Bad News Thread

crush said:
Well, what if the owner says, "anyone who got the Johnson or P fi zer is not allowed to eat inside my business. My dd is pregnant and I also have two other dds that want to still have kids some day. So you can only eat alone, outside in the canopy for one person. Sorry Charlie.....that is called the shoe is on the other foot dad :)

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Well, if there were any actual science behind the second hand vaccination fears, you’d have a point.

In this case, you may as well be telling me that Elvis is playing concerts for the aliens we are hiding in Area 51. You’ve been misled by one of the weirder corners of the internet.
 
dad4 said:
I went for Pfizer, not J&J. So I’m not done yet. I’ve had my second shot but I’m waiting my 2 weeks before I completely relax.

If you go for J&J it’s just one shot. So you’re fully vaccinated in 2 weeks.

Not so much fear as wanting to do my part. Totally plan to have a nice dinner out at the end of my 2 weeks.
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If I were you, I would never relax with that fake vaccine in you. But hey, a little bit of Pathogenic priming never hurt anyone.
 
dad4 said:
The fair comparison is coal power plants versus nuclear ones. Naval reactors can scram. Power plants can’t.

Nuclear has to take credit for Chernobyl, Fukushima, and long term waste disposal.

Coal has to take credit for CO2 levels, air pollution, mining accidents, and mercury in the oceans.

My view is that nuclear wins the argument, but it’s not quite as simple as you imply. Justifying that 10,000 year waste storage burden is a heavy lift. You have to assume some amount of containment leaks over that time.
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Who said it was simple? Ever served on a Nuclear powered aircraft carrier? Simple is the last word that comes to mind. What does come to mind is trade offs. You can't cry CO2 boogeyman, a.k.a. plant food, if you're not willing to learn from Chernobyl and Fukushima.
 
Kicker4Life said:
What do you think we will do with all the Lithium Ion after those electric cars die?
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Treat the batteries as high grade lithium ore and start over.

I'm sure there are plenty of industrial chemists working on improving the process. Worst case you dissolve the whole thing in acid and you have a lithium solution like you started with. I'm sure they have better ideas than that by now.
 
dad4 said:
Well, if there were any actual science behind the second hand vaccination fears, you’d have a point.

In this case, you may as well be telling me that Elvis is playing concerts for the aliens we are hiding in Area 51. You’ve been misled by one of the weirder corners of the internet.
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I can only guess who you're talking to, and this is funny as shit. LOL
 
dad4 said:
The fair comparison is coal power plants versus nuclear ones. Naval reactors can scram. Power plants can’t.

Nuclear has to take credit for Chernobyl, Fukushima, and long term waste disposal.

Coal has to take credit for CO2 levels, air pollution, mining accidents, and mercury in the oceans.

My view is that nuclear wins the argument, but it’s not quite as simple as you imply. Justifying that 10,000 year waste storage burden is a heavy lift. You have to assume some amount of containment leaks over that time.
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All commercial reactors have some sort of SCRAM mechanism. It is required by their license.

Coal plants are permitted to emit radioactive material in their waste (including atmospheric smoke) at a level much higher than any nuclear plant.

The Gates Foundation is funding a new reactor design that uses as its fuel what is essentially burned out commercial reactor fuel and has a much cheaper and supposedly safer design by cooling the reactor core with liquid sodium, so that a high-pressure reactor vessel is not required.
 
espola said:
All commercial reactors have some sort of SCRAM mechanism. It is required by their license.

Coal plants are permitted to emit radioactive material in their waste (including atmospheric smoke) at a level much higher than any nuclear plant.

The Gates Foundation is funding a new reactor design that uses as its fuel what is essentially burned out commercial reactor fuel and has a much cheaper and supposedly safer design by cooling the reactor core with liquid sodium, so that a high-pressure reactor vessel is not required.
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Ok. Some kind of scram. Not the same as using an ocean for your coolant.

If we let the nuclear side justify things with not yet extant technology, then we have to do the same for coal. But that is silly. My vaporware versus your vaporware.

Past record versus past record is more accurate.
 
Mr President, I have a question. Well, can dad, hater, espola, husker or anyone for that matter help me with my question. How does one know if they got the freaking shots? Please, someone tell me. Thank you. This is now starting to get serious losers!!!! This makes no sense and he won't answer a follow up question to anything.

Biden says allowing fully vaccinated to go maskless indoors is a ‘great milestone’
'Get vaccinated or wear a mask until you do,' the president said
 
dad4 said:
Ok. Some kind of scram. Not the same as using an ocean for your coolant.

If we let the nuclear side justify things with not yet extant technology, then we have to do the same for coal. But that is silly. My vaporware versus your vaporware.

Past record versus past record is more accurate.
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A SCRAM is not adding coolant, it is adding neutron absorbers (typically cadmium or boron) that will stop the chain reaction.

One point the Gates Foundation makes in its promotional materials is that all existing commercial reactors in the US were designed with slide rules. Now they are using computers for calculations and simulations.
 
espola said:
A SCRAM is not adding coolant, it is adding neutron absorbers (typically cadmium or boron) that will stop the chain reaction.

One point the Gates Foundation makes in its promotional materials is that all existing commercial reactors in the US were designed with slide rules. Now they are using computers for calculations and simulations.
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Dude got problems on his hand right about now. Do you know where he is right now smart pants? Take a wild guess........
 
Desert Hound said:
Took them long enough to make this announcement.

"People who are fully vaccinated against coronavirus no longer need to wear masks while indoors or outdoors or physical distance in either large or small gatherings, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky announced during a White House COVID-19 briefing Thursday."
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@espola just a week or so ago was saying vaccines don't work like this. Despite the fact with every other vaccine vaccine once vaccinated we tell people to act normal.

Today the CDC moved away from their political stance and went back to the science. Once vaccinated you are good to go.

Maybe you should do some homework as to how vaccines work and what we have always done after vaccines are widely distributed.
 
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