2016-1017 GIRLS HIGH SCHOOL SOCCER THREAD

LadiesMan217 said:
Hart has been Div 1 all season...

http://cifss.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Girls-Soccer-Power-Ranking-as-of-10-27-16.pdf
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Actually Hart played Div 2 conference schedule, but because they have done well the last 2 years. They are bracketed in the D1 CIF playoffs this year. West Ranch HS is in the same conference as Hart and they are D2.
http://www.maxpreps.com/m/team/info...4d3-ab36-4d6b-9bb7-ebaa61589cff&season=winter

My DDs school is D5 and they have finished semi's and finalists the last 2 years in D5 CIF playoffs and this year are playing D4 CIF playoffs.

The power rankings shows what playoff bracket schools will be playing in.
 
NoGoal said:
Actually Hart played Div 2 conference schedule, but because they have done well the last 2 years. They are bracketed in the D1 CIF playoffs this year. West Ranch HS is in the same conference as Hart and they are D2.
http://www.maxpreps.com/m/team/info...4d3-ab36-4d6b-9bb7-ebaa61589cff&season=winter

My DDs school is D5 and they have finished semi's and finalists the last 2 years in D5 CIF playoffs and this year are playing D4 CIF playoffs.

The power rankings shows what playoff bracket schools will be playing in.
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Regardless of the conference schedule, on 10/27/2016 Hart was reclassified as a D1 team for the 2016/2017 season. http://www.socalsoccer.org/News/CIF+Divisional+Lists+for+2016-17/. Yes, West Ranch is D2. :)
 
gkrent said:
The what would Sunset league be? 3 teams in D1 and 2 teams in D2
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IMO, the new bracketing is hokey. Take my DDs school they are a high D4 ranking, but compete against D5 schools. When they get to the playoffs, they won't be ready to play D4 competition. Same can be said for Hart playing D2/D3 schools and then thrown into D1 bracket at playoffs.

That's like a D2 college team being bracketed to play D1 playoffs, because they have done well the last 2 seasons.

Instead realign and relegate/promote the schools to fit their HS program divisional level. Example: my DDs school was dropped from D1 to D5 2 years ago.
 
NoGoal said:
IMO, the new bracketing is hokey. Take my DDs school they are a high D4 ranking, but compete against D5 schools. When they get to the playoffs, they won't be ready to play D4 competition. Same can be said for Hart playing D2/D3 schools and then thrown into D1 bracket at playoffs.

That's like a D2 college team being bracketed to play D1 playoffs, because they have done well the last 2 seasons.

Instead realign and relegate/promote the schools to fit their HS program divisional level. Example: my DDs school was dropped from D1 to D5 2 years ago.
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What about the D2 teams that rocked the D1 teams all season and playing in D2 playoffs :). None of it matters.
 
NoGoal said:
IMO, the new bracketing is hokey. Take my DDs school they are a high D4 ranking, but compete against D5 schools. When they get to the playoffs, they won't be ready to play D4 competition. Same can be said for Hart playing D2/D3 schools and then thrown into D1 bracket at playoffs.

That's like a D2 college team being bracketed to play D1 playoffs, because they have done well the last 2 seasons.

Instead realign and relegate/promote the schools to fit their HS program divisional level. Example: my DDs school was dropped from D1 to D5 2 years ago.
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I would also add, if a higher divisional school is competing against lower level schools in league. The higher ranked school will have a greater probability of making CIF playoffs and vice versa, since playoffs are based on league results.
 
LadiesMan217 said:
What about the D2 teams that rocked the D1 teams all season and playing in D2 playoffs :). None of it matters.
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I believe divisional rankings are based on student body size. If a D2 team has a great season and gets to the CIF D2 semi's or championship game. They will eventually play against D1 schools at regional playoffs.
 
NoGoal said:
I believe divisional rankings are based on student body size. If a D2 team has a great season and gets to the CIF D2 semi's or championship game. They will eventually play against D1 schools at regional playoffs.
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Yeah, but all the talent is going to DA and not playing HS soccer next year - hahaha.
 
NoGoal said:
I would also add, if a higher divisional school is competing against lower level schools in league. The higher ranked school will have a greater probability of making CIF playoffs and vice versa, since playoffs are based on league results.
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Pre-season does count into overall record, that's why some coaches play lower level schools to pad their overall record.
 
HBE said:
Pre-season does count into overall record, that's why some coaches play lower level schools to pad their overall record.
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The leagues are now mixed with D1 and D2 teams, D3 and D4 teams and D4 and D5 teams. It has nothing to do with pre-season or non-league games.
 
NoGoal said:
The leagues are now mixed with D1 and D2 teams, D3 and D4 teams and D4 and D5 teams. It has nothing to do with pre-season or non-league games.
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I disagree, are you a high school coach? Do you deal with CIF? Pre-season games matter for at large bids, trust me on this one.....
 
HBE said:
I disagree, are you a high school coach? Do you deal with CIF? Pre-season games matter for at large bids, trust me on this one.....
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You mean non-conference/non-league games. Pre-season games are like scrimmages. They don't count for anything. Example: NFL, NBA, MLB pre-season games do NOT count on actual team records.
 
NoGoal said:
I believe divisional rankings are based on student body size. If a D2 team has a great season and gets to the CIF D2 semi's or championship game. They will eventually play against D1 schools at regional playoffs.
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Yep, I thought it was based on student body size a well. Hart has been Div. II for as long as I can recall. 4 yrs. ago we went to the Div. II championship game vs. Chino Hills. Lost a close one but still ended up going to Regionals. It was exciting. Some of the schools were double our size. I still think of Hart as a Div II school that has been rewarded for playing extremely well for the past 4 years. Good luck to everyone in the first round of games! Go Tribe.
 
Silny said:
Yep, I thought it was based on student body size a well. Hart has been Div. II for as long as I can recall. 4 yrs. ago we went to the Div. II championship game vs. Chino Hills. Lost a close one but still ended up going to Regionals. It was exciting. Some of the schools were double our size. I still think of Hart as a Div II school that has been rewarded for playing extremely well for the past 4 years. Good luck to everyone in the first round of games! Go Tribe.
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Size doesn't matter to CIF :)
 
The way it was explained to me was that pre season games do matter. The coach wanted to play teams scored at .500 or higher because somehow that would help the power score or some mumbo jumbo number that would come in to play for cif games. Team usually plays other local schools but their number was in the 200's so instead they played other schools for pre season. My number examples can be wrong because this conversation was back in november but it was something to that effect. This all had to do with the new rules/regulations/way for hs soccer. I think in the past divisions were based on school size but this new way is all about that .500 score.
 
LBSoccer said:
The way it was explained to me was that pre season games do matter. The coach wanted to play teams scored at .500 or higher because somehow that would help the power score or some mumbo jumbo number that would come in to play for cif games. Team usually plays other local schools but their number was in the 200's so instead they played other schools for pre season. My number examples can be wrong because this conversation was back in november but it was something to that effect. This all had to do with the new rules/regulations/way for hs soccer. I think in the past divisions were based on school size but this new way is all about that .500 score.
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Thanks for explaining. You mean non-league games and not pre-season, correct? Non-league games are games played prior to league/conference games.

example: HS tournament games are non-league/conference games and played during the HS soccer season.
 
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