President Joe Biden

espola said:
I'm expecting a replay of Hillary's testimony about Benghazi, where nothing was proven except for the power of Congress to make political hay out of nothing.
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Yes but those were earnest efforts to get to the truth!
“Everybody thought Hillary Clinton was unbeatable, right? But we put together a Benghazi special committee, a select committee. What are her numbers today? Her numbers are dropping. Why? Because she’s untrustable. But no one would have known any of that had happened, had we not fought.”- the quiet part out loud.
 
watfly said:
That's disingenuous about Hunter running and you know it. Hutchinson wasn't running for office and they still called her and she testified. Hunter is a much more material witness to Biden's potential conflicts of interest with China and Ukraine than Hutchinson is as 2nd and 3rd hand witness of Trump's tantrums. A 2nd hand report of Trump throwing his lunch is as relevant as video of Hunter's sex life. Interesting how your opinion morphed from the SS should be called to its really not that important.

Never said that I didn't want to know what happened. I've actually watched a lot of it. I just want it from reliable first hand accounts. I want facts not spectacle, but my background is in litigation support and not entertainment. The fact that its a kangaroo court is why there is not much interest from moderate thinking people to follow it while hard R's completely ignore it and lefties drink it up like nectar from heaven. It's partisan TV at it's worst.
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You had said you didn't want a 'tit for tat' when Republican's take over in 6 months. Guess to my POV, Trump was joking about hanging his VP Mike Pence. And he liked Pence. So I don't know if a tit for tat (whereby Hunter stays out of the news) is necessary avoidable?
 
Lion Eyes said:
I don't think he can.
He has a weak, way left cabinet that is not in line with most American's.
He needs to return to the middle and lead from that position and stop blaming others for his missteps and policy folly.
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Ugh. Deep down on the inside there is a part of me that is afraid you're right. His admin seems to be adrift...

He's spent months wooing the far left and they still keep him at an arm's length. Which has ruined his brand so now moderates hold him at an arm's length. And then when I think of scenarios where he wins reelection it always involves something along the lines of the far left and moderate republican's negotiating out workable lasting solutions to the many real issues facing the nation.

He just don't have the tools to pull something like that off. Nor does his team.
 
tenacious said:
Ugh. Deep down on the inside there is a part of me that is afraid you're right. His admin seems to be adrift...

He's spent months wooing the far left and they still keep him at an arm's length. Which has ruined his brand so now moderates hold him at an arm's length. And then when I think of scenarios where he wins reelection it always involves something along the lines of the far left and moderate republican's negotiating out workable lasting solutions to the many real issues facing the nation.

He just don't have the tools to pull something like that off. Nor does his team.
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As best I can tell his team thinks its a messaging problem, I'm fairly confident that's not the problem.
 
watfly said:
As best I can tell his team thinks its a messaging problem, I'm fairly confident that's not the problem.
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this was a funny article . Why does the administration care about the opinions of a d-list celebrity Debra Messing


www.cnn.com

After string of Supreme Court setbacks, Democrats wonder whether Biden White House is capable of urgency moment demands

Debra Messing was fed up. The former "Will & Grace" star was among dozens of celebrity Democratic supporters and activists who joined a call with White House aides last Monday to discuss the Supreme Court overturning Roe v. Wade.
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Brav520 said:
this was a funny article . Why does the administration care about the opinions of a d-list celebrity Debra Messing


www.cnn.com

After string of Supreme Court setbacks, Democrats wonder whether Biden White House is capable of urgency moment demands

Debra Messing was fed up. The former "Will & Grace" star was among dozens of celebrity Democratic supporters and activists who joined a call with White House aides last Monday to discuss the Supreme Court overturning Roe v. Wade.
www.cnn.com www.cnn.com
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A lot of Dems love to suck up to celebrities (see Eric Adams for most recent example). 1) non-serious politicians love the attention and the perks of rubbing elbows with celebrities and 2) celebrities have powerful reach and uninformed voters are suckers for a celebrity opinion. Plus elites and celebrities tend to occupy the same air space and echo chamber. They're far removed from people with everyday problems despite the fact they think they know what is best for everyone.
 
watfly said:
A lot of Dems love to suck up to celebrities (see Eric Adams for most recent example). 1) non-serious politicians love the attention and the perks of rubbing elbows with celebrities and 2) celebrities have powerful reach and uninformed voters are suckers for a celebrity opinion. Plus elites and celebrities tend to occupy the same air space and echo chamber. They're far removed from people with everyday problems despite the fact they think they know what is best for everyone.
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Trump loved it as well , so not exclusively a dem thing

but, Debra Messing , I mean who cares about her , what actual influence does a late 90s sitcom star actually have
 
Brav520 said:
Trump loved it as well , so not exclusively a dem thing

but, Debra Messing , I mean who cares about her , what actual influence does a late 90s sitcom star actually have
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True, but Trump was more a celebrity himself particularly with The Apprentice gig and was in those circles pre-politician. Not that it really matters. Of course, Reagan was an actor. Non-serious politicians from either party seem to think celebrities give the credibility for some reason.

Debra Messing is a head scratcher. Apparently Danny Bonaduce wasn't available?
 
Oil from U.S. reserves sent overseas as gasoline prices stay high

HOUSTON, July 5 (Reuters) - More than 5 million barrels of oil that were part of a historic U.S. emergency reserves release to lower domestic fuel prices were exported to Europe and Asia last month, according to data and sources, even as U.S. gasoline and diesel prices hit record highs.

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Oil from U.S. reserves sent overseas as gasoline prices stay high

More than 5 million barrels of oil that were part of a historic U.S. emergency reserves release to lower domestic fuel prices were exported to Europe and Asia last month, according to data and sources, even as U.S. gasoline and diesel prices hit record highs.
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Brav520 said:
Trump loved it as well , so not exclusively a dem thing

but, Debra Messing , I mean who cares about her , what actual influence does a late 90s sitcom star actually have
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Idk. In all fairness, is she more or less qualified to talk on politics than Sean Hannity or Rachel Maddow? Seems to me whatever their qualifications are... it's not much above 90's sitcoms star.
 
watfly said:
A lot of Dems love to suck up to celebrities (see Eric Adams for most recent example). 1) non-serious politicians love the attention and the perks of rubbing elbows with celebrities and 2) celebrities have powerful reach and uninformed voters are suckers for a celebrity opinion. Plus elites and celebrities tend to occupy the same air space and echo chamber. They're far removed from people with everyday problems despite the fact they think they know what is best for everyone.
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Some, not all.
 
watfly said:
True, but Trump was more a celebrity himself particularly with The Apprentice gig and was in those circles pre-politician. Not that it really matters. Of course, Reagan was an actor. Non-serious politicians from either party seem to think celebrities give the credibility for some reason.

Debra Messing is a head scratcher. Apparently Danny Bonaduce wasn't available?
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Celebrities are also donors and can raise large amounts of money.
 
watfly said:
A lot of Dems love to suck up to celebrities (see Eric Adams for most recent example). 1) non-serious politicians love the attention and the perks of rubbing elbows with celebrities and 2) celebrities have powerful reach and uninformed voters are suckers for a celebrity opinion. Plus elites and celebrities tend to occupy the same air space and echo chamber. They're far removed from people with everyday problems despite the fact they think they know what is best for everyone.
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I actually am beginning to like Eric Adams. When I hear him speaking he gets the problems... but can he find a way to fix them is still an open question. City and state leaders are what I think can fairly be called looney left and seemed determined to stop him.

As for rubbing elbows? Let's be honest; NYC like Los Angeles have lost a fair amount of their luster now that the progressives have taken over. And you know that's the truth because we can all see from the census data people are moving out. Gavin is trying to counter this narrative by talking about companies moving from Florida to California for abortion rights. Eric Adams is trying to make NYC seem like somewhere cool people want to be.
 
Lion Eyes said:
Oil from U.S. reserves sent overseas as gasoline prices stay high

HOUSTON, July 5 (Reuters) - More than 5 million barrels of oil that were part of a historic U.S. emergency reserves release to lower domestic fuel prices were exported to Europe and Asia last month, according to data and sources, even as U.S. gasoline and diesel prices hit record highs.

www.reuters.com

Oil from U.S. reserves sent overseas as gasoline prices stay high

More than 5 million barrels of oil that were part of a historic U.S. emergency reserves release to lower domestic fuel prices were exported to Europe and Asia last month, according to data and sources, even as U.S. gasoline and diesel prices hit record highs.
www.reuters.com www.reuters.com
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Curious how Ratboy feels about this.
 
tenacious said:
I actually am beginning to like Eric Adams. When I hear him speaking he gets the problems... but can he find a way to fix them is still an open question. City and state leaders are what I think can fairly be called looney left and seemed determined to stop him.

As for rubbing elbows? Let's be honest; NYC like Los Angeles have lost a fair amount of their luster now that the progressives have taken over. And you know that's the truth because we can all see from the census data people are moving out. Gavin is trying to counter this narrative by talking about companies moving from Florida to California for abortion rights. Eric Adams is trying to make NYC seem like somewhere cool people want to be.
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Really? I was cautiously optimistic when he was elected (he was saying all the right things), but he's been a huge disappointment so far, and appears to be more interested in celebrity culture than anything else. Comes across as another "out of touch" politician despite his claims of being a blue collar guy. For him to claim he "was shocked at how bad this place is", is very troubling. What has he done to address the crime problem so far? Wearing a $2,000 tux that says "stop gun crime" doesn't count. It's still early, so I will give him an "incomplete" at this point.

Now in his defense, he's severely hamstrung by DA Bragg. Until New Yorker's get a clue and get rid of Bragg, NYC is going to continue to go down the toilet.
 
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