2016-1017 GIRLS HIGH SCHOOL SOCCER THREAD

outside! said:
Last night was the first time I saw the two refs at a HS game arguing with each other across the field on a call. It was hard to hear from the top of the stands, but I heard lots of "wah, wah, ... don't tell me how to ref... wah, wah..". This was very near the beginning of the game. The officiating didn't get much better from there. At least the KUSI camera man didn't put them in the highlights of the All Sport Report on the 10 o'clock news.
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Which game?
 
The Los Al Edison game was filmed by Los Al TV but nowhere to be found on the 'net. Los Al will go deep in playoffs.
 
outside! said:
http://www.kusi.com/clip/13033760/11617-girls-soccer-university-city-2-valhalla-0
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Good win.

That is a big referee no-no. If the two referees disagree they need to come together and talk quietly. Or, one of them needs to bite their tongue until halftime and have a quiet conversation between the two of them. There are numerous reasons that I may yell across the field at my partner, but agreeing with them is not one of them. Knowing the two coaches involved, I am sure one of them will contact the referee association.

Just curious, what type of call were they arguing over?
 
Surfref said:
Good win.

That is a big referee no-no. If the two referees disagree they need to come together and talk quietly. Or, one of them needs to bite their tongue until halftime and have a quiet conversation between the two of them. There are numerous reasons that I may yell across the field at my partner, but agreeing with them is not one of them. Knowing the two coaches involved, I am sure one of them will contact the referee association.

Just curious, what type of call were they arguing over?
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To be honest, I couldn't hear very well and I was not sure what happened. Play restarted with a free kick, but I don't know if it was direct or indirect. I think all the players were somewhat amused by it. The only ones that seemed to be upset were the home team high school boys watching from the stands, but part of their job description is yelling at the refs so the parents can seem somewhat dignified.
 
Wow, both the mighty Los Al and Huntington Beach fall yesterday...Huntington Loses to Newport Harbor (but it was just a matter of time before Newport put another W on the board) but Los Al loss to Fountain Valley is unexpected. This is good news for Edison as it puts them 2.5 games ahead of both teams in the Sunset League. Go Chargers!!
 
gkrent said:
Wow, both the mighty Los Al and Huntington Beach fall yesterday...Huntington Loses to Newport Harbor (but it was just a matter of time before Newport put another W on the board) but Los Al loss to Fountain Valley is unexpected. This is good news for Edison as it puts them 2.5 games ahead of both teams in the Sunset League. Go Chargers!!
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Look out for FV!
 
And Edison Clinches the Sunset League title in a nail biter against Los Alamitos! Goal scored on a set piece in the last 30 seconds of 2nd OT! What a way for the seniors to go out! Los Alamitos will go deep in the playoffs!
 
gkrent said:
And Edison Clinches the Sunset League title in a nail biter against Los Alamitos! Goal scored on a set piece in the last 30 seconds of 2nd OT! What a way for the seniors to go out! Los Alamitos will go deep in the playoffs!
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Sunset has some good players in it. Only problem I have is why mandatory OT in tied games? Draws are part of league soccer.
 
futboldad1 said:
Sunset has some good players in it. Only problem I have is why mandatory OT in tied games? Draws are part of league soccer.
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2OT's is how they do it in college before it is a draw. I like it. For two teams to tie they have to slug it out for 110 minutes.
 
MakeAPlay said:
2OT's is how they do it in college before it is a draw. I like it. For two teams to tie they have to slug it out for 110 minutes.
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All good, just for me personally I'm not a fan of it as it becomes survival of the fittest...which is the motto of too many college programs from what I've witnessed :)
 
futboldad1 said:
All good, just for me personally I'm not a fan of it as it becomes survival of the fittest...which is the motto of too many college programs from what I've witnessed :)
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Hey I agree that too many colleges rely on things other than good soccer in their games. From what I have seen, most college teams play 15-18 players. Occasionally you will see a team like North Carolina that will go 20 players deep (they do hockey line changes). I have also seen teams use only 12 or 13 players so fitness is the name of the game (girls are running 5-9 miles a game!). High school soccer is a game of superstars IMHO. Most of the players are average to bad anyway so I didn't really see too many aesthetically pleasing games anyway and my player played in the Southern Section in Division 1.

At the end of the day high school is a decent approximation of college even more that club due to the mixed ages and various dynamics. Good luck to you and your player.
 
futboldad1 said:
Sunset has some good players in it. Only problem I have is why mandatory OT in tied games? Draws are part of league soccer.
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For the last several years the Golden West league here in OC has not only had 2 full 10-minute overtimes but then goes to kicks from the penalty mark to resolve ties in varsity girls games. Teams get 3 points for a win, 2 points for a draw but winning via KFTM and 1 point for a draw but losing KFTM. The GW girls is the only league here in OC that goes to KFTM; the varsity boys games in the GW league only do 2 full 10-minute overtimes.

My understanding from conversations with GW girls coaches is that this approach was adopted because previously there had been many ties in league standings due to many tie games and that created issues with determining CIF playoff entries, which I believe were probably resolved by coin flips.
 
twoclubpapa said:
For the last several years the Golden West league here in OC has not only had 2 full 10-minute overtimes but then goes to kicks from the penalty mark to resolve ties in varsity girls games. Teams get 3 points for a win, 2 points for a draw but winning via KFTM and 1 point for a draw but losing KFTM. The GW girls is the only league here in OC that goes to KFTM; the varsity boys games in the GW league only do 2 full 10-minute overtimes.

My understanding from conversations with GW girls coaches is that this approach was adopted because previously there had been many ties in league standings due to many tie games and that created issues with determining CIF playoff entries, which I believe were probably resolved by coin flips.
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Palomar League in San Diego Section (and I believe other Leagues in North County Conference) use as a tie-breaker the head-to-head games between the teams, and if that is one win apiece, the winner of the last game. Two ties goes to a coin flip. The tied teams are all allowed to declare themselves as "Palomar League Co-champions" but CIF SDS wants a single team to be nominated as league champs since that team is guaranteed a spot in the playoffs, and usually an opening-round home game (unless paired with another team with equal privilege).
 
Hart Tribe wins Foothill for 4th straight year. (these ladies have not lost a league game in 4 years). I guess with the new CIF rules, their grand prize is a bump up to Div I in the playoffs. They've always gone super deep into the playoffs (my dd's freshman year they played in the championship for Div II). Go Tribe!
 
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