Surf Cup's Fate

Get well soon.

Let's be honest though, If surf happens, it will be a watered down event. Lots of ECNL and GA teams are not coming. I suppose others will follow suit. There may be enough team attrition at this point that 1 or 2 mediocre facilities will suffice.

Absolutely agree it appears some teams decided not to go. I know a lot of teams applied and did get accepted, perhaps they will get contacted again by Surf and accepted now.

I guess we will have wait till they post the schedule to see what teams are in. I do know ECNL and GA teams are going to play. I wonder if most of the teams that changed their mind are youngers? Seems like older teams who are juniors and seniors might be more inclined to go even if the amount of coaches there may not be the usual number. Also it's good for the olders to get some video highlights for their perspective college coaches to view.
 
Absolutely agree it appears some teams decided not to go. I know a lot of teams applied and did get accepted, perhaps they will get contacted again by Surf and accepted now.

I guess we will have wait till they post the schedule to see what teams are in. I do know ECNL and GA teams are going to play. I wonder if most of the teams that changed their mind are youngers? Seems like older teams who are juniors and seniors might be more inclined to go even if the amount of coaches there may not be the usual number. Also it's good for the olders to get some video highlights for their perspective college coaches to view.
Quite a few GA and ECNL teams have dropped already. I think the list from this thread is : Davis, Mustang, Thorns, Slammers, Beach, Quakes. Maybe more.

Do you know of anyone other than Blues and Surf who are definitely going?
 
Absolutely agree it appears some teams decided not to go. I know a lot of teams applied and did get accepted, perhaps they will get contacted again by Surf and accepted now.

I guess we will have wait till they post the schedule to see what teams are in. I do know ECNL and GA teams are going to play. I wonder if most of the teams that changed their mind are youngers? Seems like older teams who are juniors and seniors might be more inclined to go even if the amount of coaches there may not be the usual number. Also it's good for the olders to get some video highlights for their perspective college coaches to view.

I will say this, after speaking with local college coaches post ECNL AZ showcase ---> The streaming video wasn't very good. Depending on the platform used (I'm no expert), they recommend cutting up highlights and sending. They did dedicate hours to watching the live stream but their feedback was that it was very hard to watch and very easy to not pay attention. There were plenty of D2/D3/NAIA coaches on the sideline for the ECNL AZ event. I would guess there are going to be less in attendance this time around.

Unfortunately Un-committed or unseen 2021s and 22s are in a bad spot. Time to crank up the email and youtube machine for coach/program outreach.

The current fate of players will not influence decisions made by the city of scottsdale and others. It will be a central tenet of Surf's argument for moving forward with the tournament.
 
Just have 2 VERY disappointed DD’s as they both need fresh footage for recruiting purposes.

Some advice-- don't let them be too disappointed, college coaches this year are (mostly) not demanding 2020 game footage. A simple discussion will get you squared away. Help them keep their grades up and that will do much more for their prospects than a few minutes of working in a rusty environment.
 
I will say this, after speaking with local college coaches post ECNL AZ showcase ---> The streaming video wasn't very good. Depending on the platform used (I'm no expert), they recommend cutting up highlights and sending. They did dedicate hours to watching the live stream but their feedback was that it was very hard to watch and very easy to not pay attention. There were plenty of D2/D3/NAIA coaches on the sideline for the ECNL AZ event. I would guess there are going to be less in attendance this time around.

Unfortunately Un-committed or unseen 2021s and 22s are in a bad spot. Time to crank up the email and youtube machine for coach/program outreach.

The current fate of players will not influence decisions made by the city of scottsdale and others. It will be a central tenet of Surf's argument for moving forward with the tournament.
Under these circumstances those privately paid for showcases may be worth a look at for film. However, some may still shy away because of the location.
 
Quite a few GA and ECNL teams have dropped already. I think the list from this thread is : Davis, Mustang, Thorns, Slammers, Beach, Quakes. Maybe more.

Do you know of anyone other than Blues and Surf who are definitely going?

What about legends, strikers, arsenal, rebels etc.....
 
I will say this, after speaking with local college coaches post ECNL AZ showcase ---> The streaming video wasn't very good. Depending on the platform used (I'm no expert), they recommend cutting up highlights and sending. They did dedicate hours to watching the live stream but their feedback was that it was very hard to watch and very easy to not pay attention. There were plenty of D2/D3/NAIA coaches on the sideline for the ECNL AZ event. I would guess there are going to be less in attendance this time around.

Unfortunately Un-committed or unseen 2021s and 22s are in a bad spot. Time to crank up the email and youtube machine for coach/program outreach.

The current fate of players will not influence decisions made by the city of scottsdale and others. It will be a central tenet of Surf's argument for moving forward with the tournament.

The game footage we get is clear 4k not live stream. Very good for creating highlight video clips. My kid will email her college preferences coach with game schedule and invite them to watch but if they cant do that she will send them highlight clip.
 
Under these circumstances those privately paid for showcases may be worth a look at for film. However, some may still shy away because of the location.
No doubt. It's also what Surf is banking on in order maintain interest. It's an unfortunate situation for all, especially if CA players don't have a clear pathway to commence play. They will be the collateral damage in all of this. There is good enough reason to NOT hold Surf. It won't soothe the feelings of players who are determined to play at the next level and were hoping to leverage a Surf event to help them get there. If you have an ECNL player, at least you have film from the fall season and from the showcase. If you have a GA player, you also have film from this past season. Both leagues are doing a decent job elevating and endorsing video on their players behalf.
 
Some advice-- don't let them be too disappointed, college coaches this year are (mostly) not demanding 2020 game footage. A simple discussion will get you squared away. Help them keep their grades up and that will do much more for their prospects than a few minutes of working in a rusty environment.
Both have solid grades are doing volunteer work when and where possible and continue to train multiple times a week. My oldest was watching NCAA games of the schools she’s been interested in and emailing the Coaches about what she saw in each game.

Tough words for her to swallow as she watched friends play in the Showcase in November and the one in SC recently. “Lots of other kids Are getting footage...blah blah”. This to will pass, just not easy navigating with 2 teenage DD’s.
 
I will say this, after speaking with local college coaches post ECNL AZ showcase ---> The streaming video wasn't very good. Depending on the platform used (I'm no expert), they recommend cutting up highlights and sending. They did dedicate hours to watching the live stream but their feedback was that it was very hard to watch and very easy to not pay attention. There were plenty of D2/D3/NAIA coaches on the sideline for the ECNL AZ event. I would guess there are going to be less in attendance this time around.

Unfortunately Un-committed or unseen 2021s and 22s are in a bad spot. Time to crank up the email and youtube machine for coach/program outreach.

The current fate of players will not influence decisions made by the city of scottsdale and others. It will be a central tenet of Surf's argument for moving forward with the tournament.

This all does suck for many 2021s and 22s. For many years I have recommended the benefits of playing for one of those few coaches (I think I actually coined the term “queenmaker”) who have real connections and whose recommendation to a college coach is as good as gold.

Even for 2023s and later, there is a significant risk that your kid will not be “found” given the highly uncertain status of the youth soccer landscape right now. If you want to take your chances as one of the thousands sending unsolicited emails with cute videos, and playing for a small club with a coach who goes to voicemail when he calls Radcliffe, Cromwell or anyone, go for it. But you know for sure that with the likes of Baker in the south and Deza in the north, a single phone call is all it takes. That’s it. Your kid gets to play anywhere they want if they’re good enough.
 
Come on man, it would take a Surf Cup every single day for ten years to even get to 1% of Arizona's net GDP. Let's not delude ourselves with the real economic impact of one tournament.
Lol! You wanna compare state GDP to one soccer tournament? Okay lets annualize their economic impact. It's actually 2%.....a year.
 
Both have solid grades are doing volunteer work when and where possible and continue to train multiple times a week. My oldest was watching NCAA games of the schools she’s been interested in and emailing the Coaches about what she saw in each game.

Tough words for her to swallow as she watched friends play in the Showcase in November and the one in SC recently. “Lots of other kids Are getting footage...blah blah”. This to will pass, just not easy navigating with 2 teenage DD’s.
NOTHING is easy with teenage girls, I feel you!
 
Happy9 we get it. You do not want the Surf Cup to happen. Can you take your pessimistic attitude off these boards. There are plenty of top ECNL clubs going to Surf. A handful of clubs out of So Cal not attending is hardly a big deal. Coaches are recruiting off of video. You are such a downer on this post. Your username is ironic.
 
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