2005 DA Standings
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Living The Dream!
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Strikers 5 Nomads 1
Kante
PREMIER
think it was published somewhere on this socalsoccer forum that the summer u14 NDP national camp would happen this June 4th-ish, If accurate, that means the announcement should be within the next couple of days.
In that context, this new player ranking from Top Drawer is interesting. Lots of new names and new ratings. Three players with five stars, 22 players with four stars, and then another 140 with three stars. For reference, 238 players in total were called this year into the u14 regional camps, and then there were a handful in addition who would have been called up but weren't due to injury.
https://www.topdrawersoccer.com/sea...rea=clubplayer&sortColumns=0&sortDirections=1
In that context, this new player ranking from Top Drawer is interesting. Lots of new names and new ratings. Three players with five stars, 22 players with four stars, and then another 140 with three stars. For reference, 238 players in total were called this year into the u14 regional camps, and then there were a handful in addition who would have been called up but weren't due to injury.
https://www.topdrawersoccer.com/sea...rea=clubplayer&sortColumns=0&sortDirections=1
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Kante
PREMIER
here's predicts for this weekend (6/1 & 6/2). home team is listed first.
Los Angeles
Real So Cal 2 vs Pateadores 0
Legends 2 vs TFA 2
LAFC 6 vs Santa Barbara SC 2
note: per this Q&A with LAFC DOC Todd Saldana, LAFC DA focus has shifted from just winning games/building their brand/name to having more youngers playing up an age group for development purposes. In the u14 age group, this has translated to LAFC playing, on average, about three 06s up per game in their u14 matches since October '18.
Against Santa Barbara SC, however, LAFC played 16 06s in their first match and 12 06s up in their second match. The matches ended 5-1 and 9-2, respectively, in LAFC's favor. It's reasonable to think "well, Santa Barbara is not good, so that makes sense." But, looking at the numbers, Santa Barbara, while not great, has recent wins against Real So Cal, LAUFA and TFA. So, not sure what LAFC's game roster decisions say about their opinion of Santa Barbara.
For the record, the algo says that if LAFC played 05s vs Santa Barbara, the score would be 7-0 LAFC.
LAUFA 2 vs LA Galaxy 2 *match to watch*
Note: On paper, LAG is the better team and have a significant size advantage, particularly in the midfield. And while LA Galaxy has improved, when LAG plays away they're still below their quality at home. On the flip side, LAUFA has a significant home field advantage effect, with their defense playing 50% better than they play at away games. Hence, the predict for a tie.
Some variables include that LAG poached several key players from LAUFA for the 2018-19 season - and one of those players returned to LAUFA - so not sure how the USSDA rules will affect who gets to play and what the impact on the results will be.
Net net, lots of intra-LA rivalry here and these teams want to beat each other. Should be fun to watch (and hopefully not too much of a challenge for the refs...)
Legends 3 vs FC Golden State 1
Santa Barbara SC 2 vs Real So Cal 1
San Diego
SD Surf 6 vs Arsenal 1
San Diego SC 0 vs Strikers 3
SD Surf 2 vs Albion 1
Los Angeles
Real So Cal 2 vs Pateadores 0
Legends 2 vs TFA 2
LAFC 6 vs Santa Barbara SC 2
note: per this Q&A with LAFC DOC Todd Saldana, LAFC DA focus has shifted from just winning games/building their brand/name to having more youngers playing up an age group for development purposes. In the u14 age group, this has translated to LAFC playing, on average, about three 06s up per game in their u14 matches since October '18.
Against Santa Barbara SC, however, LAFC played 16 06s in their first match and 12 06s up in their second match. The matches ended 5-1 and 9-2, respectively, in LAFC's favor. It's reasonable to think "well, Santa Barbara is not good, so that makes sense." But, looking at the numbers, Santa Barbara, while not great, has recent wins against Real So Cal, LAUFA and TFA. So, not sure what LAFC's game roster decisions say about their opinion of Santa Barbara.
For the record, the algo says that if LAFC played 05s vs Santa Barbara, the score would be 7-0 LAFC.
LAUFA 2 vs LA Galaxy 2 *match to watch*
Note: On paper, LAG is the better team and have a significant size advantage, particularly in the midfield. And while LA Galaxy has improved, when LAG plays away they're still below their quality at home. On the flip side, LAUFA has a significant home field advantage effect, with their defense playing 50% better than they play at away games. Hence, the predict for a tie.
Some variables include that LAG poached several key players from LAUFA for the 2018-19 season - and one of those players returned to LAUFA - so not sure how the USSDA rules will affect who gets to play and what the impact on the results will be.
Net net, lots of intra-LA rivalry here and these teams want to beat each other. Should be fun to watch (and hopefully not too much of a challenge for the refs...)
Legends 3 vs FC Golden State 1
Santa Barbara SC 2 vs Real So Cal 1
San Diego
SD Surf 6 vs Arsenal 1
San Diego SC 0 vs Strikers 3
SD Surf 2 vs Albion 1
Next Friday the U14 will be scrimmaging an 04 team in Chula Vista. Not sure why the list hasn't been released but the kids have been notified.
Kante
PREMIER
can you share which 04 team?
Ilikefutbol
SILVER ELITE
Legends 2, Tfa 1. Game was a war, hotly contested. LFC clinches 3rd place after 2-5 start. Bring on ECNL.
Kante
PREMIER
heard today that u14 ynt will (also?) be playing the mx team this next weekend
Kante
PREMIER
how did it go?
RedCard
GOLD
Pretty chippy game. Lots of fouls (some called, some not but advantage played a lot by the center referee) and heat during the game. FCGS scored first on at PK (hand ball) in the 1st half and really didn't have a good clean shot the rest of the game. Legends defense kept tight with the FCGS forwards. So it could of been easily 2-0 Legends.
Kante
PREMIER
here predicts vs actual for the last weekend (6/1 & 6/2). home team is listed first.
Los Angeles
predict: Real So Cal 2 vs Pateadores 0 Actuals: Real So Cal 1 vs Pateadores 1
predict: Legends 2 vs TFA 2 Actuals: Legends 2 vs TFA 1
note: here's commentary on match from ilikefutbol (thx!): "Legends 2, Tfa 1. Game was a war, hotly contested. LFC clinches 3rd place after 2-5 start. Bring on ECNL."
predict: LAFC 7 vs Santa Barbara SC 0 Actuals: LAFC 9 vs Santa Barbara SC 1
note: although LAFC fielded significant #'s of 06s the last two matches, they went with mostly 05s this time.
predict: LAUFA 2 vs LA Galaxy 2 score pending
predict: Legends 3 vs FC Golden State 1 Actuals: Legends 2 vs FC Golden State 1
note: here's commentary from RedCard (thx!): "Pretty chippy game. Lots of fouls (some called, some not but advantage played a lot by the center referee) and heat during the game. FCGS scored first on at PK (hand ball) in the 1st half and really didn't have a good clean shot the rest of the game. Legends defense kept tight with the FCGS forwards. So it could of been easily 2-0 Legends."
predict: Santa Barbara SC 2 vs Real So Cal 1 Actuals: Santa Barbara SC 2 vs Real So Cal 2
San Diego
predict: SD Surf 6 vs Arsenal 1 Actuals: SD Surf 10 vs Arsenal 0
note: SD Surf went with a full roster of 05s for this match, and Arsenal was only able to field a team of 10 players. (thx box2box!)
predict: San Diego SC 0 vs Strikers 3 Actuals: San Diego SC 0 vs Strikers 4
predict: SD Surf 2 vs Albion 1 Actuals: SD Surf 5 vs Albion 0
note: looks like Albion was missing a couple of key players for this match and the last match against LAGSD
Los Angeles
predict: Real So Cal 2 vs Pateadores 0 Actuals: Real So Cal 1 vs Pateadores 1
predict: Legends 2 vs TFA 2 Actuals: Legends 2 vs TFA 1
note: here's commentary on match from ilikefutbol (thx!): "Legends 2, Tfa 1. Game was a war, hotly contested. LFC clinches 3rd place after 2-5 start. Bring on ECNL."
predict: LAFC 7 vs Santa Barbara SC 0 Actuals: LAFC 9 vs Santa Barbara SC 1
note: although LAFC fielded significant #'s of 06s the last two matches, they went with mostly 05s this time.
predict: LAUFA 2 vs LA Galaxy 2 score pending
predict: Legends 3 vs FC Golden State 1 Actuals: Legends 2 vs FC Golden State 1
note: here's commentary from RedCard (thx!): "Pretty chippy game. Lots of fouls (some called, some not but advantage played a lot by the center referee) and heat during the game. FCGS scored first on at PK (hand ball) in the 1st half and really didn't have a good clean shot the rest of the game. Legends defense kept tight with the FCGS forwards. So it could of been easily 2-0 Legends."
predict: Santa Barbara SC 2 vs Real So Cal 1 Actuals: Santa Barbara SC 2 vs Real So Cal 2
San Diego
predict: SD Surf 6 vs Arsenal 1 Actuals: SD Surf 10 vs Arsenal 0
note: SD Surf went with a full roster of 05s for this match, and Arsenal was only able to field a team of 10 players. (thx box2box!)
predict: San Diego SC 0 vs Strikers 3 Actuals: San Diego SC 0 vs Strikers 4
predict: SD Surf 2 vs Albion 1 Actuals: SD Surf 5 vs Albion 0
note: looks like Albion was missing a couple of key players for this match and the last match against LAGSD
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RememberME
BRONZE
LAUFA 1 LAG 7
I heard LAG looks much, much better with the new coach (LAG missing 2 players for this game).
Arsenal had only 10 players avail for this match.
Kante
PREMIER
Got it. Is the new coach the same as the guy who was coaching at the man city tournament?
RememberME
BRONZE
Yes, same guy that was coaching at Man city.
Kante
PREMIER
Anyone know how LAUFA vs LAG from June1/2 weekend turned out?
Same questions for the u13 and u14 Nomads vs LAGSD matches from this last weekend?
Soccerdad2016
BRONZE
U14 LAGSD 3 Nomads 0
Kante
PREMIER
Here’s the final improved/least improved list for the 2018-19 season thru all game results posted by USSDA as of 6/15/19. Per multiple requests for more information, am including a full list of all SoCal teams. This is similar to what was posted here for the u13/06s - http://www.socalsoccer.com/threads/2006-da.15969/page-9
Am using a simple statistical calc – regression – to look at how each team performed relative their group peers this season over time. The calc generates two key numbers:
a) coefficient = the amount of goal differential % a team improves/decline by over time. For example, if a team gets 5% better each game on average, then, at the end of the u13 27 game season, that team would be 135% better in the last game of the season than they were in their first game of the season.
The coefficient number is good surrogate for how much team development occurred over the course of the season. However, there's some caveats (adding players, injuries to key players, suspensions etc) to this. For example, TFA had more than their fair share of non-soccer related challenges this season, which clearly had an impact of the team's performance on the field as the season progressed.
b) intercept = this is the starting point where the team was in terms of goal differential % before they played their first game.
This intercept number is a very good surrogate for the quality of the players put together by a team at the beginning of the season i.e. how good are a team’s players as a group before receiving coaching. But there's some caveats here too.
For example, both LA Galaxy and TFA are listed as having some of the best players at the beginning of the season. While their players are very good, their initial rating likely also has to do with starting practice earlier in the summer while some teams - like LAFC - took some time off.
Here’s the ranked list of teams by how much they improved - or didn't improve - in 2018-19:
Here's the improvement ranking as a chart:
Here’s the ranked list of teams for the player quality that each team started with at the beginning of the season.
Here's the player quality at the beginning of the season chart:
Am using a simple statistical calc – regression – to look at how each team performed relative their group peers this season over time. The calc generates two key numbers:
a) coefficient = the amount of goal differential % a team improves/decline by over time. For example, if a team gets 5% better each game on average, then, at the end of the u13 27 game season, that team would be 135% better in the last game of the season than they were in their first game of the season.
The coefficient number is good surrogate for how much team development occurred over the course of the season. However, there's some caveats (adding players, injuries to key players, suspensions etc) to this. For example, TFA had more than their fair share of non-soccer related challenges this season, which clearly had an impact of the team's performance on the field as the season progressed.
b) intercept = this is the starting point where the team was in terms of goal differential % before they played their first game.
This intercept number is a very good surrogate for the quality of the players put together by a team at the beginning of the season i.e. how good are a team’s players as a group before receiving coaching. But there's some caveats here too.
For example, both LA Galaxy and TFA are listed as having some of the best players at the beginning of the season. While their players are very good, their initial rating likely also has to do with starting practice earlier in the summer while some teams - like LAFC - took some time off.
Here’s the ranked list of teams by how much they improved - or didn't improve - in 2018-19:
Here's the improvement ranking as a chart:
Here’s the ranked list of teams for the player quality that each team started with at the beginning of the season.
Here's the player quality at the beginning of the season chart:
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