10% discount if you pay in full. I did that one year and then our coach left.
SoCal Elite - exit stage left
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100%. It's a huge distraction on everyone involved. My dd was recruited for over 8 months one year. The Doc recruiting her would show up to watch our games all the time. Our coach told the team to disregard the old man and his side kick and focus on winning The State Cup. Well, my dd already committed to the old man and his club and when asked by coach before State Cup, "are you thinking of leaving to join the old man? I can't lie bro so I told coach we already committed to the old man for next year but we will finish what we started and go for the gold at State Cup. My dd did her best but freaking Carlsbad Lightning beat us in quarter finals in OT. If I could do it all over again, I would just tell coach nothing and tell her let's talk after State Cup. She lost a Pac 12 player as well that year. I say not contacts or tryouts with other teams players under after The Cup.
What about Sunday scrimmages at the park put on by a Doc of another competitive club? No tryout, just go play soccer games. Doc and side kick ref the games and everyone has fun. Phone calls if you made next years team go out when open season starts. The top coaches watch the the top players all season so they know who they want.
All this reminds me of the Insurance business and the agents book of business. Top Coach(s) &n club, usually brothers or close family members that worked their asses off to build their brand over years and years. They build up to 100 teams ((book of business)) and that is not easy to do. We need regulation and promotion. Rules are made to be followed and obeyed, not broken. I feel bad for the players and the parents who pay to play their kids in the great game.
The Blues Glue to success is their scouting and recruiting. They watch top players perform all season and then bring all those top players together for Sunday Scrimmages at the Great Parks in OC. The coach can then ref and watch the top top players play against each other and that is how you separate the top goats from the other goats. I was always "HOT" with my dd Docs and her coaches. HOT= Honest, Open and Transparent. Yes, my hotness hurt my dd chances at times but we both sleep well at night and we both value and love our sleep.
Not for the club. This is where you find players for the "B" and "C" team and this right here is the sauce to keep the lights on, have nice fields and hire top coaches and top Doc. I also know some great players who were on the "C" team in 6th grade and now that "C" player starts on a Power 5 college team.
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It's an affiliate. LAFC isn't organized like many of the other clubs. LAFC is primarily concerned with recruiting and developing their academy. The other big superclubs (TFA, Surf, even So Cal Elite) built their systems by absorbing smaller clubs that wanted to play SoCal into their system (and providing them the backroom support as well). That's one of the reasons supposedly the LA Galaxy got out of the affiliates game....it was too much work to police the affiliates (everything from sexual harassment training to making sure recruiting is above boards) for what they got (a few kids and families becoming Galaxy fans while everyone else who didn't like them left with a bad taste in their mouth). I was frankly surprised when Real So Cal (which had a big backroom operation and a name which had been around for ever and already dominance over the west val) jumped on it (and why LAFC would want them, since they were ECNL). There has to be some reason for it but I've always scratched my head. In any case, this looks to be the East Valley affiliate.
I concur.
I feel like season should run fall to fall, not spring to spring.
So tryouts late summer, then fall season to gel with new teammates, play some winter tournaments along the way, then state cup, then at the height of team's chemistry, play the big summer tournaments... then some down time and try outs again...
I don't understand the current set up:
team gets assembled spring/summer, play a bunch of tournaments with a new team, play fall league, tryouts during middle of fall league, play state cup knowing some kids won't stay..
Agreed.
While it's a waste of time for trying to get on that ONE spot left open on the top team via a large club wide tryout as a player... but for the club, having 50-60 kids showing up to tryout is a lot of potential customers coming on to their turf... the coaches and DOC will make some speeches about how "we develop the best players here" "other clubs only care about winning" "we have a PATH to blah blah blah"
Even if they won't join a team... now they're on an email list for camps, future tryouts, etc. $$$
If paid via credit card, submit a dispute/chargeback with the credit card company... It'll most likely be successful
I complained about big tryouts before. But it makes perfect sense why they did what they did. This is where big clubs have the advantage in keeping their first team together. They are not affected by 1-2 kids leaving because they can always call up kids from their second team. There are two type of players trying out for new teams. One is those who are truly unhappy and the other is those whose team lost players and is no longer competitive at the level last fall.Agreed.
While it's a waste of time for trying to get on that ONE spot left open on the top team via a large club wide tryout as a player... but for the club, having 50-60 kids showing up to tryout is a lot of potential customers coming on to their turf... the coaches and DOC will make some speeches about how "we develop the best players here" "other clubs only care about winning" "we have a PATH to blah blah blah"
Even if they won't join a team... now they're on an email list for camps, future tryouts, etc. $$$
Everyone needs to commit to 12 months with transfer rules and a time to leave and join greener pasture or stay and play another year and current club. If everyone is honest and no retaliation threats of being black balled and black listed is gone, then let truth and honesty rules the day. Thanks to all of you for your PMs of encouragement.
I see this one was tweeked FYI to bring it more into line with the policy: seems like there may be a bit of jumping the gun.
It interesting. Technically the tryout policy could be read to prohibit advertisement (put up prior to the window) about future tryouts (to take place within the correct window). It's not clear, but the boards are currently awash with teams beginning to advertise their mid February tryouts.
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rainbow_unicorn
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Current set up is based on allowing age groups to complete state cup before opening up tryouts and forming new teams. I believe this is why SOCAL is enforcing their new tryouts dates rule...in order to stop the trend where players were jumping ship from their team prior to state cup and state cup having to deal with teams that didn't have enough players.
Current setup does make sense as it also allows for tryouts to be staggered out across age groups. Most clubs probably would not be able to handle the logistics of having all age groups try out at the same time.
Dale Earnhardt Jr Jr
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Best post in the history of this site.
"Clubs and teams CAN NOT hold training sessions, clinics, kick-arounds, camps, festivals (whatever name you give it) for players OUTSIDE of your club AT ANY TIME prior to the publicized tryout dates. "
If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck... What gets enforced is a different matter.
With a broad draw like your describing, all it takes is one parent who's kid didn't get an offer to make a phone call to create a problem for the DOC and his/her club. Charge $20 per head and call it a clinic "that generates revenue for the club" and it's a different story altogether. Bearing that in mind is why I think someone in this situation that started this thread was oblivious or simply DGAF.
Because you’ve been here for years.
DO if I recall moved this club when Roy Lassiter was running it from OC/SD for similar issues I think.
Yes. Please. Look this up.