Vaccine

crush said:
This is my kind of food. My buddy and I have a garden at his place. It's the Crush AvoCop Sandwich on Toasted Sourdough, bro :) I made one for my wife & DD. Last night my wife made a killer Curry. Tasty and no meat :)

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That sounds ono. Ms. IZ makes a meatless curry bean stew and yellow rice. I stir in a little bitchin' sauce in my bowl with a little naan bread and then it is game on!! Had avo sandwiches for breakfast several times last week. Also drink a tumeric, ginger, almond milk drink that eliminates inflamation. I also make my own CBD oil.
 
Bruddah IZ said:
That sounds ono. Ms. IZ makes a meatless curry bean stew and yellow rice. I stir in a little bitchin' sauce in my bowl with a little naan bread and then it is game on!! Had avo sandwiches for breakfast several times last week. Also drink a tumeric, ginger, almond milk drink that eliminates inflamation. I also make my own CBD oil.
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My friends mom invented these chips back in the day. Avo and chips bro. No cheese/Moo Moos in our house. Have you seen the pictures of the cows lately? Yikes!!! Talk about abuse and needles for the cows. Cashew cheese is amazing. It's hard to stop eating meat for many. It's the only way to start the new life, moo! But hey, if folks want to eat poison and shoot bat virus mixed with whatever Espola theory of ingredients is, then go right ahead, right Bruddah? Alarm bells have been rung so many times my ears hurt. I got a super cool PM from someone who hated me. He now say's, "ok ok Crush, you were right about much. I still hate your delivery but it's spot on." I will never share PMs or private conversations we have at the fields. Mums the word :)
 
crush said:
This is my kind of food. My buddy and I have a garden at his place. It's the Crush AvoCop Sandwich on Toasted Sourdough, bro :) I made one for my wife & DD. Last night my wife made a killer Curry. Tasty and no meat :)

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But my avo sand didn't look like yours. Wow!! If they could just administer that through a needle. Bypass the stomach and right in to the battle.
 
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My friends mom invented these chips back in the day. Avo and chips bro. No cheese/Moo Moos in our house. Have you seen the pictures of the cows lately? Yikes!!! Talk about abuse and needles for the cows. Cashew cheese is amazing. It's hard to stop eating meat for many. It's the only way to start the new life, moo! But hey, if folks want to eat poison and shoot bat virus mixed with whatever Espola theory of ingredients is, then go right ahead, right Bruddah? Alarm bells have been rung so many times my ears hurt. I got a super cool PM from someone who hated me. He now say's, "ok ok Crush, you were right about much. I still hate your delivery but it's spot on." I will never share PMs or private conversations we have at the fields. Mums the word :)
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I don't get PM's. I guess you have to be a Platinum member or something. I am for freedom of choice in regards to vaccines. We like having a silver bullet. This is too complex an issue for us to apply the Socialist one size fits all solution of a vaccine to 300+ million folks when we have IFR's with 4 zeroes to the right of the decimal point. It is tyranny and insanity masquerading as Science. There is too much scientific data contrary to ongoing policies to ignore and yet the so called scientist and doctors are marching forward from their respective silo's to carry out their own missions without understanding what is really going.
 
NOVA.Dad said:
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Great Barrington Declaration

The Great Barrington Declaration
The Great Barrington Declaration – As infectious disease epidemiologists and public health scientists we have grave concerns about the damaging physical and mental health impacts of the prevailing COVID-19 policies, and recommend an approach we call Focused Protection.
Coming from both the left and right, and around the world, we have devoted our careers to protecting people. Current lockdown policies are producing devastating effects on short and long-term public health. The results (to name a few) include lower childhood vaccination rates, worsening cardiovascular disease outcomes, fewer cancer screenings and deteriorating mental health – leading to greater excess mortality in years to come, with the working class and younger members of society carrying the heaviest burden. Keeping students out of school is a grave injustice.
Keeping these measures in place until a vaccine is available will cause irreparable damage, with the underprivileged disproportionately harmed.
Fortunately, our understanding of the virus is growing. We know that vulnerability to death from COVID-19 is more than a thousand-fold higher in the old and infirm than the young. Indeed, for children, COVID-19 is less dangerous than many other harms, including influenza.
As immunity builds in the population, the risk of infection to all – including the vulnerable – falls. We know that all populations will eventually reach herd immunity – i.e. the point at which the rate of new infections is stable – and that this can be assisted by (but is not dependent upon) a vaccine. Our goal should therefore be to minimize mortality and social harm until we reach herd immunity.
The most compassionate approach that balances the risks and benefits of reaching herd immunity, is to allow those who are at minimal risk of death to live their lives normally to build up immunity to the virus through natural infection, while better protecting those who are at highest risk. We call this Focused Protection.
Adopting measures to protect the vulnerable should be the central aim of public health responses to COVID-19. By way of example, nursing homes should use staff with acquired immunity and perform frequent testing of other staff and all visitors. Staff rotation should be minimized. Retired people living at home should have groceries and other essentials delivered to their home. When possible, they should meet family members outside rather than inside. A comprehensive and detailed list of measures, including approaches to multi-generational households, can be implemented, and is well within the scope and capability of public health professionals.
Those who are not vulnerable should immediately be allowed to resume life as normal. Simple hygiene measures, such as hand washing and staying home when sick should be practiced by everyone to reduce the herd immunity threshold. Schools and universities should be open for in-person teaching. Extracurricular activities, such as sports, should be resumed. Young low-risk adults should work normally, rather than from home. Restaurants and other businesses should open. Arts, music, sport and other cultural activities should resume. People who are more at risk may participate if they wish, while society as a whole enjoys the protection conferred upon the vulnerable by those who have built up herd immunity.
On October 4, 2020, this declaration was authored and signed in Great Barrington, United States, by:

Dr. Martin Kulldorff, professor of medicine at Harvard University, a biostatistician, and epidemiologist with expertise in detecting and monitoring infectious disease outbreaks and vaccine safety evaluations.
Dr. Sunetra Gupta, professor at Oxford University, an epidemiologist with expertise in immunology, vaccine development, and mathematical modeling of infectious diseases.
Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, professor at Stanford University Medical School, a physician, epidemiologist, health economist, and public health policy expert focusing on infectious diseases and vulnerable populations.
SIGN THE DECLARATION
Co-signers
Medical and Public Health Scientists and Medical Practitioners
Dr. Alexander Walker, principal at World Health Information Science Consultants, former Chair of Epidemiology, Harvard TH Chan School of Public Health, USA
Dr. Andrius Kavaliunas, epidemiologist and assistant professor at Karolinska Institute, Sweden
Dr. Angus Dalgleish, oncologist, infectious disease expert and professor, St. George’s Hospital Medical School, University of London, England
Dr. Anthony J Brookes, professor of genetics, University of Leicester, England
Dr. Annie Janvier, professor of pediatrics and clinical ethics, Université de Montréal and Sainte-Justine University Medical Centre, Canada
Dr. Ariel Munitz, professor of clinical microbiology and immunology, Tel Aviv University, Israel
Dr. Boris Kotchoubey, Institute for Medical Psychology, University of Tübingen, Germany
Dr. Cody Meissner, professor of pediatrics, expert on vaccine development, efficacy, and safety. Tufts University School of Medicine, USA
Dr. David Katz, physician and president, True Health Initiative, and founder of the Yale University Prevention Research Center, USA
Dr. David Livermore, microbiologist, infectious disease epidemiologist and professor, University of East Anglia, England
Dr. Eitan Friedman, professor of medicine, Tel-Aviv University, Israel
Dr. Ellen Townsend, professor of psychology, head of the Self-Harm Research Group, University of Nottingham, England
Dr. Eyal Shahar, physician, epidemiologist and professor (emeritus) of public health, University of Arizona, USA
Dr. Florian Limbourg, physician and hypertension researcher, professor at Hannover Medical School, Germany
Dr. Gabriela Gomes, mathematician studying infectious disease epidemiology, professor, University of Strathclyde, Scotland
Dr. Gerhard Krönke, physician and professor of translational immunology, University of Erlangen-Nuremberg, Germany
Dr. Gesine Weckmann, professor of health education and prevention, Europäische Fachhochschule, Rostock, Germany
Dr. Günter Kampf, associate professor, Institute for Hygiene and Environmental Medicine, Greifswald University, Germany
Dr. Helen Colhoun, professor of medical informatics and epidemiology, and public health physician, University of Edinburgh, Scotland
Dr. Jonas Ludvigsson, pediatrician, epidemiologist and professor at Karolinska Institute and senior physician at Örebro University Hospital, Sweden
Dr. Karol Sikora, physician, oncologist, and professor of medicine at the University of Buckingham, England
Dr. Laura Lazzeroni, professor of psychiatry and behavioral sciences and of biomedical data science, Stanford University Medical School, USA
Dr. Lisa White, professor of modelling and epidemiology, Oxford University, England
Dr. Mario Recker, malaria researcher and associate professor, University of Exeter, England
Dr. Matthew Ratcliffe, professor of philosophy, specializing in philosophy of mental health, University of York, England
Dr. Matthew Strauss, critical care physician and assistant professor of medicine, Queen’s University, Canada
Dr. Michael Jackson, research fellow, School of Biological Sciences, University of Canterbury, New Zealand
Dr. Michael Levitt, biophysicist and professor of structural biology, Stanford University, USA.
Recipient of the 2013 Nobel Prize in Chemistry.
Dr. Mike Hulme, professor of human geography, University of Cambridge, England
Dr. Motti Gerlic, professor of clinical microbiology and immunology, Tel Aviv University, Israel
Dr. Partha P. Majumder, professor and founder of the National Institute of Biomedical Genomics, Kalyani, India
Dr. Paul McKeigue, physician, disease modeler and professor of epidemiology and public health, University of Edinburgh, Scotland
Dr. Rajiv Bhatia, physician, epidemiologist and public policy expert at the Veterans Administration, USA
Dr. Rodney Sturdivant, infectious disease scientist and associate professor of biostatistics, Baylor University, USA
Dr. Salmaan Keshavjee, professor of Global Health and Social Medicine at Harvard Medical School, USA
Dr. Simon Thornley, epidemiologist and biostatistician, University of Auckland, New Zealand
Dr. Simon Wood, biostatistician and professor, University of Edinburgh, Scotland
Dr. Stephen Bremner,professor of medical statistics, University of Sussex, England
Dr. Sylvia Fogel, autism provider and psychiatrist at Massachusetts General Hospital and instructor at Harvard Medical School, USA
Tom Nicholson, Associate in Research, Duke Center for International Development, Sanford School of Public Policy, Duke University, USA
Dr. Udi Qimron, professor of clinical microbiology and immunology, Tel Aviv University, Israel
Dr. Ulrike Kämmerer, professor and expert in virology, immunology and cell biology, University of Würzburg, Germany
Dr. Uri Gavish, biomedical consultant, Israel
Dr. Yaz Gulnur Muradoglu, professor of finance, director of the Behavioural Finance Working Group, Queen Mary University of London, England
 
Bruddah IZ said:
I don't get PM's. I guess you have to be a Platinum member or something. I am for freedom of choice in regards to vaccines. We like having a silver bullet. This is too complex an issue for us to apply the Socialist one size fits all solution of a vaccine to 300+ million folks when we have IFR's with 4 zeroes to the right of the decimal point. It is tyranny and insanity masquerading as Science. There is too much scientific data contrary to ongoing policies to ignore and yet the so called scientist and doctors are marching forward from their respective silo's to carry out their own missions without understanding what is really going.
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I think were both on the same page. I was attacked 5 years ago on FB for being a t supporter and I didn;t even vote. I was helping a dear old pal with another friend who were arguing about how t upset HRC. These people lost and their still cheating & crying about it. It's so obvious. I think it's because I want kids to be born. These punks kill kids dude and that is why I am here. Losers cheat, lie, murder, rape, bribes, blackmail, kickbacks, more cheating, stealing and the like. Real winners we got in this country.
My friend just got the notice Brudda. No Vax, no job. He has until 9/13. What is up with that date? I can;t share where but it's in Socal. He will NOT get the jab. I told him to get fired and then I have a real good phone number to give him. He's worked at the same place for 22 years and wore a dam mask for a long time. He went to the Doc and they think his mouth infection is from his mask. It's bad dude. Half the folks got the jab and he said only from that group has people fallen ill. I not here to scare anyone. The facts are the facts. He and the other men who said no a long time ago ((they will wear a mask, but no jabs)) don't get sick, ever!!!! It's crazy as all get out but it's true. Lastly, I hear Shake Shack is saying to get lost if no jab.
 
Not all hospital workers are highly educated medical professionals like doctors and nurses, said Richard Carpiano, a public health scientist and medical sociologist at UC Riverside. There’s administrative staff, secretaries, janitorial workers, bookkeepers, cafeteria personnel and other support people who keep the doors open and the lights on. They’re apt to reflect the attitudes — and fears — of the public at large.
 
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Oh Bruddah, check out this guy going around California finding lame sheep who would love to see me and my family arrested for refusing 100% to NEVER take the jabs. These are the people WHO benefited in the old life and they want so bad to go back to when things were normal for them. Let me be very Frank with everyone. The tables have been turned and you got played big time with poison. Stop arresting the people who think critically with their brain or you won;t have anyone to stand up to liars. Baaaaaahahahahaaaaaaaaa. WTF up folks!!! So easy to sign for some of these fellow Americans of mine. I wont judge because I too was brainwashed at one time in my life. However, I never wanted someone arrested for not taking experimental shots from Dr. F and his pal Bill who hung around Jeff all the time. I have no idea what's in the jab, only Espola's theory of ingredients.....

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NOVA.Dad said:
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I will bet you $1 that it will be the other way around soon. I won;t be on my yacht though warning you though. I will be yelling at you from shore as you go into the ocean to warn you of the dangers in the ocean. Rip tides and the rocks. No scare of no sharks. Odds of shark attack is very low. Fear tatics only work on those with fear. I have zero fear of virus, just the assholes that cheat, lie and kill for a living. Stay high on your high horse and high life living Mr. Jones on his yacht. The table's have already turned sir, just wait for your turn. You do know WHO is making huge $$$ in this evil market? Blood Clot medicine to help thin your blood is selling like hot cakes and dude is making millions for himself. I'll look for the article for you because I did find it online.
 
Desert Hound said:
Eh. The people at risk...the 65+ and older have gotten vaxxed at very high rates.

THAT is why deaths have plummeted. To pretend that the rest are as vulnerable (or anywhere close) is...fear mongering.

The majority of people have very little risk. Those under 24 virtually NONE.
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Hound, not all 65+ took the jabs. Many and I mean many, have taken therapeutic medication as an option as well. These rats are so busted. The sheep that were following the rats need to get the F off that wheel quickly. Check this debate I just had with one of the most liberal pals I have. Back drop is 9/11/2001 I was tricked by the attacks and the hacks. I was for the Irag war before the truth came out. The truth today regarding the vax is not truly known. Nove man, can you share what is in the vaccines and I mean what iall of it is? I have no idea what the real truth is yet, but if one is patinet, the truth will always win. Only history will shed light on the truth. Anyway, this guy loves Liz Cheny now and thinks Dick did a great job of being her papa. He loves the Bushes & McCain and Mit and Mitch. in 2001, these people were Satan to him. Now, hero for his causes and his beliefs. Sit back Hound, stay safe and get a lot of pop corn bro.
 
Hound, thoughts on what this Governor is advising private biz today to do to those like me? For those who still drink, do you feel the same way when you have a drink?
 
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OC Register is saying things are about to heat up with more politics at the schools. With schools about to re-open and face-to-face instruction set to resume, school officials throughout Orange County are hearing from parents like Dad4 and Hound, who hold opposing views about a state mandate that requires most students, teachers and staff to wear masks when indoors at a California public school.

Dad4 vs Desert Hound, Round 1

Dad4 side are parents who welcome the safety of masks, especially with COVID-19 spiking again in Southern California and around the country. These parents argue that the driver of the new surge, the Delta variant, is more transmissible than previous versions of the sometimes fatal disease and the masks-for-all rule helps protect kids and figures to slow community spread.

Hound Dog type of parents are frustrated by the mandate, saying they believe masks pose a risk to their child’s mental health and their ability to learn. Many of these parents argue that they, not the government, should decide if their child does or doesn’t wear a mask at school.

A new group called “Let Them Breathe” with parents like Wat Fly & Grace have helped anti-mandate parents express their view to school boards, organizing recent rallies outside Orange Unified and Tustin Unified districts. And at least least three county school districts – Capistrano, Placentia-Yorba Linda and Saddleback Valley – have formally asked state health officials to kill the mandate and make face masks optional on campus. Go Capo!!!!
But it’s unclear if those requests will gain traction. As case rates jumped in recent weeks, the federal Centers for Disease Control changed its guidance, urging masks indoors for all students and teachers, regardless of their vaccination status. That mirrors California’s mandate.

But with the state leaving enforcement of the mandate to school districts, one question remains:

What will happen if students show up to school and refuse to wear a mask? Well, wtf do you think will happen? This is all about dividing us all over stupid non scientific BS. The only science I see here is how to piss everyone off and have them be even more divisive. This is Sociology 101 folks on how to ruin friendships and community. Poly Phy-Op?

Confusion
School district officials say one thing is certain – they don’t have the legal authority to unilaterally opt out of the mask mandate. I super disagree. Play the challenge card

“We must comply with face masks, and local boards cannot adopt less restrictive measures than what is mandated,” said Los Alamitos Unified Superintendent Andrew Pulver.

School district officials, including Pulver, say the California Department of Health confused parents on July 13, when it issued two statements about masks at school. Early in the day, the agency said schools “must exclude” students if they come to class without a mask and refuse to wear one provided by the school. But later in the day, the agency issued a second statement that kept the mandate in place – and gave individual districts leeway on how to enforce it – but removed the words “must exclude” from its guideline.

The result, said Pulver, was confusion.


“Some parents like dad4 are saying ‘uphold the mask mandate.’ Others like crush are saying ‘don’t enforce it.’”

“I don’t know if we’ll get further guidance,” he added. “But the state confused it, making it sound like districts have options. When in reality we don’t.”

For now, it looks like kids who show up without masks won’t be allowed to sit in classes with kids who are wearing them.

Fermin Leal, spokesman for Santa Ana Unified, said the district will divert non-masked students to “virtual learning classes, or independent study, or something similar.” If you loved the beach like I did back in early 80s, I would be 100% in the virtual learning class at the beach.
 
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