At least for workplaces, it seems they have a strong case that the employee puts their coworkers at risk by failing to quarantine. I would not want to bet against employers being able to fire an employee in such a case. I can even see the union taking either side.
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notintheface
GOLD
As California is a right to work state, you can be fired for any reason, including refusing to test or quarantine.
Yes, that is true. I had a friend who owned a company and he caught one of his employee stealing, on camera. This dude was so pissed. Drove to the thief's house and called him out. Fired his ass on the spot. Guess what? Thief sued employer for a few things that the employer was doing wrong and it ended up costing my pal $30,000 to settle. He wasnt documenting the thief's lunch times ((construction)) for over two yeas and got back pay plus attorneys got $10K each for a days work. The moral of the story my pal said? Find a way to get the thief to just quit.......it's way cheaper. It was just some old copper pipes worth $90 and ended up costing my pal $30,000 because he can fire anyone. Dummy!!! Lesson learned
Chalklines
GOLD
Would rather require family's not to go galavanting around town and lay low at the hotel then test. Let them take the stupid out of the stupids.
ITFC Blues
SILVER
Our club has stated that they are following CDC guidelines regarding personal travel so if you leave the state for personal or club travel you can either get tested and return to training after 7 days with a negative test, or return to training after 10 days if you didn't get tested.
Aside from the employment laws they ( your club or work) might not be able to require you to quarantine, but they can tell you to stay away, which is effectively a quarantine from them.
They also stated that the club won't be traveling under the current conditions due to US Club Soccer viewing the California travel restrictions as a mandate meaning that travel would put them out of compliance with US Club Soccer rules, invalidating any insurance.
It's possible that any tournament that accepts them might also be at risk as their tournament insurance might night cover the tournament if they accept them and let them play without insurance.
NumberTen
SILVER ELITE
This just in...
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Please stop trying to practice law. First, CA is not a “right to work” state, what you meant is “at will” state. “Right to work” is a euphemism for employees free-loading off of their co-workers by taking all the benefits of a collective bargaining agreement without paying dues to the union.
Second, it is not necessarily true that an employer can simply fire someone for being the kind of a**hole you describe. There are other factors that come into play here. In many cases, an employer cannot terminate someone simply for refusing to take a covid test or refusing to quarantine. Certainly, employers should fire these employees when they can, since the behavior you describe is part of a larger problem - namely being a selfish a**hole who doesn’t care about the welfare of others.
In other words, the tournament is half the size, and even after they called up all the rejected teams, they still have slots open.
Ouch.
Glitterhater
SILVER ELITE
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Honestly, at this point I think that even if each team had just another couple of teams to play against, they'd be happy. At least it's something for those that are all-in.
Roughly 400 teams, maybe a bit more have pulled out. Have to hand it to their communications teams, they are doing admirable work. And looks like Scottsdale will honor the contract. Great fields. We'll see what other fields they've been able to harvest. I would guess fields out in the west valley.
They won't have the capability to live stream but at least they will provide video support.
I visited an open site this morning out of curiosity. Cute to see 8 to 12 year olds hustling around a soccer field like a swarm of bees, but for me, it underscores how ridiculous it is to have U littles travel to AZ for a tournament...
As exciting as it is for parents to see their kids play and yell “take the shot!” Or “take it all the way!”, it’s just a poor use of time and effort- all the more so with hospitals filling to the brim out there.
Wish everyone well that does go, but time with your little players might be better spent doing some more training drills at home.
As exciting as it is for parents to see their kids play and yell “take the shot!” Or “take it all the way!”, it’s just a poor use of time and effort- all the more so with hospitals filling to the brim out there.
Wish everyone well that does go, but time with your little players might be better spent doing some more training drills at home.
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LOL best line by far. So that's why you have more space for 50 teams? OK, got it.
MacDre
PREMIER
It’s been said that “pimpin ain’t easy” but at times necessary.
Good luck to the kids going to Surf.
nextgenathletics
BRONZE
Naw.
MacDre
PREMIER
wow
MacDre
PREMIER
Yep. I actually think its kinda dumb to record oneself violating rules and then submit the recording to a university in hopes of gaining admission. Your thoughts?
Glitterhater
SILVER ELITE
I would never have thought of that. Interesting. I couldn't even guess if it'll be detrimental.
I don't have a highschooler but I sure hope they, (out of all those going,) are shown some grace. So, I'd hope not.
amusing angle on it.
unfortunately, I suspect more coaches expect you to be willing to break the rules, but only when they ask you to.
Nope, not if you are auditioning for a coveted Pac 12 roster slot.