a time under the conditions set forth in Rule 3.5"

Having an unlimited number of substitutions makes the NCAA game considerably different than the FIFA game and in my opinion rewards pure athleticism over skill. It also makes for a more physical, direct game.
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Interesting point, would USC's tactical strategy been successful with FIFA limited sub rules? The climate also needs to be accounted. Limited subs in 90 degrees with 60% humidity at Papua New Guinea compared to NCAA hockey line change rules in 50-60 degrees at San Jose is a big difference.
 
offthecrossbar said:
I don't care who played better soccer. WVA was a Canadian YNT, so I'm glad USC won.
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I hear you but there might be a reason that they got a medal at the Olympics and we didn't. And style of play might have something to do with it. When we come up against African teams or French teams that are as athletic as us (or more athletic) and all we have is kickball to fall back on it helps us get significantly outshot and outplayed. And when we play against the Asian teams we look ridiculous. Style may not matter in a domestic championship but if we want to maintain our #1 ranking in the world style will matter. Kickball isn't going to beat the top 4-8 teams in the world...
 
MakeAPlay said:
I hear you but there might be a reason that they got a medal at the Olympics and we didn't. And style of play might have something to do with it. When we come up against African teams or French teams that are as athletic as us (or more athletic) and all we have is kickball to fall back on it helps us get significantly outshot and outplayed. And when we play against the Asian teams we look ridiculous. Style may not matter in a domestic championship but if we want to maintain our #1 ranking in the world style will matter. Kickball isn't going to beat the top 4-8 teams in the world...
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Agree 100%. That said, I will forever root against the Canadian team for the Canada allowing the Women's World Cup to be played on artificial turf. If Sinclair and her teammates would have put their foot down early, things would have changed. Think about it, a host country playing a team of scabs. Canada does not have a deep enough player pool to replace them.
 
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