Surf Cup's Fate

and good for Natives FC as well, not knocking them just at all. If I was smart Id open a facility with 6 futsal fields in OC and copy US5 and charge every thru the nose .
 
You do realize that it is the California Department of Public Health that is making the restrictions and Gavin Newsom is taking their recommendation? The CDPH is asking people to act for the greater good and not to make decisions based on their personal desires. The issue is not reality with the playing of games. The issue is with people leaving their local area and spreading the virus to other areas, or bringing it back from another area. If people have to skip a meaningless soccer tournament that's not a huge sacrifice. All of the tournaments are diluted and don't reflect reality so they are not a measure of anything right now. Players aren't in condition, have guest players, are missing players, etc. Surf keeps saying the coaches requested the tournament and that's why they are holding it, which I find hard to believe. This is about Surf and their financial needs and their ego. People can go ahead and ignore the state's order / request but should at least respect the request to quarantine for 14 days upon their return, and stay in their house for the full 14 days. Stock up on groceries in Arizona and bring them home and shut the door.
Surf had a an overwhelming number of applications. Teams want to go. If your team is not in shape, maybe your kids/coach need to get after it. My kid's team is just fine. Played games, healthy. Properly trained. No need for guest players. Attendance is nearly perfect. It sounds like your team was not accepted and you are now sour grapes. Kids mental health is worth a lot to people. If Newsom let us play games in state we would not have to leave. He is pushing us to travel.
 
Im optimistic and hope that they can make it happen for the kids (and us parents).

Quick question are they wording it correctly

YOU CANNOT GO OUT OF STATE or ITS RECOMMENDED NOT TO GO OUT OF STATE.

After to going to AZ multiple times, I believe it will happen , and if it gets cancelled I wont be suprised but Im a half full type of person.

Lastly this Natives FC place that everyone is going goo goo gaga over is 100% taking advantage of the money making opportunity presented to them and others(So whats the difference there) , Surf is no different , always been a fun tournament with goods teams and I hope it stay that way somehow.

I hope Surf can pull thru and and make it happen somehow.
Just wait until CNN runs with the story again. The liberal media will be seeking jail time for the Directors of Surf Cup.
 
You are completely missing the point, which was about the insurance to cover the inevitable lawsuits that come out of random situations. YOU are not a special little snowflake who everyone else should look up to with their behavior because once it's your kid, guess what, all of these words that you're typing to desperately defend shitty tournament directors, all of those words go out the window.

Please stop trying to stick up for con men.
Not what I'm saying. Clubs have a responsibility to obtain liability insurance for tournaments. Parents need to take responsibility for their own choices and risks. I know its part of the entitlement culture to play the victim and look for someone to blame (with deep pockets or insurance), but I wish it would stop.

You have no clue about what I would do or not do. My daughter was born premature and had to be resuscitated at birth from a botched amnio by the doctor in addition to cutting her head open in the crash C section ( a scar she still has but fortunately hidden along her hairline). I could have easily walked away with $$$ but chose not to pursue the matter.
 
I do agree the surf tournament directors will be somewhat logistically challenged but I'm sure they will receive coordinated help from the Arizona clubs. That's one thing cool about soccer is that different clubs in different regions and even different states typically dont hesitate to help another club if the situation calls for it. It really is a united overall effort around the country to make youth soccer successful and a positive experience for the kids. Even more so now with the China virus
Yea, not happening. RSL - AZ may be interested but many clubs will likely not lift a finger to help administrate this thing. This is a nice to have, not a must have. The collateral damage of having Surf could jeopardize AZ run tournaments in FEB. I would wager that many AZ clubs wouldn't have their feelings hurt if Surf just went away.
Every public health official in AZ is saying this is a bad idea. ICU beds today are at 92%. Cannon fodder for our media. Hospitals don't make as much money when their ICU beds are full of CV19 patients. They are screaming about this as well, but don't be mistaken, they are screaming because they don't want to draw down on elective surgeries and have to expand bed capacity. Spend money to not make money is not their thing.

The more I think about it, the more I realize that Surf is just being an a$$hole and a bully. And it goes without saying that I am a fan of playing.
 
Surf had a an overwhelming number of applications. Teams want to go. If your team is not in shape, maybe your kids/coach need to get after it. My kid's team is just fine. Played games, healthy. Properly trained. No need for guest players. Attendance is nearly perfect. It sounds like your team was not accepted and you are now sour grapes. Kids mental health is worth a lot to people. If Newsom let us play games in state we would not have to leave. He is pushing us to travel.

No, I just choose to teach my children that sometimes you have to make difficult decisions and not to let FOMO for them or their parents drive their decision. Surf had an overwhelming number of applicants because every other tournament in California was cancelled. Davis Legacy appears to have finally given up and decided all tournaments are cancelled until May 2021. Again, if people choose to act in their self interest and travel to AZ without respecting tomorrow's lockdown for Southern California it's their decision to make. All others ask is that they respect the guidelines and quarantine upon their return, including staying away from work, stocking up on food before they return, not attending school if their school has in person learning, and not attending training for 2 weeks. As for the tournament as a whole, sure they will still have some teams that can travel without going against their local health department guidelines, and if they do then go ahead and have a smaller tournament. Just don't be fooled into thinking they have anything other than their own financial interest in mind.
 
Nah that is not true. They only posted it on credit cards the past few weeks as they accepted teams to the January event. They never charged for the earlier event. If you were not accepted you never were charged. Let's not post untruths.
Umm. I’m the manager of my team and I can assure you they charged our team when we were accepted to the original tournament That was supposed to be held in July. Our credit card was charged in June. They kept rolling over our acceptance and then for this new tournament they just gave us a coupon code that we used when we registered and they transfer the money over. I know what I’m talking about But Obviously you don’t.
 
Sound familiar?



Oh boy, I know this announcement is really hard for you to accept because you put so much time and effort into explaining why Surf cup was canceled this year but look at the bright side ok? You are safe and sound inside your isolation bubble and you can still see a lot of the great matches with the top teams via video. They may even have live stream going. If you close your eyes and listen to the sounds of kids enjoying playing the sport they love all the hurt feelings you are experiencing now will go away.
 
Yea, not happening. RSL - AZ may be interested but many clubs will likely not lift a finger to help administrate this thing. This is a nice to have, not a must have. The collateral damage of having Surf could jeopardize AZ run tournaments in FEB. I would wager that many AZ clubs wouldn't have their feelings hurt if Surf just went away.
Every public health official in AZ is saying this is a bad idea. ICU beds today are at 92%. Cannon fodder for our media. Hospitals don't make as much money when their ICU beds are full of CV19 patients. They are screaming about this as well, but don't be mistaken, they are screaming because they don't want to draw down on elective surgeries and have to expand bed capacity. Spend money to not make money is not their thing.

The more I think about it, the more I realize that Surf is just being an a$$hole and a bully. And it goes without saying that I am a fan of playing.

Boy are you misinformed. Hospitals make way more money with covid patients with federal reimbursement. That's why everyone tests positive and dies from covid even if you get shot in a robbery. Have plenty of family in medical and they all said the China virus box gets checked yes for everyone no matter what. China virus very profitable for hospitals. I disagree with your club opinion also. My experience tells me that when it comes to clubs helping each other such as participating in each others yearly tournaments or making some venues available for a weekend, etc... soccer becomes a tight knit group and collaboration makes for great youth soccer experiences.
 
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You are out of your fucking mind.


Lavey29 said:
That's one thing cool about soccer is that different clubs in different regions and even different states typically dont hesitate to help another club if the situation calls for it.
They are working with RSL-AZ afaik, and in return RSL-AZ expects acceptance of their teams (now and in the future I'd expect).

Life is hard, it's even harder when you're stupid.
 
And for more fun.....



As promised, the update......

Despite the City Council vote to close the REACH 11 Complex, we believe we have a solution and therefore Surf Cup AZ (youngers and olders) is ON! We still have the Scottsdale Sports Complex for our event and there is no indication that the venue will close.

We have had overwhelming support from our friends in AZ in providing us options to hold the event in and around the Phoenix area (in areas NOT closed) and therefore, we are sending staff to Phoenix this weekend to check out our options so we can formulate our plan.

That plan will be communicated to all of you early next week. We have a lot to adjust in a very short amount of time but we want to do everything we can to make sure we can get your players back out on the fields playing the game they love.

We continue to be sensitive to what's going on in CA and part of the plan will be options for teams that feel it's in their best interest to not travel to AZ for the events so please wait until we communicate our plan, and your options, early next week before making a decision.

We will also work with each of the cities on their COVID protocols, which may be different by venue and, once confirmed by city/venue, that information will be communicated as well.

As the ECNL event is ongoing in SC right now and TX teams continue on with their league seasons (as do many other states) we want the same for the players coming to our events too so we are choosing to move forward and offer the events!

Look for a detailed communication early next week!

Thank you for your continued support!


Thank you for posting the current information
 
You have no clue about what I would do or not do. My daughter was born premature and had to be resuscitated at birth from a botched amnio by the doctor in addition to cutting her head open in the crash C section ( a scar she still has but fortunately hidden along her hairline). I could have easily walked away with $$$ but chose not to pursue the matter.
Wow, thanks for sharing. That is one hell of a fighter!!! My dd was all ready to go two days before her natural birth was supposed to happen. However, she kicked her legs off mommy's tummy and did a flip and we had a C section. Holy cow, that was insane and I didn't faint. All woman deserve our honor & respect. Go girls!!!!
 
Boy are you misinformed. Hospitals make way more money with covid patients with federal reimbursement. That's why everyone tests positive and dies from covid even if you get shot in a robbery. Have plenty of family in medical and they all said the China virus box gets checked yes for everyone no matter what. China virus very profitable for hospitals. I disagree with your club opinion also. My experience tells me that when it comes to clubs helping each other such as participating in each others yearly tournaments or making some venues available for a weekend, etc... soccer becomes a tight knit group and collaboration makes for great youth soccer experiences.

Then they are either lying to you or complicit in fraud.

hospitals get federal funding for treating covid patients. That’s how hospitals get paid. If i have my knee repaired my insurance pays the hospital. If my dad does, Medicare pays the bill. That’s how hospitals work. Because treating covid patients means less elective surgeries and other issues that hospitals have to delay or reroute somewhere else, the CARes act is reimbursing for covid treatment.

If the “plenty” of family you have working in hospitals knows of hospitals erroneously checking the box for covid when it’s not true, that’s massive fraud and they should turn it in themselves because if they know and don’t do it, they are complicit.

hospitals are hemorrhaging money right now because of the loss of income on standard procedures. Getting reimbursed by the CARES act isn’t highly profitable. Your family is lying. And if they are checking boxes for covid when it isn’t true that’s Medicare fraud and it’s highly illegal.

and there’s no reimbursement if someone dies from covid. Regurgitating trumps insane rally propaganda is so tired. Do better.
 
Then they are either lying to you or complicit in fraud.

hospitals get federal funding for treating covid patients. That’s how hospitals get paid. If i have my knee repaired my insurance pays the hospital. If my dad does, Medicare pays the bill. That’s how hospitals work. Because treating covid patients means less elective surgeries and other issues that hospitals have to delay or reroute somewhere else, the CARes act is reimbursing for covid treatment.

If the “plenty” of family you have working in hospitals knows of hospitals erroneously checking the box for covid when it’s not true, that’s massive fraud and they should turn it in themselves because if they know and don’t do it, they are complicit.

hospitals are hemorrhaging money right now because of the loss of income on standard procedures. Getting reimbursed by the CARES act isn’t highly profitable. Your family is lying. And if they are checking boxes for covid when it isn’t true that’s Medicare fraud and it’s highly illegal.

and there’s no reimbursement if someone dies from covid. Regurgitating trumps insane rally propaganda is so tired. Do better.

I'm going in for hip replacement surgery this Tuesday. Thought I would have difficulty getting in for elective surgery at the hospital but nope schedule was wide open for me to choose and a private recovery room too. If I were you, do some research on hospital covid reimbursement and you will find some interesting statistics. I would post links but they seem to not like non soccer related links here. You are just misinformed so try and do a little better yourself.
 
No do post the links. Or message me the links.

And one person scheduling an elective surgery and having options is one example. You understand that doesn’t make it universally true right? You know what anecdotal means?

hospitals are losing Billions (with a B) due to covid. This is really well known stuff my guy.
 
Not what I'm saying. Clubs have a responsibility to obtain liability insurance for tournaments. Parents need to take responsibility for their own choices and risks. I know its part of the entitlement culture to play the victim and look for someone to blame (with deep pockets or insurance), but I wish it would stop.

You have no clue about what I would do or not do. My daughter was born premature and had to be resuscitated at birth from a botched amnio by the doctor in addition to cutting her head open in the crash C section ( a scar she still has but fortunately hidden along her hairline). I could have easily walked away with $$$ but chose not to pursue the matter.
Omg - I'm assuming that everything ended up okay--that sounds terrifying. :(
 
Boy are you misinformed. Hospitals make way more money with covid patients with federal reimbursement. That's why everyone tests positive and dies from covid even if you get shot in a robbery. Have plenty of family in medical and they all said the China virus box gets checked yes for everyone no matter what. China virus very profitable for hospitals. I disagree with your club opinion also. My experience tells me that when it comes to clubs helping each other such as participating in each others yearly tournaments or making some venues available for a weekend, etc... soccer becomes a tight knit group and collaboration makes for great youth soccer experiences.

My kid’s been training and playing and I’m all
for having full outdoor sports and replacing Newsom ....but you come across like an uneducated loony and a full on racist on the regular.... keyboards sure do make little men brave
 
I don’t understand this obsession with Surf Cup. What do ULittles gain from this tournament. Also how many college scouts will be attending during the holiday season? I understand that it’s viewed as a prestigious tournament but is it really?
I agree with your sentiment. However, my girls just want to play, anywhere, anyhow. No prestige or college coaches required for enjoyment. Can’t play in California, so the appeal of surf cup this year for them is just hopefully some good, competitive games.
 
My kid’s been training and playing and I’m all
for having full outdoor sports and replacing Newsom ....but you come across like an uneducated loony and a full on racist on the regular.... keyboards sure do make little men brave

I apologize if you are butt hurt about something. I know snowflakes are delicate. That's terrific your kid is training and playing. All kids in youth sports should be training and playing and also in school. Really no reason for them not to be although a lot of schools are in session around the country and as we all know youth sports are happening all around the country also with the exception of certain socialist controlled states. Kids need to be active and they need to be in school.
 
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