Surf Cup's Fate

EOTL said:
Sounds good. I promise to hold off for the 5 minutes it will take someone to continue derailing it.
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Thank you! @Grace T. please do the same. I think at this point the three of us are aligned on this important issue of Surf Cup. Let's not lose focus here.
 
Bruddah IZ said:
In a non hysterical, non covid world, Surf is a go in San Diego generating $139 million according to SDSU. In a non hysterical, non covid world, PGA drops 100k fans on the course each day. That's not happening this year. I haven't been called to work the 16th hole yet. Usually get called in November.
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And those are good $$$. Surf is generally concentrated in and around the SD area. Surf in AZ will not go that route. There will be fields all over the valley, in different cities.

Scottsdale is looking at $400M for the Phoenix Open and $169M for Barret-Jackson. There are other events in JAN (Arabian Horse show). My point is that Surf has an uphill battle trying to prove that the numbers work for the City of Scottsdale. They don't work. Without the City of Scottsdale fields, Surf is hard pressed to claim this a top shelf event played on world class fields. These are the only ones left..
 
happy9 said:
And those are good $$$. Surf is generally concentrated in and around the SD area. Surf in AZ will not go that route. There will be fields all over the valley, in different cities.

Scottsdale is looking at $400M for the Phoenix Open and $169M for Barret-Jackson. There are other events in JAN (Arabian Horse show). My point is that Surf has an uphill battle trying to prove that the numbers work for the City of Scottsdale. They don't work. Without the City of Scottsdale fields, Surf is hard pressed to claim this as an showcase style event played on great fields. These are the only ones left..
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fyi, i don't think PGA is allowing spectators at any events any time soon. Just like 2020, it's PGA's call not the individual states'. Definitely not Q1 2021.
 
EOTL said:
Actually it is easy. Don’t discuss politics. There is a huge difference between saying the Phoenix City Council voted to ban soccer games - which is a fact - and then following that up with your bizarre nonsense about how their decisions are not based on your non-scientific understanding of what science actually is, coupled with your buddies’ racist references to china virus for the pure sake of crossing the line and gratuitous commentary about greasy Gavin Newsom.

The reality is the City of Phoenix and others are using real science and data relating to spread that accounts for reality, rather than the fantasy that U11 year olds teleport from all over the country and straight back so therefore it’s fine and the dumbs**t fathers who think it’s all a hoax don’t also go also and spread it like crazy. The idiots here are only looking at the risk on the field itself, which constitutes maybe 3% of their time traveling and in AZ. The City Council is concerned about the real risk - the other 97% and all the idiot parent superspreaders who never step onto the field. They’re looking at data about how it is transmitted in travel, at hospital and ICU usage, at current infection rates and trends, at the dangers and risks associated with large gatherings in their entirety, not whether Kaitlin gives it to Caitlyn slide tackling her.

The City of Phoenix did what it did because it wants to keep people alive, and its actions will help. So did the City of Santa Clara. So too the entire State of CA. There is literally no legitimate argument that making it incredibly difficult for idiots like @Grace T. and @Lavey29 and @MSK357 travel to another state and do the dumb things they do to spread Covid doesn’t save lives. Maybe you’re ok with 300,000 dead people and another 3000 a day. Maybe you’re disappointed that your kid can’t play Surf Cup. But when y’all start whining that enough people aren’t dying fast enough to justify keeping Sally from lacing them up in AZ and blaming politicians for nothing more than making a decision you don’t like, you have crossed the line, and I’m here to remind you.
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You are one wierd sheep Ewok. Is it true you have NO kids at playing soccer at all yet you type your nonsense on here and all over the other forums here 24/7. I know you are angry and extremely disappointed the Surf cup is on and parents are excited to see their kids compete. I think the parents are just as excited and happy as our kids are to take the pitch. All my kids games will be 4K video so just say the word and I'll send you the links so you can watch some great soccer play. I think if you just relax with a cocktail and turn the lights down inside the bubble you would really enjoy watching the kids play the sport they love. Your posts are becoming extremely bitter and angry and I'm concerned about your mental well being and feel I can do a crisis intervention and make your day just a little better in the bubble.
 
oh canada said:
fyi, i don't think PGA is allowing spectators at any events any time soon. Just like 2020, it's PGA's call not the individual states'. Definitely not Q1 2021.
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They will certainly be challenged. This event is people driven and not necessarily "golf" driven.
 
Grace T. said:
It will probably shock you to hear, but given the ER argument happy has raised, I actually agree it's not the best time to be holding tournaments. I wouldn't send my kid to a tournament while the ERs are stressed, even though he's already had it. I respect, though, the right of others to make a different decision.



Best you got? I'm pointing out a rules violation, not expressing a political opinion.
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Surf Cup's Fate

The City of Phoenix did what it did because it wants to keep people alive, and its actions will help. So did the City of Santa Clara. So too the entire State of CA. There is literally no legitimate argument that making it incredibly difficult for idiots like @Grace T. and @Lavey29 and @MSK357...
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Lavey29 said:
You are one wierd sheep Ewok. Is it true you have NO kids at playing soccer at all yet you type your nonsense on here and all over the other forums here 24/7. I know you are angry and extremely disappointed the Surf cup is on and parents are excited to see their kids compete. I think the parents are just as excited and happy as our kids are to take the pitch. All my kids games will be 4K video so just say the word and I'll send you the links so you can watch some great soccer play. I think if you just relax with a cocktail and turn the lights down inside the bubble you would really enjoy watching the kids play the sport they love. Your posts are becoming extremely bitter and angry and I'm concerned about your mental well being and feel I can do a crisis intervention and make your day just a little better in the bubble.
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22 minutes @oh canada...

I’m sure you’re thrilled that your daughter’s team will be one of the two that haven’t backed out. They will finally make the finals of a tournament!

And so great that your daughter’s game will be streamed. Has anyone here ever heard of such a thing?
 
EOTL said:
22 minutes @oh canada...

I’m sure you’re thrilled that your daughter’s team will be one of the two that haven’t backed out. They will finally make the finals of a tournament!

And so great that your daughter’s game will be streamed. Has anyone here ever heard of such a thing?
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By the way, I'm typing from my hospital bed after my surgery. I can tell you with absolute certainty that the hospital is far from overcrowded. Actually winning tournaments is not high priority in my opinion. I tell my daughter that development is key. Focus on becoming a better all around player. Be consistent in your strengths and really focus on improving your weaknesses during the match. My kid can really ball but like all players professional and amateur, there is always room for improvement. Set the bar and work hard to get there then move the bar up to more notches. The competition will be great at surf cup. Lots of ECNL teams and even GA coming in for the cup. I still want to help you out because I actually feel sorry for you. So just let me know and we can start the crisis intervention before it's to late...
 
Jose has returned said:
So if I use that logic i would never have my kid play in any sport. That is always a risk just like going to work or getting on an airplane.
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You are clearly just thinking about yourself. My point is, if God forbid anything would happen, you would be taking your kid to an AZ hospital which is already overburdened. I'm thinking about the residents of AZ and the healthcare workers there that have enough on their plate without having some selfish asshole from CA come in and play in a meaningless tournament. Do you get that or do you need further explanation?:rolleyes:
 
Lavey29 said:
By the way, I'm typing from my hospital bed after my surgery. I can tell you with absolute certainty that the hospital is far from overcrowded. Actually winning tournaments is not high priority in my opinion. I tell my daughter that development is key. Focus on becoming a better all around player. Be consistent in your strengths and really focus on improving your weaknesses during the match. My kid can really ball but like all players professional and amateur, there is always room for improvement. Set the bar and work hard to get there then move the bar up to more notches. The competition will be great at surf cup. Lots of ECNL teams and even GA coming in for the cup. I still want to help you out because I actually feel sorry for you. So just let me know and we can start the crisis intervention before it's to late...
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Get well soon.

Let's be honest though, If surf happens, it will be a watered down event. Lots of ECNL and GA teams are not coming. I suppose others will follow suit. There may be enough team attrition at this point that 1 or 2 mediocre facilities will suffice.
 
happy9 said:
I think you are missing the point. Today, in AZ, if you are injured and require transport to the ER, 52% of ER beds are being used by Covid Patients.

You will not be allowed to transport with your family member inside of an ambulance. And it's likely that you will not be allowed to enter the treatment area. It's hospital dependent but you can see how much of an inconvenience getting injured right now may be. There is a significant barrier to treatment right now in ERs - it's called the rona.

Just some things to consider. The logic applied to this specific scenario, by logic alone, is different than the considerations a year ago if your child was injured on the pitch. They just are, these are the facts as we know them today.
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Thank you for spelling it out for this dude.
 
happy9 said:
Get well soon.

Let's be honest though, If surf happens, it will be a watered down event. Lots of ECNL and GA teams are not coming. I suppose others will follow suit. There may be enough team attrition at this point that 1 or 2 mediocre facilities will suffice.
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Greater Sacramento goes into Regional Stay at home midnight tomorrow night so I would expect any remaining Sacramento area teams to drop out.
 
happy9 said:
And those are good $$$. Surf is generally concentrated in and around the SD area. Surf in AZ will not go that route. There will be fields all over the valley, in different cities.

Scottsdale is looking at $400M for the Phoenix Open and $169M for Barret-Jackson. There are other events in JAN (Arabian Horse show). My point is that Surf has an uphill battle trying to prove that the numbers work for the City of Scottsdale. They don't work. Without the City of Scottsdale fields, Surf is hard pressed to claim this a top shelf event played on world class fields. These are the only ones left..
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Someone gave Surf Cup Sports the go ahead. I assume it made $ense to do so given that the aforementioned events will not generate the same revenues.
 
Lavey29 said:
By the way, I'm typing from my hospital bed after my surgery. I can tell you with absolute certainty that the hospital is far from overcrowded. Actually winning tournaments is not high priority in my opinion. I tell my daughter that development is key. Focus on becoming a better all around player. Be consistent in your strengths and really focus on improving your weaknesses during the match. My kid can really ball but like all players professional and amateur, there is always room for improvement. Set the bar and work hard to get there then move the bar up to more notches. The competition will be great at surf cup. Lots of ECNL teams and even GA coming in for the cup. I still want to help you out because I actually feel sorry for you. So just let me know and we can start the crisis intervention before it's to late...
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That’s so great that you’re in CA, where the death rate is currently 38 out of 50, and the lowest of any state with a major city. Not so great in Phoenix these days. https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/l...capacity-and-staffing-amid-new-covid-19-surge

Let me know if your kid ever makes it onto the Pac-12 Network. Because, as @crush can attest, there is a very real chance that a baller at 11 will not be quite the same baller relative to her peers at 14, let alone 18.
 
Bruddah IZ said:
Someone gave Surf Cup Sports the go ahead. I assume it made $ense to do so given that the aforementioned events will not generate the same revenues.
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Yep, someone approved it. Conditions in AZ and CA have changed. Stuff is being cancelled left and right. ICU beds have filled up and politicians are getting antsy.
 
happy9 said:
I think you are missing the point. Today, in AZ, if you are injured and require transport to the ER, 52% of ER beds are being used by Covid Patients.

You will not be allowed to transport with your family member inside of an ambulance. And it's likely that you will not be allowed to enter the treatment area. It's hospital dependent but you can see how much of an inconvenience getting injured right now may be. There is a significant barrier to treatment right now in ERs - it's called the rona.

Just some things to consider. The logic applied to this specific scenario, by logic alone, is different than the considerations a year ago if your child was injured on the pitch. They just are, these are the facts as we know them today.
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yes, i have considered that. I would travel with my player in a ambulance I would drive my own car so that I have a ride home.
Calisoccer11 said:
You are clearly just thinking about yourself. My point is, if God forbid anything would happen, you would be taking your kid to an AZ hospital which is already overburdened. I'm thinking about the residents of AZ and the healthcare workers there that have enough on their plate without having some selfish asshole from CA come in and play in a meaningless tournament. Do you get that or do you need further explanation?:rolleyes:
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please explain more
 
EOTL said:
That’s so great that you’re in CA, where the death rate is currently 38 out of 50, and the lowest of any state with a major city. Not so great in Phoenix these days. https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/l...capacity-and-staffing-amid-new-covid-19-surge

Let me know if your kid ever makes it onto the Pac-12 Network. Because, as @crush can attest, there is a very real chance that a baller at 11 will not be quite the same baller relative to her peers at 14, let alone 18.
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I agree but more like 13, not 11. When the adults _________________________and___________________________________ its best to be a kid and just play with your friends and not fly all over the country believing the lies. She made the right call and she is skipping all this and going pro in Greece or France in 2022. You & Canada can have college. Skip the power 5 and go pro, bro :) Get real brother EOTLespola.....lol
 
Calisoccer11 said:
Thank you for spelling it out for this dude.
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who do you think you are? you don't know anything about me or my situation. quit your virtual signaling and sit down. The AZ residents don't know who you are or give a crap about you. Go back into your bubble and stay there until you are told to come out. I'll be in AZ. Ill bet I don't even get covid or spread it? how much would you like to wager? put up or shut up
 
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