Surf Cup's Fate

No. I don’t think it matters if your kids want to go to school in Florida or Arizona. However, I think it could be a factor in the analysis for kids wanting to attend California universities both public and private.

Not my moral code either. I just recognize that attending tournaments now is a politically charged issue and I hate to see these kids become victims of circumstance just because their parents are thinking short term. From my understanding, the top kids is this group have committed already. So, I don’t think the demographic that’s attending surf cup for film should do so because the marginal benefit (game film) is not worth the risk (exclusion from dream school). These kids are gonna be on their own and the “scapegoat” when the shit hits the fan.

My kid will be emailing every local college coach here that has corresponded with her and letting them know she is playing in Surf cup.
 
Look at the dates of that temporary stay. It was geared towards D1 coaches. My kid did a college clinic in Scottsdale 2 months and it was loaded with at least 12 coaches in attendance.
If you are referring to the Exact 50 Camp, they are usually very well run. There is another one scheduled for DEC 20 in Mesa.

For what it's worth, my oldest attended the large exact 50 camp last summer at Silver Lakes. 3 days of a lot of soccer and panels put on by coaches that covered the details of the recruiting process. Great exposure to coaches - they pushed the players to interact off the pitch. He reluctantly went and it paid dividends - it expanded his views of where he wanted to go. It also made him adjust his expectation, which is what many parents and players need.
 
So colleges around the country are going to be vetting student applications for Federal, state and local china virus compliance? Or just California colleges vetting California youth soccer players attending surf tournament? Sure seems like a fair balanced approach huh? What does a group of individuals on here, some with no kids involved in soccer continue to try and micro manage every aspect of this tournament with the gleeful hope of seeing the tournament canceled? You will be completely safe inside your bubble. Let adults make THEIR OWN adult decisions regarding their kids sports activities.
Don’t kill the messenger. Damn!
 
If you are referring to the Exact 50 Camp, they are usually very well run. There is another one scheduled for DEC 20 in Mesa.

For what it's worth, my oldest attended the large exact 50 camp last summer at Silver Lakes. 3 days of a lot of soccer and panels put on by coaches that covered the details of the recruiting process. Great exposure to coaches - they pushed the players to interact off the pitch. He reluctantly went and it paid dividends - it expanded his views of where he wanted to go. It also made him adjust his expectation, which is what many parents and players need.

Yes we have done 3 Exact 50 including the 3 day at silverlakes. My only complaint from the Mesa one is the game footage is difficult to use. Pink and light orange pennies in the scrimmage games make it difficult to follow the players. I have difficulty finding my own kid out there in the bright sunlight during the games but you are right they are well managed clinics.
 
Yes we have done 3 Exact 50 including the 3 day at silverlakes. My only complaint from the Mesa one is the game footage is difficult to use. Pink and light orange pennies in the scrimmage games make it difficult to follow the players. I have difficulty finding my own kid out there in the bright sunlight during the games but you are right they are well managed clinics.

The 3 days we attended summer of 2019 were excellent, provided much needed off the pitch interaction practice for my player. It set him up for success later that fall and into spring 2020. I thought their panel discussions were excellent and provided a ton of info that parents don't normally have access to, especially if your club likes to do all of the recruiting heavy lifting (and not involve parents until the financials come into play).
 
The 3 days we attended summer of 2019 were excellent, provided much needed off the pitch interaction practice for my player. It set him up for success later that fall and into spring 2020. I thought their panel discussions were excellent and provided a ton of info that parents don't normally have access to, especially if your club likes to do all of the recruiting heavy lifting (and not involve parents until the financials come into play).

Yes the 2019 camp was excellent from the girls side also.
 
It would be interesting if California required travelling teams to quarantine for 14 days AFTER returning from AZ...
They do require it, as do most local health authorities based on the CDPH Guidance. People are just ignoring it, but the clubs typically have agreed with the local authorities to require the quarantine as part of their return to play plans. Clubs don't want to end up in the newspaper with a big article that describes how there was an outbreak after teams returned from out of state. Some clubs just don't care and will do whatever they want because they believe there is a 0% chance that any of their players will get Covid while out of state at a tournament. There were articles in the Phoenix newspapers where the health authorities stated that they had identified the tournaments ( not any particular sport but they mentioned tournaments) as a source through contact tracing. It seems that many have ignored those reports but the reports did immediately precede the decision by Phoenix to close the fields. Anyone who chooses to travel out of state for non essential activities ( Surf Cup) should be prepared to quarantine for up to 14 days (may be less according to CDC guidance).
 
So colleges around the country are going to be vetting student applications for Federal, state and local china virus compliance? Or just California colleges vetting California youth soccer players attending surf tournament? Sure seems like a fair balanced approach huh? What does a group of individuals on here, some with no kids involved in soccer continue to try and micro manage every aspect of this tournament with the gleeful hope of seeing the tournament canceled? You will be completely safe inside your bubble. Let adults make THEIR OWN adult decisions regarding their kids sports activities.

Racist
 
Does anyone besides me think that attending Surf under the current conditions could violate some sort of university moral/ethics code and adversely impact your kids admissions packet?

I get what you're saying-- this is where the AD and the coach would have a good, long talk about why these kids feel pressured to provide "recent" game footage. I don't think the kid would be punished, but I'd be jotting down "tiger helicopter parents" in thick red sharpie next to that kid's name.
 
Please stop trying to practice law. First, CA is not a “right to work” state, what you meant is “at will” state. “Right to work” is a euphemism for employees free-loading off of their co-workers by taking all the benefits of a collective bargaining agreement without paying dues to the union.

Second, it is not necessarily true that an employer can simply fire someone for being the kind of a**hole you describe. There are other factors that come into play here. In many cases, an employer cannot terminate someone simply for refusing to take a covid test or refusing to quarantine. Certainly, employers should fire these employees when they can, since the behavior you describe is part of a larger problem - namely being a selfish a**hole who doesn’t care about the welfare of others.

I'm drinking heavily on this thread, don't get on my ass about the words right to work vs at will. ffs.
 
What rules are people violating? The shut down is for three weeks. That ends a week before Surf Cup. AZ has no shut down.
What do you think the chances are that it extends beyond 3 weeks? I am thinking to the end of January at the earliest.

Link has some bad words in it.

Gavin Holiday Greeting

 
What rules are people violating? The shut down is for three weeks. That ends a week before Surf Cup. AZ has no shut down.
They would never extend it past 21 days would they?

Once triggered, these orders will remain in effect for at least 3 weeks. After that period, they will be lifted when a region’s projected ICU capacity meets or exceeds 15%. This will be assessed on a weekly basis after the initial 3 week period.

All eyes in Southern California will be on the ICU capacity on 12/27 (too late to travel for the Surf Cup for Young ages). Some of the Northern California counties are voluntarily in lockdown as the Bay Area as not fallen below 15% yet. They intend to stay in lockdown as late as 1/9. Sacramento doesn't leave lockdown until 1/1 ( too late to travel to Surf Cup for Older ages.)

In the end people will do whatever they want. With any luck Surf Cup taking place doesn't lead to further negative consequences for youth sports in CA or AZ. All it takes is for one team to come back and have someone test positive even if they didn't get Covid 19 in Arizona. Maybe High School sports will start up sometime in January and games will start in February.

Looking forward to things getting back some sort of normal just in time for May/June tryouts. At that point people can re assess whether or not clubs had their own best interests in mind by traveling out of state and holding scrimmages when they weren't supposed to, or if they had the players' best interests in mind. Personally I feel the clubs are making poor and desperate decisions in order to try to compete for a few players that may bring them future prestige or development payments.
 
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Back to your bubble, bubble boy.
This is awesome bro. Solves the problem for the rich. Those with jobs for life and loads of dough, they keep asking wants wrong with folks and why they can;t just obey, wear mask and stay home. EOTL, how much money you got saved up? Copa? dad 4? Face dude, who does like it the face, do you have some extra funds to share? Can you all share with others in need on here? I'm going to open a thread for those in need. No job, no soccer, no March Madness, No Easter, No Memorial Day, No July 4th, no Beach, no Surf Cup, no ECNL, no Labor Day, no Halloween, no Surf Thanksgiving or Silver Lakes, no Christmas, no presents, no Vegas Cup, no School, no hs sports, no Disneyland, no church, no no no no. Just one big no. Plus, if you complain, you're a racist. If your white, you had it too good in this country and you now need to bend your knee and apologies for you being born here. All whites are all racists with privledge. This is what were all promised by the new leaders. Winter of Darkness ((3 months)), three months of hell, Bill Gates says this will go on well into 2022. The silver lining in all this is you get a vaccine when it's all said and done and you should be grateful and GTFO!!!!
 
What do you think the chances are that it extends beyond 3 weeks? I am thinking to the end of January at the earliest.

Link has some bad words in it.

Gavin Holiday Greeting


Where’d you go @Grace T., hater of politics on this forum? Or is it just those who do not share your POS POV?
 
Look, literally everything you said in your post was inaccurate, not just your terminology. Maybe you should stop drinking. ffs
Face is acting irrational and I now see how others could view me the same way. I do appreciate Face and all they bring to the forum. California is a "right to work" state was funny. What a privedge it is to have the right to work. So wonderful the state is. The problem is, no one is hiring unless you can teach or work at the city ot state level. I am one SOL resident. I was all set to help great restaurants with marketing and so many other things at the beginning of the year and now, no work. Can someone please help me out with some food?
 
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