New USWNT head coach

crush said:
I did not watch the game but based on what Alex Morgan ("Mexico brought it tonight") said and what Carli Lloyd said is troublesome. It seemed that Mexico had Ganas and we did not. The win against the Dominican Republic was all praise about this and that and how the USA was back. Something is off with this team.

"Mexico was exceptional. Best I've seen from them in a long time. Confident, brave, relentless, organized and hungry!" (= Ganas) Lloyd said.

During a criticism of the USWNT, Lloyd stated that a "lack of motivation crept in during 2020, giving other teams the confidence that they can beat the US team."

I think the competition to make the US team needs to be more intense and cutthroat with no politics, no guarantees and no contracts and big sponsor to be on the team. Pro, yes on the guaranteed contracts. I would suggest putting together a college all-star team of players who are knocking on the door for a call up to get this team ready for Spain and England. 2 shots on goal against a team that didn't make the World cup is no bueno. I love our country and want us to win. No spot should be safe. The new coach has her work cut out for her, but she can do it. The school of hard knocks.
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Why play a college all-star team ? Most of the US team is a product of the college system. It's would basically be an inter team scrimmage , just younger ,faster players that play the same the US team plays.

How about addressing the US team lost to a half US/Mexican team with different skill set the USWNT does not value and a better coaching. I understand it's a intern US coach.

Hopefully when the staff is in place , they will replace players that don't need to be there and assemble a team that can switch up playing styles when the game calls for it.
 
Bubba said:
Why play a college all-star team ? Most of the US team is a product of the college system. It's would basically be an inter team scrimmage , just younger ,faster players that play the same the US team plays.
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It was just an idea for playing against a team with a chip on their shoulder for not being called up. I'm referring to the younger players who skipped college. They need a challenge because they don't seem ready to play with Ganas.
 
crush said:
It was just an idea for playing against a team with a chip on their shoulder for not being called up. I'm referring to the younger players who skipped college. They need a challenge because they don't seem ready to play with Ganas.
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Ganas is fine , but if you see now all the teams are fit and are not afraid of the US. If this was 10 years ago I would have said this game would have been won in the last 15 minute due to fitness and ganas. Rodman or Smith would have blown thru the last line and scored .

Most top teams now have staff's for mental and physical part of the game.
 
Bubba said:
Ganas is fine , but if you see now all the teams are fit and are not afraid of the US. If this was 10 years ago I would have said this game would have been won in the last 15 minute due to fitness and ganas. Rodman or Smith would have blown thru the last line and scored .

Most top teams now have staff's for mental and physical part of the game.
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I don't think the players are ready or playing with the passion to be #1. Something is very off. When I watch top college teams play, they play with pride and leave it all on the field. I don't see that with some of these players. I'm not saying the college game is being played the right way, I'm referring to ganas and passion.
 
The team selection is totally off. For instance, why is Becky Sauerbrunn starting as a 38 yo CB when we should be building for the future at the beginning of a WC cycle? Perhaps, we are just in a holding pattern waiting for the new coach but selecting the same players who have already had their time (and been very successful) is not a good look. I don't think it is an either/or in terms of ganas v. game smarts. Man City plays with incredible intensity but also at an otherworldly tactical/technical level. As they say, maximal effort is the minimum requirement. TBF, most of the players are still in pre-season form as the NWSL has not yet started.
 
pmgrant72 said:
The team selection is totally off. For instance, why is Becky Sauerbrunn starting as a 38 yo CB when we should be building for the future at the beginning of a WC cycle? Perhaps, we are just in a holding pattern waiting for the new coach but selecting the same players who have already had their time (and been very successful) is not a good look. I don't think it is an either/or in terms of ganas v. game smarts. Man City plays with incredible intensity but also at an otherworldly tactical/technical level. As they say, maximal effort is the minimum requirement. TBF, most of the players are still in pre-season form as the NWSL has not yet started.
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I like this and makes sense. I did not see the game so I'm just going with what Alex Morgan said about "Mexico showed up tonight."
 
pmgrant72 said:
The team selection is totally off. For instance, why is Becky Sauerbrunn starting as a 38 yo CB when we should be building for the future at the beginning of a WC cycle? Perhaps, we are just in a holding pattern waiting for the new coach but selecting the same players who have already had their time (and been very successful) is not a good look. I don't think it is an either/or in terms of ganas v. game smarts. Man City plays with incredible intensity but also at an otherworldly tactical/technical level. As they say, maximal effort is the minimum requirement. TBF, most of the players are still in pre-season form as the NWSL has not yet started.
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I agree with your premise, but you can't compare a national team with a club team.

Man City, your example (prob best club team in the world), have had the same manager (best in the world) for 8 straight years, during which time, he has spent $1B on players that he wants to suit and mold into his style / team etc. He gets to work with them every day and they have to conform to what he wants or they are done.
 
crush said:
I don't think the players are ready or playing with the passion to be #1. Something is very off. When I watch top college teams play, they play with pride and leave it all on the field. I don't see that with some of these players. I'm not saying the college game is being played the right way, I'm referring to ganas and passion.
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I’ve read a lot opine about individualistic play Vs team play being an issue for US Soccer (and scouting such players) as other national teams catch up to the US with better skilled players. … that you see this now in youth pipeline and it needs to be addressed or we will see more losses in the future. That’s some commentary I’ve seen floating around for what it’s worth.
 
Shooting Star said:
I’ve read a lot opine about individualistic play Vs team play being an issue for US Soccer (and scouting such players) as other national teams catch up to the US with better skilled players. … that you see this now in youth pipeline and it needs to be addressed or we will see more losses in the future. That’s some commentary I’ve seen floating around for what it’s worth.
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Watch an average women's college soccer game sometime.

After you do you'll know exactly why the USWNT is falling behind.
 
Shooting Star said:
I’ve read a lot opine about individualistic play Vs team play being an issue for US Soccer (and scouting such players) as other national teams catch up to the US with better skilled players. … that you see this now in youth pipeline and it needs to be addressed or we will see more losses in the future. That’s some commentary I’ve seen floating around for what it’s worth.
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Yes. We need players that make other players better on the field. What we have now is mostly a group of players that make themselves look good against weaker teams.

Currently in youth national team and Club Soccer selection process, we have this problem too. We don't look at players that make the team better while they are on the field, we just look at individual players. We also need players with different styles to play against different opponents as needed.
 
Carlsbad7 said:
Watch an average women's college soccer game sometime.

After you do you'll know exactly why the USWNT is falling behind.
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yeah, college destroys the players. They'll eventually panic and force through an academy system like Europe has done (though it will probably be even more half-assed than the men's). They panicking yet? At least the frustration is finally becoming palpable.
 
sockma said:
Yes. We need players that make other players better on the field. What we have now is mostly a group of players that make themselves look good against weaker teams.

Currently in youth national team and Club Soccer selection process, we have this problem too. We don't look at players that make the team better while they are on the field, we just look at individual players. We also need players with different styles to play against different opponents as needed.
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We get what we scout for. If the scouts consistently reward highlight reel dribbling against weak opponents, that’s what we’ll have.

Part of the difficulty is that dribbling is just easier to see. Dribble past three people, and the whole sideline sees it. Another player can send five consecutive passes to poorly covered teammates, and it looks like she didn’t do anything.
 
Zeke said:
We get what we scout for. If the scouts consistently reward highlight reel dribbling against weak opponents, that’s what we’ll have.

Part of the difficulty is that dribbling is just easier to see. Dribble past three people, and the whole sideline sees it. Another player can send five consecutive passes to poorly covered teammates, and it looks like she didn’t do anything.
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^^ This 1000 times. ^^

The US has some fantasic mids who enjoy having 80% passing accuracy and assisting.. and they can score too.
But most of the YNT end up with with lots of forwards and attaking mids being converted to other positions.
 
Zeke said:
We get what we scout for. If the scouts consistently reward highlight reel dribbling against weak opponents, that’s what we’ll have. 20%

Part of the difficulty is that dribbling is just easier to see. Dribble past three people, and the whole sideline sees it. Another player can send five consecutive passes to poorly covered teammates, and it looks like she didn’t do anything.
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I think 1v1 should be 20% of the requirement but 40% should be how often and how well a player can move the ball forward to teammates and help create chances for their team. When playing against tough teams, the ability to repeatedly create opportunities for your team is more important than anything else because the team with the most chances to score will also most likely win. A player that can do this against tough competition can think quickly solve problems in tough games.

The ability to play in the defensive third, regardless of position, should be just as vital.

We see a lot of players who are only good when they receive the ball but unable to defend against tough teams.

What a player can do against an easy team shouldn't be considered at all.
 
pmgrant72 said:
The team selection is totally off. For instance, why is Becky Sauerbrunn starting as a 38 yo CB when we should be building for the future at the beginning of a WC cycle? Perhaps, we are just in a holding pattern waiting for the new coach but selecting the same players who have already had their time (and been very successful) is not a good look. I don't think it is an either/or in terms of ganas v. game smarts. Man City plays with incredible intensity but also at an otherworldly tactical/technical level. As they say, maximal effort is the minimum requirement. TBF, most of the players are still in pre-season form as the NWSL has not yet started.
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Sauerbrunn, Dunn and Dahlkemper are all 30 and up. Time to let Girma, Davidson and whomever else take the reins. For that matter, put Naeher in that group.
 
Slobodan said:
Sauerbrunn, Dunn and Dahlkemper are all 30 and up. Time to let Girma, Davidson and whomever else take the reins. For that matter, put Naeher in that group.
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Among those, Dunn is the only one who I thought played well. She defended 1v1 well and created several opportunities on offense. She did get beat a couple of times, but was QUICK to recover.

But I agree regarding the others. To my eye, Sauerbrunn and Dalhkemper did very little. And I will add Sonnett, Rodman, and Smith to that same list.
 
SurfSupDude said:
Among those, Dunn is the only one who I thought played well. She defended 1v1 well and created several opportunities on offense. She did get beat a couple of times, but was QUICK to recover.

But I agree regarding the others. To my eye, Sauerbrunn and Dalhkemper did very little. And I will add Sonnett, Rodman, and Smith to that same list.
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I think the problem with Dunn is she doesn't want to be a defender. She's athletic and fierce, though, which I'm not sure I'd use as labels for the other 2, but Dunn wants to be a striker. Sauerbrunn is a player I like but everybody gets old.
 
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