Vaccine

[Kicker4Life]

I don't see myself as taking a side, unless it is the side of truth and common sense.

Thank you for this….I laughed so hard I almost spit out my coffee.

 

[crush]

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Yesterday I read about a person who was against the jab that had died of a really bad cold that turned into pneumonia. Both lungs filled and he died. Another person just died after being jabbed twice of the same type of cold. Then, I just saw a person from the UK whose dd just died after her second jab. The fact is, everyone is going to die sooner rather than later. Fear of death is real.

 

[dad4]

Errr….as I said there’s a lot for both sides to criticize on this study. On the anti mask side it’s that it tracked symptoms since blood samples were hard to collect and that it was coupled with distance (you saw a greater effect in the elderly because the elderly were more sheltered). But I’d be happy if you just finally acknowledge cloth masks are not all they are cracked up to be.

I am not criticizing the study. I am criticizing you for misrepresenting the study.

 

[Grace T.]

I am not criticizing the study. I am criticizing you for misrepresenting the study.

Yeah yeah yeah we know the drill. My representation of the study is that there’s quite a lot in there for both sides to hate and there’s quite a lot for both to criticize by way of methodology. I think we just both proved that. But between you and me, its only the true believer that tried to argue this study is great for masking.

 

[espola]

Errr….as I said there’s a lot for both sides to criticize on this study. On the anti mask side it’s that it tracked symptoms since blood samples were hard to collect and that it was coupled with distance (you saw a greater effect in the elderly because the elderly were more sheltered). But I’d be happy if you just finally acknowledge cloth masks are not all they are cracked up to be.

Strawman

 

[espola]

Thank you for this….I laughed so hard I almost spit out my coffee.

Do you have some examples where this is not true?

 

[espola]

Yeah yeah yeah we know the drill. My representation of the study is that there’s quite a lot in there for both sides to hate and there’s quite a lot for both to criticize by way of methodology. I think we just both proved that. But between you and me, its only the true believer that tried to argue this study is great for masking.

Every masked group fared better than every unmasked group. Will you admit that, or is this another Simpson's paradox?

 

[Kicker4Life]

Do you have some examples where this is not true?

When truth is determined by ones own point of view, you can not argue it……

 

[Bruddah IZ]

Have you heard of disease reservoirs? This tweet makes no sense.

Explain.

 

[Bruddah IZ]

Hansen’s Disease comes to mind.

And?

 

[espola]

When truth is determined by ones own point of view, you can not argue it……

That's an interesting philosophy, but you gave no examples to illustrate it.

 

[espola]

And?

Hint: it's in the Bible.

 

[N00B]

And?

…and for thousands of years people have ‘blamed’ the ‘unclean’ lepers for spreading that disease.

 

[Bruddah IZ]

Apologies for posting more facts.

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Looks like a lot of natural immunity in the blue line. How many of the blue liners end up getting vaccinated and becoming a part of the green line that obviously contains not previously infected folks?

 

[espola]

…and for thousands of years people have ‘blamed’ the ‘unclean’ lepers for spreading that disease.

I have always liked this scene --

 

[Bruddah IZ]

It's worse than that. The troll honestly can't think of any time in all of history when one human got mad at another for spreading disease.

Hanapaa!

 

[Bruddah IZ]

...just a selfish prick.

Hilarious. Kulldorf goaded half of twitter with that tweet. You people repeating history cracks me up. Biblical history at that. Good morning tyrants.

 

[Bruddah IZ]

Interesting - thanks for posting. However, I was referring to cases, not deaths.

Funny how caseteria was all the rage from the beginning.

 

[Bruddah IZ]

You have really poor judgment in selecting allies.

You'll get over it.

 

[Bruddah IZ]

That is a significant misrepresentation, Grace.

The study did not find that surgical masks are associated with a 10% decline in cases. The study found that partial adoption of surgical masks was associated with an 11.2% decline in cases. The actual change to mask wearing was only 28 percentage points. Complete adoption of surgical masks would be expected to cause a larger change than partial adoption. If it is linear, a 40% decline.

Slightly more, since the surgical masks they used were washable and had a lower filtration efficiency than the disposable ones.

Cloth masks were not found to be useless. The study was underpowered to answer that question. The median estimate for cloth masks was that they were about 1/2 as effective as reusable surgical masks.

In all, the study was strong evidence that masks work, and that you should upgrade from cloth to surgical.

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