Return to Play & Practice

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  • SD under day camp guidance

    Votes: 10 18.9%

  • SD without day camp guidance

    Votes: 3 5.7%

  • OC under day camp guidance

    Votes: 7 13.2%

  • OC without day camp guidance

    Votes: 3 5.7%

  • LA under day camp guidance

    Votes: 7 13.2%

  • LA without day camp guidance

    Votes: 1 1.9%

  • OTH under day camp guidance

    Votes: 7 13.2%

  • OTH without day camp guidance

    Votes: 2 3.8%

  • ALL No dates have be given

    Votes: 11 20.8%

  • Tournament or full game play in July or August.

    Votes: 9 17.0%
  • Total voters
    53
  • Poll closed .
Soccer isn't the only biz in limbo.

Knock Knock, anyone home? My question is who is asking on kids soccer behalf? Disney and Berry have folks at least asking the State, "Were ready to open for business." I think the kids are ready to play soccer, For Pete Sakes.........

Disneyland stuck ‘in limbo’ waiting for California theme park reopening plan from state

'We are ready to open responsibly, it is the time to open responsibly and it's important to open responsibly,' says Disneyland resort president Ken Potrock.

Knott’s Berry Farm frustrated with lack of California theme park reopening plans: ‘We’re ready to open’

'Every time we ask them, "Can you help us understand what's going on here and why we can't open?" They just keep saying to us, "Well, you're different,"' says Cedar Fair regional vice president Raffi Kaprelyan.
 
crush said:
Soccer isn't the only biz in limbo.

Knock Knock, anyone home? My question is who is asking on kids soccer behalf? Disney and Berry have folks at least asking the State, "Were ready to open for business." I think the kids are ready to play soccer, For Pete Sakes.........

Disneyland stuck ‘in limbo’ waiting for California theme park reopening plan from state

'We are ready to open responsibly, it is the time to open responsibly and it's important to open responsibly,' says Disneyland resort president Ken Potrock.

Knott’s Berry Farm frustrated with lack of California theme park reopening plans: ‘We’re ready to open’

'Every time we ask them, "Can you help us understand what's going on here and why we can't open?" They just keep saying to us, "Well, you're different,"' says Cedar Fair regional vice president Raffi Kaprelyan.
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never seen a more incompetent governor; Disney was working closely for months with Gavin and now is throwing Gavin under the bus. Can’t get worse.
This is why we shut down everything?62269371901__CF5C3C78-C8FE-4B90-8BB0-01AC271DB55F.HEIC
 

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chiefs said:
never seen a more incompetent governor; Disney was working closely for months with Gavin and now is throwing Gavin under the bus. Can’t get worse.
This is why we shut down everything?62269371901__CF5C3C78-C8FE-4B90-8BB0-01AC271DB55F.HEIC
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You really think opening Disneyland is a good idea right now, ahead of other things?

How about we put the basketball hoops back up, sweep the sand from the skate parks, and allow outdoor sports teams to play a game or two? You know, open up the cheap and low risk things before the expensive and high risk things.
 
dad4 said:
You really think opening Disneyland is a good idea right now, ahead of other things?

How about we put the basketball hoops back up, sweep the sand from the skate parks, and allow outdoor sports teams to play a game or two? You know, open up the cheap and low risk things before the expensive and high risk things.
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I can't wait to see what profile responds back to you.
 
The Outlaw said:
I haven't seen that before... all of California?
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You see how politicians can’t hide anymore with their
dad4 said:
You really think opening Disneyland is a good idea right now, ahead of other things?

How about we put the basketball hoops back up, sweep the sand from the skate parks, and allow outdoor sports teams to play a game or two? You know, open up the cheap and low risk things before the expensive and high risk things.
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dude read the stats. It’s simple. Stop destroying the state.
 
chiefs said:
You see how politicians can’t hide anymore with their


dude read the stats. It’s simple. Stop destroying the state.
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Read the stats? I’m not convinced you understand the stats you post.

People who are good at math don’t post a 94.7% survival rate like it’s a good thing. It means “one out of 19 dies”.
 
dad4 said:
You really think opening Disneyland is a good idea right now, ahead of other things?

How about we put the basketball hoops back up, sweep the sand from the skate parks, and allow outdoor sports teams to play a game or two? You know, open up the cheap and low risk things before the expensive and high risk things.
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florida and disneyworld seem to be doing okay.
 
dad4 said:
Read the stats? I’m not convinced you understand the stats you post.

People who are good at math don’t post a 94.7% survival rate like it’s a good thing. It means “one out of 19 dies”.
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Not arguing with you at all, but is that 1/19 a general number? Or specific to high risk? Not that either one is ok.. I'm just trying to understand.
 
SoccerFan4Life said:
We are now just 20 days from CSL starting (unless they changed the date again) and 30 days for SCDSL to begin. We need CalSouth to wake up and say something. Nobody is allowed to do scrimmages at this time. How are these soccer organizations expecting club teams to prepare for the fall season.
The PAC 12 just announced college football to begin in November. College Basketball is also coming back Mid November.

Can someone who knows people at calsouth knock on their door to get them to take action?
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CSL will not be starting in 20 days. The math is fairly easy. Pick a county, see what tier they are in and then count out the soonest available date that they can have full contact scrimmages. Add in the days needed to get to the level that allows for games and then add at least 2, and up to 4, weeks for organizations to get fields permits, goals, lining and everything else that goes into preparing for opening day. Don't forget to have back up fields for clubs in areas with city or school hold outs unwilling to rent their fields. You can do this for each county and understand that all counties need to be open for there to be enough fields. Not enough field space for most clubs to have only home games..
 
Read the stats? I’m not convinced you understand the stats you post.

People who are good at math don’t post a 94.7% survival rate like it’s a good thing. It means “one out of 19 dies”.
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I saw that it was less than 1% or 0.006% Once you factor in younger and under 70 you get much lower than 0.006

www.washingtontimes.com

Chances of getting COVID-19 are slim, dying from it even slimmer

It is very unlikely that you will die from the coronavirus.
www.washingtontimes.com www.washingtontimes.com
 
El Clasico said:
CSL will not be starting in 20 days. The math is fairly easy. Pick a county, see what tier they are in and then count out the soonest available date that they can have full contact scrimmages. Add in the days needed to get to the level that allows for games and then add at least 2, and up to 4, weeks for organizations to get fields permits, goals, lining and everything else that goes into preparing for opening day. Don't forget to have back up fields for clubs in areas with city or school hold outs unwilling to rent their fields. You can do this for each county and understand that all counties need to be open for there to be enough fields. Not enough field space for most clubs to have only home games..
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Unless something has changed the specific guidelines for youth soccer relating to tiers does not exist .
 
El Clasico said:
CSL will not be starting in 20 days. The math is fairly easy. Pick a county, see what tier they are in and then count out the soonest available date that they can have full contact scrimmages. Add in the days needed to get to the level that allows for games and then add at least 2, and up to 4, weeks for organizations to get fields permits, goals, lining and everything else that goes into preparing for opening day. Don't forget to have back up fields for clubs in areas with city or school hold outs unwilling to rent their fields. You can do this for each county and understand that all counties need to be open for there to be enough fields. Not enough field space for most clubs to have only home games..
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Get what your saying but doesn't matter what tier a county is in. The youth sports guidance August from the state does'nt currently allow scrimmages or games. That needs to change before things can move forward. Some counties like LA have added other conditions on top of the state guidance.

USYS has now decided to do something, better late vs never but Cal South and other organizations should have done this before August and worked with the state closer like CIF. Instead what they put out where inadequate returns to play: do some camps for a couple weeks and then you can scrimmage two weeks later. Instead of this bogus return should have been a little bit more thoughtfull.

The state yes they have classified youth sports in a higher risk categories than what's reasonable but these youth sports organizations haven't done us any favors or helped much in correctly the oversite so they need to do a better job and take some of the responsibilities and actually get returns to play that don't look like a half backed effort to keep the $ following but don't do much else.

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dad4 said:
You really think opening Disneyland is a good idea right now, ahead of other things?

How about we put the basketball hoops back up, sweep the sand from the skate parks, and allow outdoor sports teams to play a game or two? You know, open up the cheap and low risk things before the expensive and high risk things.
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Why not do both.

Disneyworld in Florida reopened in July, at which time cases were 10,000 per day. Two months later cases are at 2750 per day. Disneyworld hasn't been an issue. Let them open. Jobs, revenue, entertainment, normalcy, safety. Safer than any of the stores I've been into where some people still don't wear masks.

FYI every park I've been to has basketball playing non-stop in the evenings. All the fields have soccer players. Games won't make any difference in the safety of kids.
 
lafalafa said:
Get what your saying but doesn't matter what tier a county is in. The youth sports guidance August from the state does'nt currently allow scrimmages or games. That needs to change before things can move forward. Some counties like LA have added other conditions on top of the state guidance.

USYS has now decided to do something, better late vs never but Cal South and other organizations should have done this before August and worked with the state closer like CIF. Instead what they put out where inadequate returns to play: do some camps for a couple weeks and then you can scrimmage two weeks later. Instead of this bogus return should have been a little bit more thoughtfull.

The state yes they have classified youth sports in a higher risk categories than what's reasonable but these youth sports organizations haven't done us any favors or helped much in correctly the oversite so they need to do a better job and take some of the responsibilities and actually get returns to play that don't look like a half backed effort to keep the $ following but don't do much else.

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I know you don't have the answer, nobody does. But you seem to be one of the more informed and realistic posters on here, so my question is what do you think the chances are that US Club sanctioned leagues will be playing around Thanksgiving? Here in SoCal (ECNL and ECRL specifically) just your best educated guess. Thanks @lafalafa
 
Hate to say it but the litigious society we created helped make this mess. Everyone is afraid to expose themselves to blame, ridicule and lawsuits. When all of US were kids, you were liable for your own stupidity... not anyone else's.
 
dawson said:
Unless something has changed the specific guidelines for youth soccer relating to tiers does not exist .
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That is correct and the core of the problem. CDPH's August document was last updated on Sep 18 and scrimmages/games are still banned. I don't have the previous version so I don't know what the updates are. But in the last paragraph you can see this document doesn't apply to college sports. Sep 18 was two days after Big10 decided to play fall football, so you can draw your own conclusion on whether the policy is based on $ or public health.

Youth Sports Q&A

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