Vaccine

Basically when you read what the CDC says about surgical masks, they say they are not designed for respiratory illness protection.

"Does not provide the wearer a reliable level of protection from inhaling smaller airborne particles and is not considered respiratory protection".

I would point out on the N95s it requires fit testing. I lay money most people haven't got fit tested.

It also requires a seal check. I lay money most people don't know how to do that.

Why? Because with N95s medical professionals have to be trained how to actually use them.

Anyway....the CDC points out below surgical masks are not intended to be used as protection for a respiratory virus.

But then again for those who have been watching, that info has been in the public domain now for many years.


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Hüsker Dü said:
People have gone through changes/adversity before and been fine. Even children, if their parents are helpful and not self-centered.
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No doubt, but its been clearly illustrated that the less fortunate are the most damaged by the Covid restrictions. This adversity is unnecessary and is being implemented by self-centered adults...adults who put their needs ahead of the needs of children because they fear the virus.
 
Kicker 2.0 said:
No….your EXACT quote, “No, it’s not.” See post #9864.
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Vaccine

You want your 30 year out of date humanities degree to count the same as scientists with 30 years of relevant experience? No. The humanities degree qualifies you to bullshit with confidence, but nothing more. These days experience seems to be irrelevant. Which side you row for appears to...
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watfly said:
One thing I appreciate from these entertainment interviewers like Rogan and Stern is there ability to ask more probing and diverse questions of their guests. I often find those interviews more informative than a traditional news interview where the questions are scripted to support a particular narrative and the guest is less likely to let their guard down. I often watch a news interview and the interviewer doesn't ask the next obvious question because it doesn't fit the narrative or they can't adjust and ask off script questions, even though the question begs to be asked.
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Yeah I'm with you. They're both great interviewers. That said, I still think they know what sells. Stern's political views have contorted drastically over the years in a large part based on him reading his audience. Rogan knows his base eats up his conspiracy and anti-vax BS -- no way he goes back on that...at least not until his listenership changes like it did with Stern.
 
NorCalDad said:
Yeah I'm with you. They're both great interviewers. That said, I still think they know what sells. Stern's political views have contorted drastically over the years in a large part based on him reading his audience. Rogan knows his base eats up his conspiracy and anti-vax BS -- no way he goes back on that...at least not until his listenership changes like it did with Stern.
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No doubt that they exploit what sells (as does any successful entertainer), which in my mind doesn't qualify as a grifter. They are giving customers what they want. I don't know that people feel like they've been swindled listening/watching Rogan and Stern, whereas they would with a grifter (we're probably just talking semantics). Although I do feel swindled sometimes watching traditional news.
 
watfly said:
Things change.


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California extends indoor mask mandate through February 15

California has extended its statewide indoor mask mandate, state health officials announced Wednesday.
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I can’t speak for other parts of the state , but I haven’t seen much in the way of increased masking in San Diego county( north county area ) since the mandates took place .

the old lady at the movie theatre last week was enforcing it , but that’s about the only private business I’ve been in that they had someone enforcing it
 
watfly said:
No doubt, but its been clearly illustrated that the less fortunate are the most damaged by the Covid restrictions. This adversity is unnecessary and is being implemented by self-centered adults...adults who put their needs ahead of the needs of children because they fear the virus.
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@Hüsker Dü's interpretation of "adversity" is likely deeply rooted in the idea of the adversity suffered during the great depression, when it was almost equally distributed and not caused intentionally. The idea that kids are intentionally forced to stay home from school is irrational. Add on top of the closing business to deny income to those same parents. The inability to offer lunch, laptops, and wifi is real. Even basic healthcare is on the table in some school districts. It's shameful to make comments insinuating that kids have to toughen up and deal with the education and sociological issues that have a more sinister impact on kids from families that are living pay check to pay check. Infuriating if you think about it.

Most of us on this forum likely breezed through the initial lockdown. Upgraded wifi, upraded kid computers, re-purposed areas in your house for school work. Some kids even thrived in that environment. Slept in, woke up minutes before class, ate breakfast in bed.

Not happening so much in parts of phoenix where multi generational families are crammed into less than idea square footage to service a family of 10. Wifi upgrade likley not happening, computer upgrade - nope. Space for school work...not even close. Supervision? likely not if parents or wage earners were out trying to hustle a paycheck.

Funny how zeros in paychecks impact quality of life.
 
what-happened said:
@Hüsker Dü's interpretation of "adversity" is likely deeply rooted in the idea of the adversity suffered during the great depression, when it was almost equally distributed and not caused intentionally. The idea that kids are intentionally forced to stay home from school is irrational. Add on top of the closing business to deny income to those same parents. The inability to offer lunch, laptops, and wifi is real. Even basic healthcare is on the table in some school districts. It's shameful to make comments insinuating that kids have to toughen up and deal with the education and sociological issues that have a more sinister impact on kids from families that are living pay check to pay check. Infuriating if you think about it.

Most of us on this forum likely breezed through the initial lockdown. Upgraded wifi, upraded kid computers, re-purposed areas in your house for school work. Some kids even thrived in that environment. Slept in, woke up minutes before class, ate breakfast in bed.

Not happening so much in parts of phoenix where multi generational families are crammed into less than idea square footage to service a family of 10. Wifi upgrade likley not happening, computer upgrade - nope. Space for school work...not even close. Supervision? likely not if parents or wage earners were out trying to hustle a paycheck.

Funny how zeros in paychecks impact quality of life.
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Some kids are introverts and it was heaven for them. Some kids (like mine) are high extroverts and it was incredibly painful to them. Kids are not only built not financially equally, but also personality wise. Then let's not forget the challenged kids, whether it was autistic kids who couldn't get their OT, deaf kids who can't see anyone speak, reading delayed kids who couldn't get the early intervention they needed, or ADHD kids for whom zoom screens are torture. For kids that did have trouble, unless they were comfortable sharing already (which for most boys isn't the case), psychological intervention via zoom was problematic because no one was seeing kids in person (at least in California). One friend of ours had an eating disorder....they couldn't access the hospital for treatment, and had to face either not treating it and see their daughter waste away or send her off to a hospital in Colorado.
 
Eric sondheimer of la times is reporting San Diego unified is imposing a vaccination requirement on all participants in sports and extracurriculars (the prior court case only covered schooling). Non essential extracurricular (such as those out of season, conditioning, band and cheer or dances and festivals) are being paused.

also the buzz around the Super Bowl being moved out of California is increasing.
 
espola said:
9864 <> 9684. Somebody's dislexic.

"No, it's not" refers to the claim that it's a yes or no question.

Here's a trick you can use -- clicking on the number in the upper right of a post gives a URL that links directly to that post, with no danger of copying the number down wrong.
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Convenient
 
Macron's blunt language on France's unvaccinated causes furore

Macron said he wanted to "piss off" unvaccinated people by making their lives so complicated they would end up getting jabbed. He was speaking in an interview with Le Parisien newspaper in which he also called unvaccinated people irresponsible and unworthy of being considered citizens.

At least he is honest about how he really feels.
 
Grace T. said:
Eric sondheimer of la times is reporting San Diego unified is imposing a vaccination requirement on all participants in sports and extracurriculars (the prior court case only covered schooling). Non essential extracurricular (such as those out of season, conditioning, band and cheer or dances and festivals) are being paused.

also the buzz around the Super Bowl being moved out of California is increasing.
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Yup, the last card of the deck is to hurt the kids and force them to jab or no sports, just like dad had to jab keep his job and mom jab to keep her nurse job. Bye bye Super Bowl LA. Kiss it goodbye. My really really good friend is packed up and gone and will not come back to California. So many people are leaving.
 
Grace T. said:
Eric sondheimer of la times is reporting San Diego unified is imposing a vaccination requirement on all participants in sports and extracurriculars (the prior court case only covered schooling). Non essential extracurricular (such as those out of season, conditioning, band and cheer or dances and festivals) are being paused.

also the buzz around the Super Bowl being moved out of California is increasing.
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Dallas is reportedly the backup plan, I can’t believe they are moving these events to these red state death zones
 
Grace T. said:
Some kids are introverts and it was heaven for them. Some kids (like mine) are high extroverts and it was incredibly painful to them. Kids are not only built not financially equally, but also personality wise. Then let's not forget the challenged kids, whether it was autistic kids who couldn't get their OT, deaf kids who can't see anyone speak, reading delayed kids who couldn't get the early intervention they needed, or ADHD kids for whom zoom screens are torture. For kids that did have trouble, unless they were comfortable sharing already (which for most boys isn't the case), psychological intervention via zoom was problematic because no one was seeing kids in person (at least in California). One friend of ours had an eating disorder....they couldn't access the hospital for treatment, and had to face either not treating it and see their daughter waste away or send her off to a hospital in Colorado.
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layered and complex, as most things are when dealing with children. It's very easy to sit back in your rocking chair and monday morning quarterback things.
 
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