Bad News Thread

dad4 said:
My family usually celebrates when we get out of the pen, not when we go in.

Try outlaw.
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less good than you initial quip. particularly in light of mad hatter's masterpiece in which you feature.
 
espola said:
He didn't say that he was ashamed to be a math teacher. He pointed out that you were belittling math teachers.
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I have nothing but the highest respect for math teachers. But it does explain quite a bit of his behavior including but not limited to: a. his failure to apply circumstances in the real world, b. his lack of proficiency in the verbal arts, c. the fascination with mathematical constructs, d. his ability to correctly assess my math fluency. e. his tendency to look down on others for math and f. the chip on his shoulders (as teachers tend to view their profession as being underpaid, not very respected, and to not apply the safety discount to their professions value). I'm just as critical of my profession btw and its influences on me (see my post re parade of horribles).
 
dad4 said:
Mathematics is not a Nobel profession. Fields medal. But not the Nobel. Downright discriminatory if you ask me.

But it's the ignoble prize I'd really want.
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Bertrand Russell, Max Born, John Fields, and Clive Granger were mathematicians who won Nobel Prizes in Physics and Economics.
 
Grace T. said:
I have nothing but the highest respect for math teachers. But it does explain quite a bit of his behavior including but not limited to: a. his failure to apply circumstances in the real world, b. his lack of proficiency in the verbal arts, c. the fascination with mathematical constructs, d. his ability to correctly assess my math fluency. e. his tendency to look down on others for math and f. the chip on his shoulders (as teachers tend to view their profession as being underpaid, not very respected, and to not apply the safety discount to their professions value). I'm just as critical of my profession btw and its influences on me (see my post re parade of horribles).
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Interesting spin -- "I have nothing but the highest respect" followed by disrespectful (and unfounded) comments.
 
espola said:
Interesting spin -- "I have nothing but the highest respect" followed by disrespectful (and unfounded) comments.
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Mind if I borrow this? Next time someone calls all attorneys snakes or makes an attorney joke I'll be sure to pull it out (with proper citation if you insist).

Oh it's a stereotype I admit. Not that all teachers are resentful, or no math teacher ever loved Shakespeare. But like all stereotypes, there's always a grain of truth there. Remember the famous saying?: "Those that can't do, teach."

In any case it's pretty clear he's ashamed of it or at least disappointed by it. If he weren't the normal human reaction would be to deny he's a teacher, or to say oh yeah so what?....I'm a teacher and proud of it.
 
dad4 said:
You're taking a stat that the author doesn't understand, failing to understand it yourself, and reposting it.

You're well out of your depth here.
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There's nothing to complicated to understand about the stat. It's a simple IFR calculation. Even Sheriff Joe can do it. The question is whether its true and how they derived it....don't have time right now to look at it but some friends are checking. Not rock science....not even calculus oh high and mighty math master.
 
Grace T. said:
There's nothing to complicated to understand about the stat. It's a simple IFR calculation. Even Sheriff Joe can do it. The question is whether its true and how they derived it....don't have time right now to look at it but some friends are checking. Not rock science....not even calculus oh high and mighty math master.
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I didn't say you can't compute it. I said you don't understand what it means.

And still don't. You're thinking of IFR as constant, while over at the grown ups table they try to predict how IFR changes as hospitals fill.

Out of your league.
 
dad4 said:
I didn't say you can't compute it. I said you don't understand what it means.

And still don't. You're thinking of IFR as constant, while over at the grown ups table they try to predict how IFR changes as hospitals fill.

Out of your league.
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The IFR has been consistently dropping. Whether that's because there are way more tests, or the virus is becoming less deadly or a combo of both is unknown. I'm going with a combo of both. It's certainly not 3.4% which was your initial foray into fear mongering.
 
dad4 said:
I didn't say you can't compute it. I said you don't understand what it means.

And still don't. You're thinking of IFR as constant, while over at the grown ups table they try to predict how IFR changes as hospitals fill.

Out of your league.
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You really are such a hypocrite...decrying the ad hominems while you yourself engage in them. Like I said you'll engage in any rhetorical exercise to protect your precious blue pill whether goalpost moving, strawmanning, ad hominems, putting words in peoples mouths, making assumptions or outright changing things. He so got you in that video...

What you don't realize is you are in the delusional table, fascinated by the mathematics of how the IFR changes, chatting about it with your math buddies, convinced its going to crash as the hospitals fill up. News flash: the trend has been going down. It's been going down since the beginning where it was estimated at 3% and is now down to somewhere between .1- (in even the most widely pessimistic predictions) .4%. (Note, I get the better way to understand this is a range, but the only relevant question is where it is now).

Delusional hypocrite, crying about his masks.
 
watfly said:
The IFR has been consistently dropping. Whether that's because there are way more tests, or the virus is becoming less deadly or a combo of both is unknown. I'm going with a combo of both. It's certainly not 3.4% which was your initial foray into fear mongering.
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I should clarify, I'm not sure the virus itself is becoming less deadly, but I think we are way better at treating it.
 
watfly said:
I should clarify, I'm not sure the virus itself is becoming less deadly, but I think we are way better at treating it.
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This is a major part of it. There's a theory going around the virus has weakened as it became more virulent but that's never been proven and the evidence is scant. The other component is the brush theory (people who are genetically or because of age or age related health conditions who would otherwise be vulnerable to respiratory illnesses caught it and died early on leaving the people more resilent around).
 
More evidence that masks can't stop outbreaks. In Golden Gate Fields (isn't dad around there?), 200 racetrack workers fell ill (most asymptomatic) despite rigorous sanitation, mask, temp checks and testing. Yes, there were some residents there, but the protocols didn't protect the non-residents either. It's of course possible the masks reduced viral loads or stopped another portion of the workers from getting ill. But either the horses are transmitting it, or the masks didn't help stop it in this circumstance.

www.berkeleyside.com

How did 200 racetrack workers at Golden Gate Fields get COVID-19?

One week after a COVID-19 outbreak involving hundreds of Golden Gate Fields workers became public, many who tested positive are back to work.
www.berkeleyside.com www.berkeleyside.com
 
Grace T. said:
Mind if I borrow this? Next time someone calls all attorneys snakes or makes an attorney joke I'll be sure to pull it out (with proper citation if you insist).

Oh it's a stereotype I admit. Not that all teachers are resentful, or no math teacher ever loved Shakespeare. But like all stereotypes, there's always a grain of truth there. Remember the famous saying?: "Those that can't do, teach."

In any case it's pretty clear he's ashamed of it or at least disappointed by it. If he weren't the normal human reaction would be to deny he's a teacher, or to say oh yeah so what?....I'm a teacher and proud of it.
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It appears that you can't help yourself.

BTW, in the future, all lawyer jokes will be illustrated with the picture of Rudy with his hair dye running down his face.
 
Grace T. said:
This is a major part of it. There's a theory going around the virus has weakened as it became more virulent but that's never been proven and the evidence is scant. The other component is the brush theory (people who are genetically or because of age or age related health conditions who would otherwise be vulnerable to respiratory illnesses caught it and died early on leaving the people more resilent around).
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The virus is not a single organism. There is no biological mechanism by which billions of independent virus particles will spontaneously "weaken".
 
Grace T. said:
You really are such a hypocrite...decrying the ad hominems while you yourself engage in them. Like I said you'll engage in any rhetorical exercise to protect your precious blue pill whether goalpost moving, strawmanning, ad hominems, putting words in peoples mouths, making assumptions or outright changing things. He so got you in that video...

What you don't realize is you are in the delusional table, fascinated by the mathematics of how the IFR changes, chatting about it with your math buddies, convinced its going to crash as the hospitals fill up. News flash: the trend has been going down. It's been going down since the beginning where it was estimated at 3% and is now down to somewhere between .1- (in even the most widely pessimistic predictions) .4%. (Note, I get the better way to understand this is a range, but the only relevant question is where it is now).

Delusional hypocrite, crying about his masks.
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If you don't like being out of your league, stop reposting twitter garbage and go back to posting articles.
 
dad4 said:
If you don't like being out of your league, stop reposting twitter garbage and go back to posting articles.
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I did pass it on saying I hadn't had time to check out veracity. Unlike you, I'm careful not to mislead. Why is it the antilockdowners are the only ones crying about don't post the information??? Oh yeah....your precious....you don't want that threatened.
 
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