2005 DA Standings

Dr. Richard Hurtz said:
Excellent point xavi10.
I agree with you. You make a valid point.
Except for the fact that the original 2004 LAFC boys are damn good.. the original 2005 LAFC boys are damn good.. and their new arrival 2006 LAFC boys are damn good. All three of these teams kick ass continuously every game day. Now for sake of argument we can disregard the 2006’s cause they’re new.. but then how do you explain the existing 04 and 05 team? There are still players on these teams who are originals. They were playing before LAFC even had their name made up. They were playing when Joey Cascio was their only coach. I’m talking about over two years ago... there’s still about 7 to 10 of these boys who were the very first originals. The originals of the originals. And I’m giving these boys the respect they deserve. So if you hate LAFC cause they win or you hate LAFC cause they recruit or you hate LAFC cause they’re MLS.. I don’t care what your reasons; I will stick up for these boys. I’ve watched them before there was a stadium. I’ve watched them before they had a name. I’ve watched them before they had a home to practice on. I’ve watched them four to five nights a week busting their butts for over two years... so if you think I care that they recruit but not develop? You’re wrong Sir. I’m happy they recruit only the best and develop only the best.
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There is only 1 04 LAFC “Original” & I believe maybe 3-4 05 LAFC “Originals” left from the U12 team that Joey Cascio coached. If you’re talking about the 2nd year of the LAFC academy, when LAFC picked up the previous TFA 04 & 05 teams, there maybe more of those kids still there, making the 7-8 kids a more accurate statement. But those TFA kids were not a part of the Originals.
 
here's predicts vs actuals for this last weekend (11/23) home is listed first, and order is alpha by home team. some good matches this weekend. Happy Turkey Day!

quick question: couple of key players were not rostered for the respective teams. anyone have any news on 05 YNT to share? either for posting or DM.

SoCal
predict: Barca 4 - LAGSD 1 actuals: Barca 1 - LAGSD 1
note: interesting result. A little subtext with this one since several ex-SD Surf players from 2018-19 are team rostered on Barca and several are rostered on LAGSD. having said that, MMG was not on the game roster for this one. not much info on the game report. 0-0 at ht. BR got a card at the 47th minute and then got a goal for Barca at the 50th minute. LAGSD tied it up at the 70th minute.

anyone have any more commentary or insight? either for posting or dm.

predict: FC Golden State 3 - Arsenal 0 actuals: FC Golden State 3 - Arsenal 0

predict: LAUFA 1 - Real SoCal 4 actuals: LAUFA 1 - Real SoCal 3

predict: LAFC 1 - Real Salt Lake 0 actuals: LAFC 2 - Real Salt Lake 1
note: got there late on this match. From the look of it, RSL's mid field was technically OK but not strong, and JB was not on the game roster. LAFC looked fairly dominant but mostly due to individual LAFC players being strong than the individual RSL players.Having said that, LAFC's backline was swinging the ball every efficiently. Saw the ball move up to RSL's right wing a couple of of times and LAFC was clearly very aware of this.

Any other comments - either for post or DM - from folks who saw more of the match?

predict: Pateadores 3 - LA Galaxy 6 actuals: Pateadores 2 - LA Galaxy 2
note: per game report, LAG finally has several key players back but came out with a less than expected result. Pats got one early but LAG got two back to make it 2-1 LAG at ht. Pats scored late for the 2-2 tie.

From reading the game report, only two cents is that LAG needs to figure out how to play both JO and JR at the same time. have glanced at the numbers and having those two on the field at the same time seems to be LAG's secret sauce but it doesn't happen often. will take another look n the coming weeks at this one.

Any other comments - either for post or DM - from folks who saw more of the match?

predict: San Diego Surf 3 - Albion 1 actuals: rescheduled.

predict: TFA 3 - Strikers 2 actuals: TFA 3 - Strikers 4
note: TFA has solidly come back this season after losing a number of players. meanwhile, Strikers are doing well but not as well as in years past.

per game report, looks like it was fun match to watch. WD was there coaching the Strikers against his former team, TFA. TFA scored first at the 5th min ute but the Strikers came back with two goals to make it 2-1 but TFA got one back right before half to make it 2-2 at ht. Looks like there was some intense/emotional ten minute period with the Strikers getting two quick goals at the 54th and 56th minute, and TFA scoring one at the 58th minute. TFA also had two cards at the 54th and 61st minute. After that, things settled down, and the final result was 4-3 Strikers.

Any other comments - either for post or DM - from folks who saw more of the match?

Non-SoCal
predict: Ballistic 2 - Portland Timbers 2 actuals: Ballistic 2 - Portland Timbers 5
predict: Sacramento Republic 1 - SVSA 2 actuals: Sacramento Republic 4 - SVSA 0
predict: San Jose Earthquakes 3 - Portland Timbers 1 actuals: San Jose Earthquakes 2 - Portland Timbers 3
predict: Vancouver Whitecaps 1 - Seattle Sounders 2 actuals: Vancouver Whitecaps 0 - Seattle Sounders 3
 
here's predicts for this weekend (1/26/20). presumably, all the 05 teams have roughly the same winter break training schedule so there won't be too much crazy variance from expected but... home team is listed first.

Arsenal 0 - LA Galaxy 3
Barca 3 - FC Golden State 1
Nomads 5 - Pateadores 3
San Diego Surf 2 - LAGSD 2 - match to watch
note: lots of subtext on this one. After the 2018-19 SD Surf - who was #1 in the country - scattered (after their coach left to join LAFC). Most of SD Surf's starting XI either went to RSL, Barca or... LAGSD. However, there were also several key players who stayed w/ the Surf.

As expected, SD Surf had a tough time to start the season but seem to have gathered themselves and are trending - aside from a bad match vs San Jose - solidly up and to the right.

LAGSD has also taken a step up in form from last year but ended 2019 a little bit on the downslope w/ disappointing November losses, 2-3 to the Pats and 1-8 to LAFC.

Last match between these two teams was a 1-1 tie.
TFA 1 - LAFC 5
 
here's predicts vs actuals for this last weekend (1/26/20). home team is listed first.

predict: Arsenal 0 - LA Galaxy 3 / actuals: Arsenal 0 - LA Galaxy 1
note: a little surprised that LAG didn't put a stronger showing in here. ever since they beat LAFc last year at the beginning of the season, keep waiting for LAG's 05s to break out/become more dominant, but it seems like it's just not meant to be. The numbers on Arsenal are not great. This loss was their sixth shut-out loss in a row. The Arsenal defense is trending significantly in the wrong direction (although their last two matches - with better than expected defensive performances - may indicate an adjustment. This one was ripe for LAG to notch a decisive win, and yet, no.

JO has only played in five matches so far this season with only two goals (he was one of their leading scorers last year), presumably due to injury. JR (LAG's other leading scorer last year) is scoring at about half pace he had as last year, with .75 goals per match in 2018-19 vs .42 goals per match this season.

But, new academy director, new coach this season for LAG. It's reasonable for some adjustment time, but for how long?

any comment/insights on situation, either to this post or via DM?

predict: Barca 3 - FC Golden State 1 / actuals: Barca 2 - FC Golden State 0
note: fairly straightforward result, but per game report, it was closer than the score might suggest w/ Barca's getting both goals very late in the match. somewhat chippy match w/ four cards (Barca had one, FCG had three). also, bears noting, that it was an home game for Barca, and they are +20% better offensively and -65% better defensively playing at home.

one observation: have seen a couple of Barca matches over the season, and they seem to be consciously working on a specific style of play with lots of fast ball movement, sometimes at the cost of better results. not 100% certain of this, but that's what it looks like.

any comment/insights on this match, either to this post or via DM?

predict: Nomads 5 - Pateadores 3 / actuals: Nomads 2 - Pateadores 2
note: the algo thought Nomads had the edge here, but nope. per game report, looks like a fun, intense match to watch. Nomads scored first at the 21st minute but Pats tied it at the very end of the 1st half for 1-1 at half time. Pats went ahead 2-1 about 15 minutes into the second half with a goal at the 55th minute, but Nomads tied it at the very end for the 2-2 final result. Match was little chippy with double yellows (one to Nomads and one to Pats) given at the 26th minute and at the 80th minute.

Question: the game report says that the Nomads and Pats went 11v11 with no subs for the whole match. Is this correct? Saw this last season around this time for a couple matches, and am wondering if this is just a mistake by the ref, or something that USSDA is asking teams to do.

predict: San Diego Surf 2 - LAGSD 2 - actuals: pending

predict: TFA 1 - LAFC 5 / actuals: TFA 1 - LAFC 3
note: per the game report, LAFC was up 2-0 at halftime, and quickly logged another in the second half to make it 3-0 by the 48th minute. LAFC switched goalies at ht, and made four subs at the 54th minute. TFA got their one at the 57th minute.

Of note, DR was not rostered for the match vs TFA, presumably because he was rostered w/ LAFC's senior team - in front of a close to 20,000 person crowd :eek: - for the friendly against Penarol on Saturday night. (for the record, seems sorta silly to refer a player who is logging MLS first team minutes by their initials, but etiquette seems to dictate...) DR was subbed in at the 68th minute and put in 22 minutes to help maintain the 2-0 shutout for LAFC.
 
Kante said:
here's predicts vs actuals for this last weekend (1/26/20). home team is listed first.

predict: Arsenal 0 - LA Galaxy 3 / actuals: Arsenal 0 - LA Galaxy 1
note: a little surprised that LAG didn't put a stronger showing in here. ever since they beat LAFc last year at the beginning of the season, keep waiting for LAG's 05s to break out/become more dominant, but it seems like it's just not meant to be. The numbers on Arsenal are not great. This loss was their sixth shut-out loss in a row. The Arsenal defense is trending significantly in the wrong direction (although their last two matches - with better than expected defensive performances - may indicate an adjustment. This one was ripe for LAG to notch a decisive win, and yet, no.

JO has only played in five matches so far this season with only two goals (he was one of their leading scorers last year), presumably due to injury. JR (LAG's other leading scorer last year) is scoring at about half pace he had as last year, with .75 goals per match in 2018-19 vs .42 goals per match this season.

But, new academy director, new coach this season for LAG. It's reasonable for some adjustment time, but for how long?

any comment/insights on situation, either to this post or via DM?

predict: Barca 3 - FC Golden State 1 / actuals: Barca 2 - FC Golden State 0
note: fairly straightforward result, but per game report, it was closer than the score might suggest w/ Barca's getting both goals very late in the match. somewhat chippy match w/ four cards (Barca had one, FCG had three). also, bears noting, that it was an home game for Barca, and they are +20% better offensively and -65% better defensively playing at home.

one observation: have seen a couple of Barca matches over the season, and they seem to be consciously working on a specific style of play with lots of fast ball movement, sometimes at the cost of better results. not 100% certain of this, but that's what it looks like.

any comment/insights on this match, either to this post or via DM?

predict: Nomads 5 - Pateadores 3 / actuals: Nomads 2 - Pateadores 2
note: the algo thought Nomads had the edge here, but nope. per game report, looks like a fun, intense match to watch. Nomads scored first at the 21st minute but Pats tied it at the very end of the 1st half for 1-1 at half time. Pats went ahead 2-1 about 15 minutes into the second half with a goal at the 55th minute, but Nomads tied it at the very end for the 2-2 final result. Match was little chippy with double yellows (one to Nomads and one to Pats) given at the 26th minute and at the 80th minute.

Question: the game report says that the Nomads and Pats went 11v11 with no subs for the whole match. Is this correct? Saw this last season around this time for a couple matches, and am wondering if this is just a mistake by the ref, or something that USSDA is asking teams to do.

predict: San Diego Surf 2 - LAGSD 2 - actuals: pending

predict: TFA 1 - LAFC 5 / actuals: TFA 1 - LAFC 3
note: per the game report, LAFC was up 2-0 at halftime, and quickly logged another in the second half to make it 3-0 by the 48th minute. LAFC switched goalies at ht, and made four subs at the 54th minute. TFA got their one at the 57th minute.

Of note, DR was not rostered for the match vs TFA, presumably because he was rostered w/ LAFC's senior team - in front of a close to 20,000 person crowd :eek: - for the friendly against Penarol on Saturday night. (for the record, seems sorta silly to refer a player who is logging MLS first team minutes by their initials, but etiquette seems to dictate...) DR was subbed in at the 68th minute and put in 22 minutes to help maintain the 2-0 shutout for LAFC.
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Galaxy not suprising at all
has been a mess all season
No team chemistry,
Too many chiefs
Last 2 games before break should give you an idea
 
here's predicts for this weekend (2/1/20). home team is listed first.

Albion 0 - LAFC 5 - could be a good weekend for LAFC to play the kids ...
Barca 2 - San Diego Surf
note: this one should be extra spicy.

MMG - one of the leading goal scorers in the country last year, left SD Surf in 2019-20 (along w/ most but not all of the SD Surf staring XI) for greener pastures. The departure were likely prompted by then SD Surf coach Benoit David leaving SD Surf for LAFC mid season last year.

In MMG's case - now just MG - he left for Barca along w/ two other SD Surf players. However, since about Thanksgiving, it looks like MG is back in SD.

And per the SD Surf/LAGSD game report, it looks like he put a full 80 in last weekend's 4-0 win over LAGSD (which by the way also has several 2018-19 SD Surf players).

Looking at Barca game reports, it looks like MMG was in tug of war for start spot/minutes w/ Barca's top goal scorer, YGG, who is averaging almost a goal a game.

(The caveat on YGG's output is he got seven of those eight in two games against LAUFA (5) and Albion (2). Albion btw, looks like it was MG's last wearing the Barca jersey.

Since MG left Barca, the Barca offense has definitely take a step down. And while MG didn't score against LAGSD, it looks like SD Surf has taken step above the pre-existing trend line.

One measure of whether or not which MG is a difference maker is that Barca - w/o MG - tied LAGSD 1-1 in late November. In contrast, SD Surf, w/ MG, beat LAGSD 4-0 last weekend.

In addition, SD Surf, after early troubles, has strong positive trend lines on both sides of the ball and look they're doing a very good job of recovering form. Barca, before MG left, had also been trending positive but that improvement has dropped off since Thanksgiving.

Anyway, bring the popcorn. Should be interesting. (and thanks Husky for bringing the personnel change to light!)

FC Golden State 2 - LAGSD 2
LA Galaxy 3 - Nomads 2 (may pop by to catch some of this match since we'll be in Carson on Saturday...)
Arsenal 0 - Pateadores 2

Strikers 2 - Real So Cal 3 - match to watch
note: these teams met twice in September DA Cup play. First match was a 1-1 tie, second match, Strikers got the better of RSC 5-1. Since then, RSC have added a key goal scorer, JR, who has scored three goals in the three games he's played.

A former LAFC forward, JR likely was the top goal scorer in the country, on a goals scored per 70 minutes played basis, back in 2017-18.

While he's got a nose for the goal, his defense needs work but RSC has D in spades (but didn't have goal scoring...).

Should be a fun match to watch.
 
Kante said:
here's predicts for this weekend (2/1/20). home team is listed first.

Albion 0 - LAFC 5 - could be a good weekend for LAFC to play the kids ...
Barca 2 - San Diego Surf
note: this one should be extra spicy.

MMG - one of the leading goal scorers in the country last year, left SD Surf in 2019-20 (along w/ most but not all of the SD Surf staring XI) for greener pastures. The departure were likely prompted by then SD Surf coach Benoit David leaving SD Surf for LAFC mid season last year.

In MMG's case - now just MG - he left for Barca along w/ two other SD Surf players. However, since about Thanksgiving, it looks like MG is back in SD.

And per the SD Surf/LAGSD game report, it looks like he put a full 80 in last weekend's 4-0 win over LAGSD (which by the way also has several 2018-19 SD Surf players).

Looking at Barca game reports, it looks like MMG was in tug of war for start spot/minutes w/ Barca's top goal scorer, YGG, who is averaging almost a goal a game.

(The caveat on YGG's output is he got seven of those eight in two games against LAUFA (5) and Albion (2). Albion btw, looks like it was MG's last wearing the Barca jersey.

Since MG left Barca, the Barca offense has definitely take a step down. And while MG didn't score against LAGSD, it looks like SD Surf has taken step above the pre-existing trend line.

One measure of whether or not which MG is a difference maker is that Barca - w/o MG - tied LAGSD 1-1 in late November. In contrast, SD Surf, w/ MG, beat LAGSD 4-0 last weekend.

In addition, SD Surf, after early troubles, has strong positive trend lines on both sides of the ball and look they're doing a very good job of recovering form. Barca, before MG left, had also been trending positive but that improvement has dropped off since Thanksgiving.

Anyway, bring the popcorn. Should be interesting. (and thanks Husky for bringing the personnel change to light!)

FC Golden State 2 - LAGSD 2
LA Galaxy 3 - Nomads 2 (may pop by to catch some of this match since we'll be in Carson on Saturday...)
Arsenal 0 - Pateadores 2

Strikers 2 - Real So Cal 3 - match to watch
note: these teams met twice in September DA Cup play. First match was a 1-1 tie, second match, Strikers got the better of RSC 5-1. Since then, RSC have added a key goal scorer, JR, who has scored three goals in the three games he's played.

A former LAFC forward, JR likely was the top goal scorer in the country, on a goals scored per 70 minutes played basis, back in 2017-18.

While he's got a nose for the goal, his defense needs work but RSC has D in spades (but didn't have goal scoring...).

Should be a fun match to watch.
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MG won’t be able to play against his former team
DA rule
 
Advantage said:
MG won’t be able to play against his former team
DA rule
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yup, you're right. smart catch. forgot about the rule. have seen the rule selectively enforced but, in this instance, unlikely MG plays this match.

but still think the match will be spicy with both teams having something to prove.

btw, complete predict is Barca 2 - SD Surf 1
 
here's predicts vs actuals for this last weekend (2/1/20). home team is listed first.

predict: Albion 0 - LAFC 5 / actuals: Albion 0 - LAFC 7
note: LAFC played two 06s, AW who typically plays w/ the 05s and B. Solares with his first 05 match.

Question to the group: NJ, who has been one of Albion's strongest players, was not listed in the game report and now shows up w/ 0 games on the team roster. So question, is this just a software glitch or is NJ w/ another team?

predict: Barca 2 - San Diego Surf 1 / actuals: Barca 2 - San Diego Surf 1
note: per game report, Barca went up 2-0 in the 1st half. SD Surf got one back late at the 75th minute for the 2-1 final. Barca had three cards in the 2nd half. MG, per USSDA rules for players who transfer, sat out this match. any additional comments on this one? looks like a good match.

predict: FC Golden State 2 - LAGSD 2 / actuals: FC Golden State 4 - LAGSD 2
predict: LA Galaxy 3 - Nomads 2 / actuals: pending
note: when we left it was 4-0 LAG, playing one man down for some of the 1st half and all of the 2nd half, due to questionable double yellow (first yellow was questionable, second was solid). DR for LAG was the real deal, and JO seemed on form. Nomads looked better but not enough to go toe to toe. anyone have the final score here?

predict: Arsenal 0 - Pateadores 2 / actuals: Arsenal 3 - Pateadores 5
predict: Strikers 2 - Real So Cal 3 / actuals: Strikers 0 - Real So Cal 2
 
here's predicts for this weekend (2/8/20). home teams are listed first.

SoCal
San Diego Surf 4 - LAUFA 1
note: SD Surf added MMG back from Barca over the holiday break, and also, evidently, have added NJ from Albion. NJ plays the 6 and is a solid smart player. Had a chance a while back to watch NJ and SD Surf's XG - another solid smart mid - play LAFC for a half. The two of them dominated in the middle and it was pretty impressive. SD Surf is make a move to get back up to the top tier. Will see how it meshes. (and condolences to Albion, the rest of the season is going to be rough.)

Strikers 2 - TFA 4 - match to watch
note: Strikers, sans YNT player Steve Francis who is now w/ the OC Blues and SR who went to LAFC is looking pretty ordinary these days. TFA on the other hand, has been solidly improving over the course of the season and is looking more solid than expected after losing the bulk of their starting XI from last year. TFA is solid offensively but way too generous defensively. Strikers have not great trend going on both sides of the ball.

Last time these teams met in late Nov, it was 4-3 Strikers. Even 2-2 at HT but TFA let it get away in the 2h. of note, TFA also gave significant minutes to six 06s that match.

Strikers secret weapon is that their current coach is the TFA coach from last year. Bring the popcorn.

Arsenal 1 - Albion 1

LAGSD 4 - Pateadores 4 - match to watch
note: Pats seem to be turning a corner a bit. LAGSD needs to get back on track. Sounds like the last match was a bit of a cluster for LAGSD. Be interesting to see who does what in this one. Last match btw these two teams was 3-2 Pats.

Real SoCal 3 - Nomads 1

LAFC 4 - LA Galaxy 1 - match to watch
note: normally would do a standalone thread for this match, but 1) this week is busy 2) LA Galaxy just isn't quite there.

Watched LAG a bit last weekend, and they'v got good players but the overall quality feels less than the sum of the parts. They had a strong 7-1 win against the Nomads, playing w/ 10 for a majority of the match. But, a lot the LAG advantage vs the Nomads was that their individual players were just better/more athletic than the Nomads players, not team play. LAFC, meanwhile, is close to back to their 2017-18 levels of shock and awe.

Last match between these two teams was 5-0 LAFC, so the algo is predicting a bit of progress but could also see this one getting away from LAG, particularly if LAFC gets going early.

SoCal Adjacent Match:
San Jose Earthquakes 2 - De Anza Force 2
 
Galaxy has been all over the place
Players leaving ,
New coach mid season trying to figure out
The team meanwhile,the players might be losing on another year again of development
Hope they get it right for good of the boys
I still see a potential blow out



strikers vs TFA
TFA picked up 2 players over the break
Laufa and Galaxy
Still see it being closer to a tie

I like SD surf for more than 4
 
Husky13 said:
OK, how did El Traffico U15 go?

As suspected, SJ Earthquakes defied the algo ….
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LAfc controlled possession, bigger & faster boys. Galaxy tried countering. Final score was 1-1

Lafc with penalty (soft foul)
Galaxy striker pressed goalie and clearance rebounded off shin for the tie.
If this match were to happen 10 times I’d say lafc would win 8 of 10.
Both teams played with intensity all game.
Easy 250 spectators at stands
 
Strikers 3 TFA 2
Strikers controlled the game ,should of been 6-0 easy ,but striker forwards r weak finishers

Galaxy 1-1 LAFC
Galaxy looked good compared to early games , missed an early PK in the first half by AR ,also had acouple chances as well as LAFC to win the game at the end
 
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