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Here's predicts vs actuals from this weekend (2/9 & 2/10). Had a lot of the scores correct but going the wrong way. Some close matches, still some winter break rust plus weather was a factor in some matches. There's enough games now to take more systematically look at how home vs away affects results and to look at trends. predicts should be better next weekend.

SD

Predict: Arsenal 1 v LAGSD 2. Actuals: Arsenal 2 v LAGSD 1. Thx 66GTO for early results! Good win by Arsenal and they came back from being down 0-1. Per the game report, LAGSD looks like they missing 5 players who they normally roster. Is this typical? This match looks like it was interesting. Does anyone have more commentary?

Predict: OC Surf 2 v. SDSC 1. Actuals: OC Surf 1 v. SDSC 1. Per the game report, SDSC tied it up at the end. Does anyone have more commentary?

Predict: Nomads 2 v. Albion 1. Actuals: Nomads 1 v. Albion 2. Thx justneedaname for early results! Per the game report, Albion got out to an early lead and held for the win.


LA
Predict: LAG 2 v. TFA 1. Actuals: LAG 4 v. TFA 2. Per the game report, LAG brought the full squad and intensity (3 yellows), and one of the players who had to sit out after breaking curfew at the US training camp went for a hat trick, including a goal at the beginning of the game. TFA also brought the intensity with three yellow cards as well. However, they were playing from behind the whole match which was probably tough. This match looks like it was interesting. Does anyone have more commentary?

Predict: LAFC 3 v. Legends 0. Actuals: LAFC 2 v. Legends 1. Per the game report, Legends got one early from their 2004 player (March '04 birthday) who is also the Legends leading scorer (he shows up on the game report but not their USSDA roster). LAFC rallied in the second half for for the win, were missing two key players and rostered three '06s. This match looks like it was interesting. Does anyone have more commentary?

Predict: LAUFA 4 v. Pats 1. Actuals: LAUFA 4 v. Pats 3. Pats match up well with LAUFA (last match was 1-2), and a solid performance. First half was tight with the score 0-0, and then opened up in the second half. This match looks like it was interesting. Does anyone have more commentary?

Predict: RSC 0 v FCG 1. Actuals: RSC 1 v FCG 0. Here's commentary from RedCard (thx!): "Real SoCal score off a free kick about 20 yards out just inside the far post. FCGS players were saying it was an own goal going off the back of one of the defender’s head. Doesn’t matter as a goal is a goal. Weather was a huge factor as there was a heavy down pour for most of the game and the wind didn’t help either team but both teams were able to tough it out."


Curious how you have access to kid’s birthdays? The public game report made available after each game does not include birthdays, only birth year. (Ex, pointing out that the Legends players has a March 04 birthday).

As far as I know, only the match report the referee sees has actual birthdays.

Just curious.
 
here's predicts for this weekend. some interesting match-ups, particularly in the LA group. btw, the goal of this info is to provide families, coaches and clubs a baseline against which to evaluate development, rather than just focusing on did we win or lose.

A lot of folks will say after a game, "Well, we lost but did better this time," or "We won but didn't play very well." These predicts are intended to help take that mindset a step further, so that folks can say, we were projected to do "x" and we did "y" instead. Why was that? Did we make forward progress this weekend or not?

Good luck to everyone this weekend. Home teams are listed first. Should be good soccer weather (finally). fyi, have started to improvement/decline trends and home/away advantages. will see if this helps w/ accuracy or not.

San Diego
LAGSD 1 vs Strikers 3. Last time these teams played, Strikers won 7-1. Since then, a couple of Strikers' players are playing up w/ u15 and the Strikers seem to be focusing on D a bit more. Having said that, LAGSD has been trending worse defensively, so score could be closer to 5-1.

Nomads 2 vs. Albion 2
SDSC 0 vs. Arsenal 2


Los Angeles
Pats 2 vs. TFA 5. Last time these teams played, Pats lost 0-10. Since then, TFA has trended worse on both sides of the ball as the season has worn on. Plus, seems like there may have been a "come to Jesus" moment around the end of November with the Pats which has started to generate more competitive results. Too early to tell if this trend will hold.

FC Golden State 3 vs. LAUFA 1. These teams have two of the strongest home/away effects in the group, and have been really interesting to watch over the season. FCG has had a steady improvement on both sides of the ball since the beginning of the season, while LAUFA has been struggling to maintain their status as a top LA team since LAG poached a significant number of LAUFA players before the season started. The algo says the result will be FCG 1 vs LAUFA 2, but given FCG's improvement and LAUFA having to play away, am going w/ FCG 3 vs. LAUFA 1. Last time these teams played it was 1-1 w/ LAUFA playing at home.

Real SoCal 0 vs. Legends 1. Both teams rely on size, and score on counters. Re: home/away, the Legends tend to travel well. In terms of trends, RSC has been having some challenges on both sides of the ball, and the weakness in their midfield (only one dynamic mid w/ good, independent decision-making) is starting to show. Last time these teams met, the score was 0-1 Legends. Looking for the same this weekend unless Legends get an early score and then decide to stretch their legs a bit. If that happens score could be closer to 3-1 Legends.

Santa Barbara SC 1 vs. LA Galaxy 6. Some interesting trends and home/away. LA Galaxy had been trending the wrong way on both sides of the ball, and particularly not played well away. But both items may be turning around. LAG broke their home/away trend line vs TFA on Feb 9th. Plus, a number of LAG players who were called up to the Western Regional Training Camp had to sit out in the recent match against FCG due to breaking training camp curfew. One of those players who had to sit went then for a hat trick against TFA.

Santa Barbara may have hit rock bottom when they did not field a full team against FCG in their 0-10 loss, but then beat RSC 3-0 the next match out. Plus Santa Barbara looks like they play better at home than away. Handicapping with all the different trends puts the score closer to 4-2 LAG. Will be an interesting result to watch. Last time these teams played it was 8-0 LAG.


 
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Looks like TFA v FCGS just got cancelled. The game was scheduled for 6:30pm in San Bernardino then moved to 7:30pm due to all the rescheduling of the State Cup (3 weekends lost due to rain).
 
Looks like TFA v FCGS just got cancelled. The game was scheduled for 6:30pm in San Bernardino then moved to 7:30pm due to all the rescheduling of the State Cup (3 weekends lost due to rain).

My mistake - it was LAUFA vs FCGS that was cancelled.
 
here's predicts vs actual for this weekend (2/23/ & 2/24).

San Diego
Predict: LAGSD 1 vs Strikers 3. Actuals: LAGSD 0 vs Strikers 5. Seems like the Strikers match up well against LAGSD. Last match the score was 7-1 Strikers.

Nomads 2 vs. Albion 2. Rescheduled.

SDSC 0 vs. Arsenal 2. Actuals: SDSC 0 vs. Arsenal 2

Los Angeles
Predict: Pats 2 vs. TFA 5. Actuals: Pats 1 vs TFA 3. Last time these teams played, Pats lost 0-10. Some improvement by the Pats plus TFA regressing to the mean. Anyone have more color on this one?

FC Golden State 3 vs. LAUFA 1. Rescheduled.

Predict: Real SoCal 0 vs. Legends 1. Actuals: Real So Cal 0 vs Legends 1. Per the game report, Legends scored late at the 68th minute. Same result as last time these two teams played. Anyone have more color on this one?

Predict: Santa Barbara SC 1 vs. LA Galaxy 6. Actuals: Santa Barbara SC 0 vs LAG 4. After handicapping w/ trends and home/away effects, had thought the score might be closer to 4-2 LAG despite what the algo said. Anyone have more color on this one?
 
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here's predicts for this weekend. home team is listed first.

Los Angeles
Real So Cal 0 vs LAFC 2. LAFC has been having relative challenges scoring goals all season, and particularly in the last two games, plus RSC always matches up well w/ LAFC. Will be interesting to see if LAFC can start to return to last year's quality.

Legends 2 vs. FCG 1 *game to watch* FCG has had some funky games in 2019, but are still definitely one of the top candidates for most improved since the beginning of the season. on the flip side, Legends are big and defend solidly. Both teams match up well with each other. Since the game is away for FCG (they also have a strong home field advantage effect), am tipping it to Legends. This will be a statement game for FCG. Last match, it was 2-0 FCG.

LA Galaxy 7 vs. Pateadores 0 *could be a good opportunity for LAG to play some 06s up and do some development*

Santa Barbara SC 2 vs. LAUFA 4

San Diego
LAGSD 3 vs. Albion 1
SD Surf 6 vs. SDSC 0 *could be a good opportunity for SD Surf to play some 06s up and do some development*
Strikers 4 vs Nomads 1.
OC Surf 1 vs. Arsenal 2
 
So this is interesting. Earlier today, the 2019 Spring schedule for the USC Women's team came out and on April 7th at 11am, the women will have a match against the U14 LAFC DA team at Cal State L.A.

https://usctrojans.com/news/2019/2/...5mMvJHuFTl2iwQS3AHKf-dVxv91zUTQT27lMM5-ouewsM
No wonder OM is skipping college soccer. When a top women's college soccer team thinks they are only as good as a top team of 8th grade boys. OM is as good as most of those boys now.
 
here's predicts for this weekend. home team is listed first.

Los Angeles
Real So Cal 0 vs LAFC 2. LAFC has been having relative challenges scoring goals all season, and particularly in the last two games, plus RSC always matches up well w/ LAFC. Will be interesting to see if LAFC can start to return to last year's quality.

Legends 2 vs. FCG 1 *game to watch* FCG has had some funky games in 2019, but are still definitely one of the top candidates for most improved since the beginning of the season. on the flip side, Legends are big and defend solidly. Both teams match up well with each other. Since the game is away for FCG (they also have a strong home field advantage effect), am tipping it to Legends. This will be a statement game for FCG. Last match, it was 2-0 FCG.

LA Galaxy 7 vs. Pateadores 0 *could be a good opportunity for LAG to play some 06s up and do some development*

Santa Barbara SC 2 vs. LAUFA 4

San Diego
LAGSD 3 vs. Albion 1
SD Surf 6 vs. SDSC 0 *could be a good opportunity for SD Surf to play some 06s up and do some development*
Strikers 4 vs Nomads 1.
OC Surf 1 vs. Arsenal 2
LAGSD 5 Albion 0
 
No wonder OM is skipping college soccer. When a top women's college soccer team thinks they are only as good as a top team of 8th grade boys. OM is as good as most of those boys now.
I saw that LAFC team play today vs Real So Cal, and honestly MLS clubs don’t develop cause LAFC subbed out s few kids like after the first 20 mins... and although nothing unusual about that; but then the coach never put them back in even when the score was ran up to 6 to 0. And then again with 12 mins left an LAFC playerS gets injured and walks off the field and LAFC is left playing with now only 10 players on the field.. and still I watched as these same subs from the 20th minute never re-entered the game. Coach did nothing for these kids Development. Just left them on the sideline warming up. Shit the kids were on the sideline warming up for longer than the 20mins they played when the game started. I’m convinced MLS doesn’t develop. I’m convinced they only want to recruit. Prove me wrong someone.
 
I saw that LAFC team play today vs Real So Cal, and honestly MLS clubs don’t develop cause LAFC subbed out s few kids like after the first 20 mins... and although nothing unusual about that; but then the coach never put them back in even when the score was ran up to 6 to 0. And then again with 12 mins left an LAFC playerS gets injured and walks off the field and LAFC is left playing with now only 10 players on the field.. and still I watched as these same subs from the 20th minute never re-entered the game. Coach did nothing for these kids Development. Just left them on the sideline warming up. Shit the kids were on the sideline warming up for longer than the 20mins they played when the game started. I’m convinced MLS doesn’t develop. I’m convinced they only want to recruit. Prove me wrong someone.
Rumor is a number of Surf players will be making their way up to LAFC. It is possible LAFC might just be signalling to the parents where those roster spots will come from.
 
Rumor is a number of Surf players will be making their way up to LAFC. It is possible LAFC might just be signalling to the parents where those roster spots will come from.
Haha yea right, totally possible. I see that. Till surf parents get tired of driving to LA from San Deigo. Yup Somewhere on this forum I read that too LAFC is hiring a Surf Coach. Cant imagine driving that far through traffic. Then what if that Surf kid plays 20mins. This whole development vs MLS is just an endless circle or hot mess. Who knows if what Olivia is doing is right. I’m all for her, at least she can make big bucks soon!! All of these USSDA club teams including the MLS is just dreams. I don’t know where to get quality development
 
I saw that LAFC team play today vs Real So Cal, and honestly MLS clubs don’t develop cause LAFC subbed out s few kids like after the first 20 mins... and although nothing unusual about that; but then the coach never put them back in even when the score was ran up to 6 to 0. And then again with 12 mins left an LAFC playerS gets injured and walks off the field and LAFC is left playing with now only 10 players on the field.. and still I watched as these same subs from the 20th minute never re-entered the game. Coach did nothing for these kids Development. Just left them on the sideline warming up. Shit the kids were on the sideline warming up for longer than the 20mins they played when the game started. I’m convinced MLS doesn’t develop. I’m convinced they only want to recruit. Prove me wrong someone.
You are partially right and partially wrong in my personal point of view.
WRONG - It is up to the coach criteria on how to use their players, people can only assume without been certainly informed on how things are being cooked inside the kitchen. I can't blame or judge on any coaches' desitions. I think LAFC is the club doing things better than the rest. Nobody can judge the overall development just for one oversee.
RIGHT - MLS academies have the marketing power to scout the best players around, that is inevitable, no other club can compete with that. It is just a subconscious society reaction. Society tent to believe that MLS does better things and of course, it is very attractive to wear MLS jerseys. MLS Coaches developing... idk. some do, some don't. from a coach POV, it is relatively easy to set back and be one more fan or spectator of his own team. having a very talented roster make sometimes or a lot of times lazy coaches. I don't want to finger point anyone, that is not my responsibility. results are visible out there.
My concept of good development is when you see teams starting weak, midseason ok and end of the season strong, or strong from start to finish (as LAFC last season) That will tell the training, the coaching the chemistry, the structure, etc.. improving to the level desired. Unfortunately, after every season, the hunting starts again and the knowledge earned start to have deviated.
My thumbs up for Pateadores, Strikers, Surf, LAUFA, FCGS, Arsenal, TFA. They might not be the best, but you can see they repetitively progress every season.
Again, this is just my most neutral POV. you might have a different one that I will always respect.
 
You are partially right and partially wrong in my personal point of view.
WRONG - It is up to the coach criteria on how to use their players, people can only assume without been certainly informed on how things are being cooked inside the kitchen. I can't blame or judge on any coaches' desitions. I think LAFC is the club doing things better than the rest. Nobody can judge the overall development just for one oversee.
RIGHT - MLS academies have the marketing power to scout the best players around, that is inevitable, no other club can compete with that. It is just a subconscious society reaction. Society tent to believe that MLS does better things and of course, it is very attractive to wear MLS jerseys. MLS Coaches developing... idk. some do, some don't. from a coach POV, it is relatively easy to set back and be one more fan or spectator of his own team. having a very talented roster make sometimes or a lot of times lazy coaches. I don't want to finger point anyone, that is not my responsibility. results are visible out there.
My concept of good development is when you see teams starting weak, midseason ok and end of the season strong, or strong from start to finish (as LAFC last season) That will tell the training, the coaching the chemistry, the structure, etc.. improving to the level desired. Unfortunately, after every season, the hunting starts again and the knowledge earned start to have deviated.
My thumbs up for Pateadores, Strikers, Surf, LAUFA, FCGS, Arsenal, TFA. They might not be the best, but you can see they repetitively progress every season.
Again, this is just my most neutral POV. you might have a different one that I will always respect.
I agree with you... LAFC did go undefeated last year as I remember the 05’s. Now they cut and recruited and tweaking all the time. I recall them doing the same with the 04’s several times. This season it seems they got the 04’s dialed in ex: generation adidas, while their 05’s something changed. But once again this is why I feel it’s not Development but recruitment. If it’s not broken then don’t fix it! Haha shit Idk.
 
Rumor is a number of Surf players will be making their way up to LAFC. It is possible LAFC might just be signalling to the parents where those roster spots will come from.

That is no rumor. Several of the 05’s and 04’s are headed up to LAFC. Sad that the 05 team will be broken up.
 
You are partially right and partially wrong in my personal point of view.
WRONG - It is up to the coach criteria on how to use their players, people can only assume without been certainly informed on how things are being cooked inside the kitchen. I can't blame or judge on any coaches' desitions. I think LAFC is the club doing things better than the rest. Nobody can judge the overall development just for one oversee.
RIGHT - MLS academies have the marketing power to scout the best players around, that is inevitable, no other club can compete with that. It is just a subconscious society reaction. Society tent to believe that MLS does better things and of course, it is very attractive to wear MLS jerseys. MLS Coaches developing... idk. some do, some don't. from a coach POV, it is relatively easy to set back and be one more fan or spectator of his own team. having a very talented roster make sometimes or a lot of times lazy coaches. I don't want to finger point anyone, that is not my responsibility. results are visible out there.
My concept of good development is when you see teams starting weak, midseason ok and end of the season strong, or strong from start to finish (as LAFC last season) That will tell the training, the coaching the chemistry, the structure, etc.. improving to the level desired. Unfortunately, after every season, the hunting starts again and the knowledge earned start to have deviated.
My thumbs up for Pateadores, Strikers, Surf, LAUFA, FCGS, Arsenal, TFA. They might not be the best, but you can see they repetitively progress every season.
Again, this is just my most neutral POV. you might have a different one that I will always respect.
I agree with you... LAFC did go undefeated last year as I remember the 05’s. Now they cut and recruited and tweaking all the time. I recall them doing the same with the 04’s several times. This season it seems they got the 04’s dialed in ex: generation adidas, while their 05’s something changed. But once again this is why I feel it’s not Development but recruitment. If it’s not broken then don’t fix it! Haha shit Idk.
 
Wow
That is no rumor. Several of the 05’s and 04’s are headed up to LAFC. Sad that the 05 team will be broken up.

Wow!! Well if it isn’t broke then don’t fix it!! Good luck to the Surf boys but I don’t know if that’s a curse or a blessing. If my kid was accepted to LAFC my son and I would be thrilled but driving from San Deigo... oh Hell No!!!! I’m not doing that three to four times a week!! Forget that.
 
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