justabystander
BRONZE
Absolutely agree with you. The word used is clubs, not teams. However, it is still misleading; and even then it is not the top 64 clubs in the country.
How's that Elite 64 League going?
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Absolutely agree with you. The word used is clubs, not teams. However, it is still misleading; and even then it is not the top 64 clubs in the country.
I don't know anything about this league and what club teams are in it and how good the competition is. I do have a neighbor who's daughter plays on a team in this league and they recently went to an out of state league showcase. I looked at the college coaches attending for the girls as I do for most of the "exclusive" league showcases and elite 64 Florida had more colleges attending the girls side than ECRL and DPL have had at their showcases. Neither of those leagues had many if any division 1 schools which is expected. those schools use their resources for ECNL, GA, and open showcases like Surf and Silverlakes. Just thought it was interesting. Pretty decent turn-out as far as number of colleges for those girls at that elite 64 showcase.
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That is good for all those who attended. As I believe this is the first E64 Showcase, the important question is: Will those D1 coaches attend future/additional E64 events? Did they like what they saw, or were they disappointed with the league like many others have been? It will be interesting and telling to keep an eye on which coaching staffs attended and return.
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Decided to take a look at the E64 page because I haven't heard much about the League lately. The premise was to have 64 of the best clubs in the country, and cap at 64. I was poking fun last year and calling it the Elite 52, because the girls side only had 52 clubs. This year they expanded to 72, So I guess they threw out the 64 best clubs idea after the inaugural year. Now we can call it the Elite 72. Also they created an E64 RL for the clubs second tier teams and brought in 54 clubs. I think they better brainstorm a better name, and drop the E64. Here we go again, more dispersion of players, more travel, so we can play teams at the same level as local leagues. We (sports parents) really are stupid.
RandomSoccerFan
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The number 64 isn't the only misleading thing in their name. They could drop the word "Elite" and it would be more accurate. But then again, it seems the word "Elite" is used more often that the word "soccer" when describing youth soccer teams/leagues, so E64 isn't hardly the only place guilty of that. They could rename it the "Very Good 72" but that doesn't have a great ring. If I were naming it, I would go with the "72 teams league filled with hard-working and determined players that should be very proud of themselves for playing on very good teams even though their families, clubs and/or geographic locations don't have the vast financial resources of clubs like Surf & Solar in the wealthy suburbs."
And then ECNL could change its name to "MECNL - Mostly Elite Clubs National League"
algomez619
BRONZE
Having played in ECRL/ECNL for almost three years (G09) and now doing E64 I can tell you that middle of the table and up teams can compete very well with any ECRL/ECNL team. The bottom tier teams are the same in all these leagues. I recall ECNL parents saying the game pace in ECNL was faster and competition stronger but it's actually very similar. As for travel, it just sucks in all these leagues. I would focus on getting your player on a team with a good coach who bases playing time on your player's performance (in practices and on the field) and where she/he feels playing in that team is helping with their development and growth. So far so good for us.
SurfSupDude
SILVER
Bold statement.
Although it’s only two games:
• G10 East County Surf E64 beat G10 SD Surf ECRL 2-1 earlier this summer, and
• G10 East County Surf E64 beat G10 SD Surf NPL 2-0 last month
Neither SD Surf G10 ECRL nor SD Surf G10 NPL are remotely close to SD Surf G10 ECNL.
Where will East County Surf E64 finish on their table?
RandomSoccerFan
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Here's what E64 teams look like for CA, by year:
RandomSoccerFan
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Here's what RL teams look like for CA, by year:
RandomSoccerFan
PREMIER
Here's what ECNL teams look like for CA, by year:
RandomSoccerFan
PREMIER
This seems to be quite a stretch if it's intended to apply to teams in California.
RandomSoccerFan
PREMIER
I'd instead read that info as - the very top E64 teams would likely do just fine in RL, but would struggle against any strong ECNL team. A "middle of the table" E64 team might compete with a "middle of the table" RL team, but it would come down much more to which specific team being used to compare. No "middle of the table" E64 team would be expected to have any luck against all but the weakest ECNL teams.
Frank
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In my view, except for the #1 team in E64 they struggle against top half of NPL teams
On a top 4 SW ECRL team and scrimmaged an E64 team a year older in preparation for them going to nationals last summer. Wasn't even close. We beat them 3-0, 2-1 and 4-0. From what I have seen E64 is not that close to ECRL.
algomez619
BRONZE
If you want to define a league by three friendlies go ahead. There are plenty of examples where E64 teams have faired very well with top ECNL/ECRL teams. I'm just saying there are options out there that will also help your kid grow and develop while also playing very competitively.
RandomSoccerFan
PREMIER
With plenty of examples, that should be easy to demonstrate, right? Why not post 2-3 instances of what you're talking about?
From what I have seen the E64 teams are composed of players that either can't make the ECNL/ECRL teams or don't want to travel. They are super teams made from local leagues. But the talent just isn't there. All the kids that plan to play after HS and take the sport seriously are in letter leagues and the E64 is made up of what is left. they come from big clubs but their 3rd or 4th best teams for the age group.
Highlander
SILVER ELITE
Mostly true but some exceptions where there are no ECNL/GA teams... That said, you could also say half the ECNL teams are made up of left overs too! Pretty sad how many 5-0, 6-0, etc ECNL games there are.
So which of the biggest clubs ( E64 means elite 64 clubs in USA) don't have ECNL or GA? Only one i can think of would be AYSO itself but the talent level there .. well at least in AZ is not so good. 99% of the good players for AYSO Challenge or whatever it is called now get scooped up by clubs.
Looking at Soccer Rankings not seeing any E64 teams in top 20 anywhere
Paying Club fees to play AYSO teams? Doesn't sound too ELITE. lol