Surf Cup's Fate

450 teams reconfirmed for Surf PHX with 50 new openings according to mail that went out over the weekend.

Our club doesn't normal play surf so just passing along some info heard recently from others.
 
For the record, if my dd was under 12 like Luis #2, I would be all over this tournament and singing Surf's praise for providing sports for my dd and entrainment for me in these challenging times. Extra fields means extra spaces and that means extra $$$$$. Olders, no thanks. California girls are not in shape, unless you have da keys to the gym ((soccer fields)). I speak gym because I had connections to some cool gyms back in the day and I got to train while others were in the cold park with the wind. Some clubs have connections and are ready to go all out for top coaches. My dd needs to play way more then friendlies. I spoke to top trainer and he said my dd needs two months before she is ready to go all ganas. HS Soccer, here we come!!!
 
Uh do all the college coaches attending violate YOUR moral code to?....lol....what a ridiculous post
Are coaches allowed to attend? It’s a real question because according to this ruling below they shouldn’t. I am just curious on how Surf is getting coaches to attend.

 
Uh do all the college coaches attending violate YOUR moral code to?....lol....what a ridiculous post
No. I don’t think it matters if your kids want to go to school in Florida or Arizona. However, I think it could be a factor in the analysis for kids wanting to attend California universities both public and private.

Not my moral code either. I just recognize that attending tournaments now is a politically charged issue and I hate to see these kids become victims of circumstance just because their parents are thinking short term. From my understanding, the top kids is this group have committed already. So, I don’t think the demographic that’s attending surf cup for film should do so because the marginal benefit (game film) is not worth the risk (exclusion from dream school). These kids are gonna be on their own and the “scapegoat” when the shit hits the fan.
 
Are coaches allowed to attend? It’s a real question because according to this ruling below they shouldn’t. I am just curious on how Surf is getting coaches to attend.


Look at the dates of that temporary stay. It was geared towards D1 coaches. My kid did a college clinic in Scottsdale 2 months and it was loaded with at least 12 coaches in attendance.
 
Are coaches allowed to attend? It’s a real question because according to this ruling below they shouldn’t. I am just curious on how Surf is getting coaches to attend.

D1 coaches cannot legally attend. d2/3/NAIA can.

Getting film of games vs decent competition almost as important a being seen in person at this point with the delay until mid April.
 
Does anyone besides me think that attending Surf under the current conditions could violate some sort of university moral/ethics code and adversely impact your kids admissions packet?


It would be interesting if California required travelling teams to quarantine for 14 days AFTER returning from AZ...
 
No. I don’t think it matters if your kids want to go to school in Florida or Arizona. However, I think it could be a factor in the analysis for kids wanting to attend California universities both public and private.

Not my moral code either. I just recognize that attending tournaments now is a politically charged issue and I hate to see these kids become victims of circumstance just because their parents are thinking short term. From my understanding, the top kids is this group have committed already. So, I don’t think the demographic that’s attending surf cup for film should do so because the marginal benefit (game film) is not worth the risk (exclusion from dream school). These kids are gonna be on their own and the “scapegoat” when the shit hits the fan.

So colleges around the country are going to be vetting student applications for Federal, state and local china virus compliance? Or just California colleges vetting California youth soccer players attending surf tournament? Sure seems like a fair balanced approach huh? What does a group of individuals on here, some with no kids involved in soccer continue to try and micro manage every aspect of this tournament with the gleeful hope of seeing the tournament canceled? You will be completely safe inside your bubble. Let adults make THEIR OWN adult decisions regarding their kids sports activities.
 
No. I don’t think it matters if your kids want to go to school in Florida or Arizona. However, I think it could be a factor in the analysis for kids wanting to attend California universities both public and private.

Not my moral code either. I just recognize that attending tournaments now is a politically charged issue and I hate to see these kids become victims of circumstance just because their parents are thinking short term. From my understanding, the top kids is this group have committed already. So, I don’t think the demographic that’s attending surf cup for film should do so because the marginal benefit (game film) is not worth the risk (exclusion from dream school). These kids are gonna be on their own and the “scapegoat” when the shit hits the fan.
My dd wants to stay and play in California dream weather school Dre and you are sounding very wise more and more. My dd spoke to one awesome coach and they are focused on seeing who wants to come back for extra year and what 2021 have changed their minds. 2022s have some time but I agree, the best of the best are signed. I have my sights on big time Socal HS Soccer where some of these top coaches will get their first look at who has stayed in shape and who is battle tested. End of Feb the HS season begins. It's not just fun, it's all about the "Road to Ford Focus CIF Finals." Live on Cox Sports West in June 2021!!!
 
No. I don’t think it matters if your kids want to go to school in Florida or Arizona. However, I think it could be a factor in the analysis for kids wanting to attend California universities both public and private.

Not my moral code either. I just recognize that attending tournaments now is a politically charged issue and I hate to see these kids become victims of circumstance just because their parents are thinking short term. From my understanding, the top kids is this group have committed already. So, I don’t think the demographic that’s attending surf cup for film should do so because the marginal benefit (game film) is not worth the risk (exclusion from dream school). These kids are gonna be on their own and the “scapegoat” when the shit hits the fan.

My kid will be emailing every local college coach here that has corresponded with her and letting them know she is playing in Surf cup.
 
Look at the dates of that temporary stay. It was geared towards D1 coaches. My kid did a college clinic in Scottsdale 2 months and it was loaded with at least 12 coaches in attendance.
If you are referring to the Exact 50 Camp, they are usually very well run. There is another one scheduled for DEC 20 in Mesa.

For what it's worth, my oldest attended the large exact 50 camp last summer at Silver Lakes. 3 days of a lot of soccer and panels put on by coaches that covered the details of the recruiting process. Great exposure to coaches - they pushed the players to interact off the pitch. He reluctantly went and it paid dividends - it expanded his views of where he wanted to go. It also made him adjust his expectation, which is what many parents and players need.
 
So colleges around the country are going to be vetting student applications for Federal, state and local china virus compliance? Or just California colleges vetting California youth soccer players attending surf tournament? Sure seems like a fair balanced approach huh? What does a group of individuals on here, some with no kids involved in soccer continue to try and micro manage every aspect of this tournament with the gleeful hope of seeing the tournament canceled? You will be completely safe inside your bubble. Let adults make THEIR OWN adult decisions regarding their kids sports activities.
Don’t kill the messenger. Damn!
 
If you are referring to the Exact 50 Camp, they are usually very well run. There is another one scheduled for DEC 20 in Mesa.

For what it's worth, my oldest attended the large exact 50 camp last summer at Silver Lakes. 3 days of a lot of soccer and panels put on by coaches that covered the details of the recruiting process. Great exposure to coaches - they pushed the players to interact off the pitch. He reluctantly went and it paid dividends - it expanded his views of where he wanted to go. It also made him adjust his expectation, which is what many parents and players need.

Yes we have done 3 Exact 50 including the 3 day at silverlakes. My only complaint from the Mesa one is the game footage is difficult to use. Pink and light orange pennies in the scrimmage games make it difficult to follow the players. I have difficulty finding my own kid out there in the bright sunlight during the games but you are right they are well managed clinics.
 
Yes we have done 3 Exact 50 including the 3 day at silverlakes. My only complaint from the Mesa one is the game footage is difficult to use. Pink and light orange pennies in the scrimmage games make it difficult to follow the players. I have difficulty finding my own kid out there in the bright sunlight during the games but you are right they are well managed clinics.

The 3 days we attended summer of 2019 were excellent, provided much needed off the pitch interaction practice for my player. It set him up for success later that fall and into spring 2020. I thought their panel discussions were excellent and provided a ton of info that parents don't normally have access to, especially if your club likes to do all of the recruiting heavy lifting (and not involve parents until the financials come into play).
 
The 3 days we attended summer of 2019 were excellent, provided much needed off the pitch interaction practice for my player. It set him up for success later that fall and into spring 2020. I thought their panel discussions were excellent and provided a ton of info that parents don't normally have access to, especially if your club likes to do all of the recruiting heavy lifting (and not involve parents until the financials come into play).

Yes the 2019 camp was excellent from the girls side also.
 
It would be interesting if California required travelling teams to quarantine for 14 days AFTER returning from AZ...
They do require it, as do most local health authorities based on the CDPH Guidance. People are just ignoring it, but the clubs typically have agreed with the local authorities to require the quarantine as part of their return to play plans. Clubs don't want to end up in the newspaper with a big article that describes how there was an outbreak after teams returned from out of state. Some clubs just don't care and will do whatever they want because they believe there is a 0% chance that any of their players will get Covid while out of state at a tournament. There were articles in the Phoenix newspapers where the health authorities stated that they had identified the tournaments ( not any particular sport but they mentioned tournaments) as a source through contact tracing. It seems that many have ignored those reports but the reports did immediately precede the decision by Phoenix to close the fields. Anyone who chooses to travel out of state for non essential activities ( Surf Cup) should be prepared to quarantine for up to 14 days (may be less according to CDC guidance).
 
So colleges around the country are going to be vetting student applications for Federal, state and local china virus compliance? Or just California colleges vetting California youth soccer players attending surf tournament? Sure seems like a fair balanced approach huh? What does a group of individuals on here, some with no kids involved in soccer continue to try and micro manage every aspect of this tournament with the gleeful hope of seeing the tournament canceled? You will be completely safe inside your bubble. Let adults make THEIR OWN adult decisions regarding their kids sports activities.

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