More potential NCAA changes

Interesting to look at different school with varied sports.

UConn a basketball school.

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Regardless, soccer is screwed. A lot of the schools are making scholarships parts of revenue sharing. Missouri is even removing athletic scholarships for athletes. Everything will come from the $20 mil.
 
Mosafie said:
Interesting to look at different school with varied sports.

UConn a basketball school.

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Regardless, soccer is screwed. A lot of the schools are making scholarships parts of revenue sharing. Missouri is even removing athletic scholarships for athletes. Everything will come from the $20 mil.
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It would be ironic if colleges just costed out scholorships and gave players an equivalent amount of money from the advertising pool. Essentially making players pay for their own college.
 
Carlsbad7 said:
It would be ironic if colleges just costed out scholorships and gave players an equivalent amount of money from the advertising pool. Essentially making players pay for their own college.
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Texas Tech is also eliminating its education-related Alston awards in order to instead use those funds for revenue sharing, according to the Avalanche-Journal. Those were academic scholarships to athletes.

I think some school may subtract cost of attendance from revenue and only provide need based aid. If a basketball player is getting $1 million a year he is not need based.
 
From what I've read the College Sports Commission will regulate the NIL money, with it being completely separate from athletic scholarship money. Otherwise it would run into Title 9 conflict. About 20-25% of the D1 colleges will opt out of this agreement. Others are choosing to opt out for the first year, may join up for the second year.
 
Slobodan said:
That's a bit like prostate cancer evaluating colorectal cancer.
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I hope there are changes to the college system and this panel has some effect.
The college soccer system is a joke in the springtime. Allowing six dates for competition. European academies must laugh at 6 dates of play during the spring school semester. How can any developmet, continuity, etc… occur over six dates? Internationally, the training schedule is year round and the men’s/women’s college programs are way behind and need to change their ways yesterday.
 
LouSag said:
I hope there are changes to the college system and this panel has some effect.
The college soccer system is a joke in the springtime. Allowing six dates for competition. European academies must laugh at 6 dates of play during the spring school semester. How can any developmet, continuity, etc… occur over six dates? Internationally, the training schedule is year round and the men’s/women’s college programs are way behind and need to change their ways yesterday.
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And no more infinite subs BS!

Force coaches to develop players and teams. Not just find a bunch of big and fast that cant run longer that 10 minutes.
 
US soccer trying to get involved is not a good thing.
Its 100% disingenuous for them to believe getting involved at the college level will somehow make the NSWL pipeline better, or even the National team pipeline better. Fix the youth process first, then abandon your fixation with fast and fit athletes who can only dribble going full speed.

If the plan includes going back to very young ages as well then maybe they are trying to get their act together. But a point solution here does nothing.

Didnt' mean to go to far off topic.
 
Orangeteam said:
US soccer trying to get involved is not a good thing.
Its 100% disingenuous for them to believe getting involved at the college level will somehow make the NSWL pipeline better, or even the National team pipeline better. Fix the youth process first, then abandon your fixation with fast and fit athletes who can only dribble going full speed.

If the plan includes going back to very young ages as well then maybe they are trying to get their act together. But a point solution here does nothing.

Didnt' mean to go to far off topic.
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Maybe, maybe not.

NFL has a free minor league via College football.

MLS and NWSL could have free minor leagues as well if College soccer could align on and provide pro clubs the type of players they need to be successful.

The thing that's obvious to me right now is that college soccer is a different game than pro soccer. With special rules and allowances. Why is this? College is supposed to be for training students and players to do something professionally. If this isn't happening why does College soccer exist?
 
This plan helps all parties. Put the kids who are getting no PT (in the Pros) back in college for development. Call them back in a few years if they see improvement. Don't understand why kids are giving up college for 10 minutes per game. At Least they can try to work towards a education.
 
lets hope the consulting firm does something smart…. Player stats. US Soccer youth lists are 199% subjective and greasy wheel, club coaches play favorites and this combo nonsense partially informs college. pass rate, win rate, work rate, etc etc….
 
Carlsbad7 said:
Maybe, maybe not.

NFL has a free minor league via College football.

MLS and NWSL could have free minor leagues as well if College soccer could align on and provide pro clubs the type of players they need to be successful.

The thing that's obvious to me right now is that college soccer is a different game than pro soccer. With special rules and allowances. Why is this? College is supposed to be for training students and players to do something professionally. If this isn't happening why does College soccer exist?
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College soccer is not for developing pros like football. High level soccer athletes can be directly recruited from high school.

The only way college soccer become relevant if MLS forces players to go to college like the NFL.

MLS Academies won't do that because once that player goes to college they have no hold on the player that they developed.

Also there is little money in pro soccer in the USA. Most college soccer players can make more money getting a regular job that playing pro soccer.
 
This is a way for colleges to try and find a way to not pay players by declaring them semi pro athletes. It's always about money and never about the athletes.
 
Mosafie said:
College soccer is not for developing pros like football. High level soccer athletes can be directly recruited from high school.

The only way college soccer become relevant if MLS forces players to go to college like the NFL.

MLS Academies won't do that because once that player goes to college they have no hold on the player that they developed.

Also there is little money in pro soccer in the USA. Most college soccer players can make more money getting a regular job that playing pro soccer.
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Yes, i understand all that.

It still doesnt make sense that college and pro soccer have very different rules. Again, if college had the same rules as pro soccer it would be FREE development for pro clubs. There's no downside. Even if pro teams choose to not field any college players its still a pathway pro teams could pull from if they wanted to.

The reason college has different rules from pro teams is because college coaches want it this way. They want big, fast, and disposable players. They want wins to be more about ability to recruit than ability to coach or develop a team/players.
 
Mosafie said:
College soccer is not for developing pros like football. High level soccer athletes can be directly recruited from high school.

The only way college soccer become relevant if MLS forces players to go to college like the NFL.

MLS Academies won't do that because once that player goes to college they have no hold on the player that they developed.

Also there is little money in pro soccer in the USA. Most college soccer players can make more money getting a regular job that playing pro soccer.
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Might be a long shot, but it could work. MLS Academies could retain a players MLS Rights and let the player develop in college similar to how EFL Academies loan their players out to League 1 & 2 clubs. If this ever becomes reality a player could get their college degree possibly for free or a heavy discount and then pursue a professional pathway. Once that fizzles, fall back on the degree.
 
KingMI said:
This plan helps all parties. Put the kids who are getting no PT (in the Pros) back in college for development. Call them back in a few years if they see improvement. Don't understand why kids are giving up college for 10 minutes per game. At Least they can try to work towards a education.
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That's what I don't understand either. I mean if it was big money involved, like basketball, football, baseball.......I could understand. But some of these girls are foregoing college and not getting a lotta money. What's the draw? I always wonder, what's the plan for these girls after NWSL?
 
Carlsbad7 said:
Yes, i understand all that.

It still doesnt make sense that college and pro soccer have very different rules. Again, if college had the same rules as pro soccer it would be FREE development for pro clubs. There's no downside. Even if pro teams choose to not field any college players its still a pathway pro teams could pull from if they wanted to.

The reason college has different rules from pro teams is because college coaches want it this way. They want big, fast, and disposable players. They want wins to be more about ability to recruit than ability to coach or develop a team/players.
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This is true. College coaches keep their jobs by winning championships. They don't get paid to develope players. They want mature transfer and foreign players.

That's why 40% of college soccer players are failed/retired european pro players.

The only way to make college a pro pathway is to ban foreign pro players and make it required to play MLS.
 
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