Vaccine

EvilGoalie 21 said:
I have not been by since the last badger sighting but climate and weather from about 4 years ago (if memory serves) was one of my favorite threads I've ever jumped on, here or elsewhere. I take it a lot of the posters from that time (although there are still some long-haulers!) have moved on. The infodemic was just in its infancy. It had not yet been professionalized and the methods fine tuned to the point that we see here. So you still had these individual groups who were going to all the trouble to create alternative data sets that they would upload onto the internet, which would then get picked up and show up on the soccer forum somehow. Like they'd wrap a light bulb in tin foil, heat it up, turn it off, take some readings with a digital thermocouple, plug it all into a spreadsheet and conclude that the entirety of black body radiation physics had to be wrong. It was like getting to play along inside a Firesign Theatre skit. So that one was a lot of fun actually. Thanks E for the good times!

As I recall we even had poetry corner time outs when things would get a little heated.
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I think most of the alternative-fact-based theories that deniers were using have been overwhelmed by evidence, so they gave up trying. They missed a good chance for a topical debate, too, since so far this year's global temperatures have been the lowest since 2014. Untested topics would include Is global warming over? Is this a result of the 2020 economic slowdown? Is this a result of China finally clamping down on greenhouse gas emissions? It could have gone on and on.

Maybe "deniers" is too strong a word -- misinformed comes to mind since there has been so much of that flavor around here lately on other topics.
 
dad4 said:
No need. I got my ego boost back in my undergrad days by getting Marty Feldstein to have to issue a correction in front of the entire class. Tripping up Kulldorf on a stats error is small potatoes after that.
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Spit that other hook out first.
 
Grace T. said:
I see we've moved on from the let's question the person's credentials/abilities phase, and are now in the let's question his motives.
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They get caught cheating & lying and all they have left is hate with division. Sad how the Elitist behave when caught cheating and so much more. I have to leave the state Grace. The hate I got today from a few is too much for my soul. It's getting bad in some people.
 
Grace T. said:
83% of Americans (adults and teens only, since younger children don't donate blood) have antibodies from either natural immunity or vaccines yet herd immunity still seems elusive.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1433517047577726991
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I'll hazard a guess that the portion of the US population that donates blood is heavily biased toward getting vaccinated. Just a hunch.

I'll let dad4 tell us the proper name for that phenomenon of biased selections.
 
espola said:
I'll hazard a guess that the portion of the US population that donates blood is heavily biased toward getting vaccinated. Just a hunch.

I'll let dad4 tell us the proper name for that phenomenon of biased selections.
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1. Fine
2. It’s the cdc doing it. Thought y’all loved the cdc?
3. They do a comparison to January which is also interesting
4. In the comparison they take a straight 1 to 1 against the single dose us vaccine rate. How magical is that?
 
espola said:
I'll hazard a guess that the portion of the US population that donates blood is heavily biased toward getting vaccinated. Just a hunch.

I'll let dad4 tell us the proper name for that phenomenon of biased selections.
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Wait….your not saying that the CDC would issue a somewhat skewed or biased study, are you?

(Que the beginning of a circular, deflectionary argument in 3….2….)
 
Grace T. said:
1. Fine
2. It’s the cdc doing it. Thought y’all loved the cdc?
3. They do a comparison to January which is also interesting
4. In the comparison they take a straight 1 to 1 against the single dose us vaccine rate. How magical is that?
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Which universe did that response come from?
 
espola said:
I'll hazard a guess that the portion of the US population that donates blood is heavily biased toward getting vaccinated. Just a hunch.

I'll let dad4 tell us the proper name for that phenomenon of biased selections.
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You don't need to guess. The diagram shows 63.1% of blood donors had vaccine antibodies on May 21.

You can just compare that to the 18-64 vax rate for late May. That will roughly tell you whether there is a selection bias or not. Just be sure to use the single dose number instead of the fully vaccinated number.
 
Weird that it is so political we have trouble believing a simple study.

They measure antibodies in donated blood to get a rough idea of how much room there is for Delta to grow. This helps them plan for fall, so we don't run out of oxygen when some of us get sick.

Why are we finding fault with this?
 
crush said:
They get caught cheating & lying and all they have left is hate with division. Sad how the Elitist behave when caught cheating and so much more. I have to leave the state Grace. The hate I got today from a few is too much for my soul. It's getting bad in some people.
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The internet reaches far and wide. Check in often. If I got it right you've got an 04 kid. Do they get to finish out their final club/high school year?
 
Ok, this IS the vaccine thread. I got my second shingles shot last week in the morning. By 9:00 PM, I had a fever and muscle aches. Within an hour or so, I had the worst headache I can remember - everything hurt from my head to my feet. It was much worse than the 2nd Covid shot. I finally got to sleep around 4:00 AM. The next day was just muscle aches, low fever, and a minor headache. I was thrilled with those symptoms after the prior night. Everyone handles these shots differently, but just a head's up if you get it.
 
kickingandscreaming said:
Ok, this IS the vaccine thread. I got my second shingles shot last week in the morning. By 9:00 PM, I had a fever and muscle aches. Within an hour or so, I had the worst headache I can remember - everything hurt from my head to my feet. It was much worse than the 2nd Covid shot. I finally got to sleep around 4:00 AM. The next day was just muscle aches, low fever, and a minor headache. I was thrilled with those symptoms after the prior night. Everyone handles these shots differently, but just a head's up if you get it.
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Thanks for the update bro. I'm still the non vaxxing, drunk driving, domestic terrorist schmuck. I feel the best ever though in my life. No illnesses in 20 months. I do feel pain in my soul for all the hate & division.
 
crush said:
Thanks for the update bro. I'm still the non vaxxing, drunk driving, domestic terrorist schmuck. I feel the best ever though in my life. No illnesses in 20 months. I do feel pain in my soul for all the hate & division.
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Yes, lot of division out there, Crush. I am very happy to hear you are staying healthy.
 
kickingandscreaming said:
Yes, lot of division out there, Crush. I am very happy to hear you are staying healthy.
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Physically I'm on "fire" bro. However, my mental health has taken a troll. I know so many on here play Doc and they told me I need to stay on my meds. I don't take Big Farma though and have no meds to take. I only use what God gave me. I went to a b of a bank yesterday to seek help and no one was in the bank doing any banking. Empty!!! Only one lady at the teller place and no one around her. Big, thick glass was between her and eye. She had this huge mask on her face that was ugly. She was at least 100 pounds over weight. She had fear written all over her. I asked her, "they still got you wearing the mask?" She said it's her choice to stay healthy. It went way down hill from there and I stormed out after 25 minutes of complete and utter BS. B of a is a joke. I actually had to drive to three branches before I found one that was open. Evil dude is weirdo troll?
 
N00B said:
I hope they warned you of the expected reaction that you experienced.

“Schedule that second shingles shot on a Friday so you don’t miss the next day at work.”
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Actually, I looked it up after I got the first shot and had some muscle aches and fatigue. My experience has been that the explanation of side effects is underplayed. I can't remember a time where I had side effects described without the word "mild". I assume this is out of fear I won't get the shot. Shingles is no joke. Even if I would have known I'd have more than mild side effects, I still would have taken it.

Good advice about timing that 2nd dose.
 
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