You're not going to avoid getting it...the only question is when.
Vaccine
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For us mere mortals I think you're right. However, for Dad4, I think he's got a chance at avoiding it, unless he's worn down his immune system from worrying about it.
I have yet to go to a bar that has asked for one……
Desert Hound
DA
The problem with NPR is that they are all to the left. The present the news from one side of the spectrum constantly.
You don't get any nuance from them when they cover any political issues. Their stories come from a certain angle.
Desert Hound
DA
Just get it and be done with it.
Got it early on at the very beginning. Very bad flu like symptoms that lasted weeks.
The most recent one felt off for a day or so.
No real surprise. Not every rule gets enforced. I hear it’s also theoretically illegal to cut the locks on freight cars and help yourself to the contents.
what-happened
GOLD
Now you are putting words in my mounth. Stark difference in prevention of transmission VS prevention of severe disease. Cases mean nothing amongst the healthy population. The vaccines do not prevent transmission...Plenty of data suggests this , just look around. It's here, it's circulating, it may or may not become seasonal. Vaccines aren't going to stop transmission. They will help you survive infection and develop deeper, better immunity for the next time. Maybe next time you may not even know you had it.
The mandate gig is nearly up. If people continue to feel threatened, N95s are on the way.
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what-happened
GOLD
I'm starting to think we have a russian troll farm active in here. It's clear the vaccines aren't preventing spread...has been clear since late summer. That idea alone isn't meant to be anti vax...it's just reality.
While Dad4 thinks the term "gaslighting" is overused, I think its appropriate in this case.
Even StarbucksAND JUST LIKE THAT.....POOF !!!
THE COVID SCAM IS OVER !
No More Lockdowns UK
⚡️BOOOOOMMMM⚡️ Doctor on non emergency helpline advises against Boosters and says they will soon be pulled due to new data coming out! 👀t.me
I'd say that Boris Johnson and a whole lot of elites ( Especially Dr Mengle Fauci ) better
start hiding 24/7 !
Now it's time for a ginned up " War " with Russia..!
Starbucks reverses course on vaccine mandate after Supreme Court ruling
Starbucks said 90% of employees reported vaccination status
www.ny1.com
Thank God. I used to work at Bucks to become a Star some day, but the masks, and all the fear on faces, made me go home and wait this out last year or two. Poor workers. I feel bad for them all. It looks like I will soon be able to go work again. I use my smile and face to push my ideas to people. Hiding behind a mask is impossible.Even Starbucks
Starbucks reverses course on vaccine mandate after Supreme Court ruling
Starbucks said 90% of employees reported vaccination status
It's not private small businesses' responsibility to enforce personal health policy.
What? That's because most who are vaxxed and have mild symptoms don't get tested...then they go around like nothing is wrong and pass it on... for a long time there was a large group of vaxxed that really believed they couldn't get it. Then, when they got sick, all I heard was it's just a little cough or my throat is a little sore and they kept on going out and spreading it all over.
Desert Hound
DA
Actually with the O it doesnt not stop one from getting it or spreading it.
Right now it still seems to help reducing complications.
kickingandscreaming
PREMIER
If the vax doesn’t provide more protection than getting the virus naturally, why require a naturally “immunized” person to have more protection than a vaxed person? Also, how much “benefit” must society get to justify forcing someone to be vaccinated?
People who are vaccinated are less likely to contract the virus than those who are unvaccinated. On top of this, people who are vaccinated are much less likely to end up in the hospital or dead.
I understand your coming at this from an anti-mandate perspective, but it's unclear to me how the above sentences are incorrect when there's so much data supporting those points. I will take data over anecdotes any day of the week.
Are more vaccinated people getting the big O than unvaccinated people? In our county for sure, but that's because we have an incredibly high vaccination rate and it's just a numbers game, but if you look at rates it's not even close. You are significantly more likely get covid if you're unvaccinated....of course, unless, you isolate 100%.
kickingandscreaming
PREMIER
I have to wonder if it’s not because they are having trouble staffing their stores. The last week or so I have been to 3 different Starbucks that closed earlier than normally posted hours. I’m thinking that my idea of mandate support and income loss being negatively correlated may be more than coincidental correlation.Even Starbucks
Starbucks reverses course on vaccine mandate after Supreme Court ruling
Starbucks said 90% of employees reported vaccination status
For what it's worth, I'm not making a case for mandates. I'm making the case that the vaccine is indeed helpful.
I don’t see how you get a 4:1 difference in positive tests without some a significant impact on infection and transmission. Are you arguing that unvaccinated people are equally infected, but 75% less likely to get tested?
If you have an argument, make it. If vaccinated people are equally infected and equally infectious, then why are they not testing positive at the same rate as unvaccinated people?