Good luck getting a UHaul!
Let Them Play CA
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The good news is the drop off in both positivity and cases is fairly steep so yeah we have a shot somewhere of hitting that orange tier in 8 weeks (LA County is also following the same projections and is doing better than VC).
The bad news, though, is given how sensitive the tier system is it's easy for a small outbreak to ruin things (particularly from yellow-orange, or orange-red) in a county. Remember it's the worse of cases or positivity: so test a lot of people and cases get worse....test only people suspected of getting being sick and positivity goes up. The high density counties could see localized outbreaks due to the packed living and conditions at work. The low density county only need a handful of cases to get bumped up a tier since its adjusted based on population. Under the system, assuming better herd immunity and seasonality and no 3rd wave, it will be easy to get to red, a small bad outbreak (even if localized like the Orthodox outbreaks in NY or Israel) can get you bumped out of orange, and it's very hard to get to yellow. The system also works in favor of mid size counties (like the OC and VC) to the detriment or larger and smaller ones.
Lucky for you you are in NorCal but I'd put it at more than 50% that LA County schools won't be open full time this fall (particularly not the middle school and high schools). Under the tier system LA's high density makes it very easy for localized outbreaks to go and the tier system is overly sensitive. The LA teacher's unions have really dug in and have said the vaccine is not enough (and now with the J&J vaccine at less than perfect efficiency they have that as well). Neither the Biden nor the Newsom admin seems to show much political will to stand up to the unions. Planning in LAUSD is already underway for at least a hybrid part time system that will limit the number of kids on campus. Several employers have already told people we may be remote into 2022 unless the SoCal schools reopen and even then they don't expect a maskless return to normal until well into 2022.
I'm not saying this is the future we are locked into. But barring some seismic political change (the recall, a parents rebellions, a court standing up to Newsom, intervention by Biden), I'm more bearish than bullish on a full time return to normal in LA County schools this fall.
If you lived in LA, I'd say you might want to try and get a Uhaul reservation now. I hear they are hard to come by.
Desert Hound
DA
Actually I think what she means is this. There is heavy demand to leave CA. Not much demand moving to CA. So when you look at pricing it tells the story. Note the difference in rates.
I'm actually just kidding....but there is a lot of talk out there about Uhauls not being available or more expensive. Don't know if it's still true or not, but we were unable to get one of the small little box trailers for when we went out to Utah for a month in the summer (closest avail was in Bakersfield which we didn't find worth it so just loaded up the SUV as best we could and hoped for the best).
Desert Hound
DA
Certainly MORE expensive. Those quotes above were just pulled from their site.
And that then follows there is a bit of a supply problem. They are not getting as many back INTO CA as are leaving. Therefore the high prices going out.
They should be paying people to move trucks back to California.
Can someone please help Espola sort out the difference between sarcasm and a serious argument.
Scott m Shurson
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Insert away, it’s liberating and a fair question.
Scott m Shurson
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You think there’s a mom and not an Anton with a tampon?
GeekKid
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Funny thing is though a 26' truck from LA to Dallas is roughly $4,700. Same truck but going from Dallas to LA is $1,500.
SoccerFan4Life
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I’ve travelled all over the country for business. We have the best weather and there’s plenty to do in california. Let them go, more space for the rest of us. Today I’m in big bear where there’s plenty of snow. Tomorrow back to sunny SoCal and next weekend bike ride at the beach. Not too many states where you can do that.
GeekKid
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And back to the lock down, awesome governor, highest taxes, choking business regulations, biggest homeless problem in America, failing public schools, worst roads and traffic and a year of no soccer or sports for the kids. Been there, done that…enjoy the space.
MacDre
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If folks like you would quit bluffing and kick rocks, that would help resolve many of the above mentioned problems. I hear that Texas, Arizona, and Utah welcome fleeing Californians with open arms. Several options out there my friend. No need to be unhappy in California when you can live in Utah... right?
I just had argument with my buddy who moved to Vegas because he hated all the hate and all the back stabbing from all his friends. Let's not forget all the snitches too. I told him California will be Dreaming again and this time around it will be less crowded and that is a good thing. See ya and don't let the smog hit you on the way out!!!!
GeekKid
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I moved out of SoCal almost three years ago because of the above-mentioned issues. Best move our family ever made. Here we have great public schools, no state income tax, three times the size of yard and doubled the size of our house. My DDs been playing soccer since last June, going to in-person school since August, playing 6A High School and have been traveling around to a couple of ECNL & High School Showcases. As a matter of fact, as I type this, the family is packing the car and getting ready to head up to Oklahoma for a makeup game tomorrow. Going to take a look at Oklahoma State in Stillwater today since we already toured OU back in September on our way to Tulsa for her first ECNL game.
Scott m Shurson
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The problem is it won’t stay that way. Not in the direction we’re headed.
Scott m Shurson
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So you’re response to Geek is, “ Yeah and that’s how we like it. If you don’t, bye.”
So tell me, is Geek wrong? If so, how? Because it all seems pretty accurate to me and none of it is desirable.
Scott m Shurson
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Californians will eventually ruin things Texas does well, too. Just give it time.
Two benefits I enjoyed when I lived in Utah were the slopes were always less crowded on Sunday and you could always find a designated driver.
CA has some major problems. Start with schools and housing, and move on from there.
Your response is, essentially, "CA, love it or leave it."
That's no way to fix anything.