Surf Cup's Fate

Small biz is already in catastrophic waters. Just looking for a life boat to, "help, help, help me, please help my small biz." No, just a harbor patrol health boat going around giving out finds. All these small mom & pops are in big need and are taking on too much and will sink.
The biggest mistake was to give every eligible adult the $1,200 free check back in April. They could have given to those who lost their job or to small businesses. I know of several college students that grabbed that money to spend it on bikes, clothes, and las Vegas. California should let all small businesses open up to 50% capacity and the Walmart’s of the world to 25% capacity.
 
The Thanksgiving "surge on a surge" should be here any day now....
My hospital is down to 2 ICU beds. My county‘s daily case rate is 2000% of their case rate in mid October. No, that’s not a typo. We went from 70 to 1400.

That’s enough of a surge for me, thanks. What are you waiting for before you are willing to say it’s a problem?
 
If I understand it right, @MacDre actually does play, and you and I are the armchair QBs.

Nothing wrong with that. You want Fauci for your fantasy league team? Or you gonna go with Atlas?
I get you and EOTL now. This is some game with our lives were all playing. You have a job as a teacher for life and on here teaching us when you should be helping the kiddos with math. Interesting job you got. I know most of the teaching hours are way better then those banking hours in the past. My dd will get up in two more hours. BTW, this fantasy game that the 1% and their puppets have been playing with our lives and the military lives will soon end pal. I mean that 100%. I would take the Arm Services for my first pick in the draft. You can have all the health pros you loser!!!! Hahhahahahaha. Not you a loser personally, only those who cheated and hurt others so they can have all the power. I get Seal Team 6, all the other Seals, Green Berit, Special Ops, NSA, Jets, bombers and all the troops. The police and sheriff falls with the military as well. Enjoy Dr F and all his pals. You can have Jack, Mark, the other Mark and all the other smart dudes. Plus, take all the media and Hollywood with you. Good luck bro. It's not too late to repent and go to the winning side. God & Country!!!! Nothing like Apple Pie and a Chevy. Made in America. America, the land of the free and home of the brave.
 
My hospital is down to 2 ICU beds. My county‘s daily case rate is 2000% of their case rate in mid October. No, that’s not a typo. We went from 70 to 1400.

That’s enough of a surge for me, thanks. What are you waiting for before you are willing to say it’s a problem?
Don't be ungrateful for the size of the surge just yet. JB stated we would have 250,000 deaths in December. CDC Director Robert Redfield said 200,000. It's not over, but as of December 15th, we are sitting just under 36K. It sounds like they were expecting a bigger surge.
 
If I understand it right, @MacDre actually does play, and you and I are the armchair QBs.

Nothing wrong with that. You want Fauci for your fantasy league team? Or you gonna go with Atlas?
Has he played, "I started a business from scratch, rolled the dice and hit 7 only to see others close me down and now I lost everything I worked my ass off for?" Based on Dre, he worked as DA or with the DA but now works in higher education. He has a goat he drives down to TJ all the time to play soccer from Nocal. His wife is in the health profession. I see Dre opening up his own charter school and helping others improve their lot in life.
 
Not fair. You are Monday night quarterbacking. Hindsight is 20/20

I guess I just frame issues differently. I see the orders as an attempt to choose the lesser of the 2 evils. I think a complete shutdown would be catastrophic for small businesses. Maybe there is only marginal benefit regarding the current order but I think it’s a balancing act and better than imposing maximum pain via complete lockdown.

It would be if I hadn't been advocating the same all along.
 
Don't be ungrateful for the size of the surge just yet. JB stated we would have 250,000 deaths in December. CDC Director Robert Redfield said 200,000. It's not over, but as of December 15th, we are sitting just under 36K. It sounds like they were expecting a bigger surge.
Oh, they were expecting a larger surge. I had read the forecasts as December + January, not just December. Either way, we are still under.

Part of the pattern is they announce a “current path” estimate, in the hopes that we wake up and get off that path.

In this case, it partially worked. Many of us changed our behavior. I can’t fault them for that.
 
California should let all small businesses open up to 50% capacity and the Walmart’s of the world to 25% capacity.
Not sure about Socal but I think generally speaking the Bay Area is very hostile towards big box stores and supports mom and pop shops. For example look at places like Marin and Berkeley and the complete absence of big box stores. Also, around 10 years ago Hercules made national new by using eminent domain to take the property Walmart had purchased for development. Walmart in East Oakland by the Oakland airport closed within 5 years of opening.
 
Oh, they were expecting a larger surge. I had read the forecasts as December + January, not just December. Either way, we are still under.

Part of the pattern is they announce a “current path” estimate, in the hopes that we wake up and get off that path.

In this case, it partially worked. Many of us changed our behavior. I can’t fault them for that.
I love it!!! Call it big, and if you get it wrong, claim you scared them into doing better! You can't lose when people are so easily manipulated. Genius!!!
 
don’t think they address that topic here anymore
Surf? What is there to discuss? 85% of us have backed out. 15% are going to wait for the fat lady to sing. Of course, she has covid, so the finale is delayed.

If you want to talk Surf, let’s talk about Del Mar in August or November.
 
Surf? What is there to discuss? 85% of us have backed out. 15% are going to wait for the fat lady to sing. Of course, she has covid, so the finale is delayed.

If you want to talk Surf, let’s talk about Del Mar in August or November.
who are the 85% and who are the 15%? or is this your opinion?
 
Don't be ungrateful for the size of the surge just yet. JB stated we would have 250,000 deaths in December. CDC Director Robert Redfield said 200,000. It's not over, but as of December 15th, we are sitting just under 36K. It sounds like they were expecting a bigger surge.

I believe Redfield said the death toll could be 200k in the months of December through the end of February, not just December.

Based on your report that the US has suffered 36k deaths through just the first half of December so far .. do you still think they were predicting a bigger surge? It seems as though we are sadly on track to meet Redfield's prediction unless we continue to introduce mitigation measures (e.g., vaccinations, mask mandates, restricted indoor activities, etc.).

 
The biggest mistake was to give every eligible adult the $1,200 free check back in April. They could have given to those who lost their job or to small businesses. I know of several college students that grabbed that money to spend it on bikes, clothes, and las Vegas. California should let all small businesses open up to 50% capacity and the Walmart’s of the world to 25% capacity.
They added $250B to unemployment payments. They gave $850B in PPP to businesses incl small businesses. The individual checks "only" totaled $300B, and obviously some of that went to those who didn't need it, some who desperately needed it and some who were somewhere in between.

Here's a good overview, The $2 trillion CARES Act, a response to COVID-19, is equivalent to 45% of all 2019 federal spending - USAFacts

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I believe Redfield said the death toll could be 200k in the months of December through the end of February, not just December.

Based on your report that the US has suffered 36k deaths through just the first half of December so far .. do you still think they were predicting a bigger surge? It seems as though we are sadly on track to meet Redfield's prediction unless we continue to introduce mitigation measures (e.g., vaccinations, mask mandates, restricted indoor activities, etc.).


I have misread before, but didn't Redfield say 450,000 through the end of February?

"On Wednesday, Redfield said the U.S. could see 450,000 deaths over the next three months"
 
They added $250B to unemployment payments. They gave $850B in PPP to businesses incl small businesses. The individual checks "only" totaled $300B, and obviously some of that went to those who didn't need it, some who desperately needed it and some who were somewhere in between.

Here's a good overview, The $2 trillion CARES Act, a response to COVID-19, is equivalent to 45% of all 2019 federal spending - USAFacts

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Joel Osteen’s Lakewood Church received $4.4M COVID-19 PPP loan. Isn;t that special!!!!

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