And, like a new Ferrari, it is relatively common for ECNL to total the vehicle.
Say, how many Blues players were in the shop with ACL tears the last 2 years?
ECNL Broken?
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Say, how many Blues players were in the shop with ACL tears the last 2 years?
The last GDA mafioso. If a club abuses your child, that is on you and, to a lesser extent, the club. It has nothing to do with the ECNL platform. And, of course, Blues also participated in GDA.
You, as the parent, are responsible for your child. Put her on the pill. Speak with your club DOC and coach about safety and expectations to make sure she doesn’t play full 90 minutes. In ECNL, no one is required to play an entire game with no breaks, so you should be good unless you’re one of those whiny p**sies who is too chicken to talk with a coach about your kid’s safety.
AKA: you get what you pay for.
So how many surgeries per year at your club? How many repeat concussions?
Or are you one of those whiny little p**sies who is too chicken to answer a direct question about kids' safety?
GDA lost. It’s over. It should not be a surprise. Can’t say I didn’t warn you.
Ha - or what you are sold. But this argument can become tedious and circular in nature. ECNL does what it claims well enough that it's highly sought after and coveted. Nothing wrong with that. But to be fair, it's pay to play for those that can. And if you refute that, then self awareness is not a trait that you possess (and I don't mean you specifically). All on this forum wear the badge, whether it's ECNL, GDA/GA or (insert your elite league here).
I feel like that is a Blues problem and not an ECNL as a whole problem.
Pay to play. Pay to get piano lessons. Pay to eat. Pay to live under a roof. Pay to own a car. Pay, pay, pay. It’s almost like that is how things work.
Yes, but Blues players aren’t the only ones they injure.
ECNL could put a stop to it by rewriting the ECNL referee guidance. The wrecking ball at CM strategy doesn’t work if your wrecking ball gets a red card.
Highlander
SILVER ELITE
No doubt on the womens side we are ahead...but it isn't because of ECNL. On the mens side France crushes everyone - just go look at the numbers of French players playing in high level pro leagues...its not even a question that their methods are the best. And guess what they do...regional "all-star" teams. Mbappe played on his local club to the end of his amateur career. The rest of the world is and will catch up and pass the USWNT if we keep down this path.
Here are the 2019 ECNL #'s:
- Girls ECNL Class of 2019: 1,633
- Total Players Playing Collegiate Soccer: 1,156
End of the day, I think it's a crappy system that is based off of what the parents are willing to spend as much if not more than the kids actual ability. IMO we need to do better.
It's all pay to play! Yes ECNL is more and so was the DA, but this is our system. Whether you play for a big club that supports the elite league or a smaller local club that plays only NPL/CRL.
Highlander
SILVER ELITE
Since I'm here...I'm curious what you guys have seen in team turn over year to year on your DD's ECNL teams? 3-4 players? More? Less?
futboldad1
PREMIER
You sure have an axe to grind with ECNL and ECNL clubs located in SoCal..... especially for someone who says they're "from NorCal" and only "has a u-little"......
Desert Hound
DA
I think generally you get more turnover in the first couple of years. Those are the years when teams are formed. And then the following year, the teams may find some kids didnt work out, have others of interest come in, etc.
At the older years you will get less turnover as the teams are more set.
That said...when you have new leagues start (DA) and then a league collapses (DA) you will get more movement vs normal.
I’m kind of pissed at the safety record of youth sports in general. Too many people willing to watch kids get hurt, then call people “pussy” when they point out the injuries. ECNL are injury central for girls soccer, so they get the attention. GDA was just as bad.
Why pick on Blues?
1- They have a reputation for the style of play that creates injuries.
2- They have the power within ECNL that they could help fix the problem, if they cared.
3- If Blues continue to win by creating injuries, other clubs will try to copy what they do and more girls will get hurt.
I don’t only have a ulittle. I also have an older kid who had to quit all sports after an injury.
So none of your kids play soccer?
Desert Hound
DA
I am curious as to what you think should be changed? My DD has played both DA and ECNL so I have seen a lot of games.
Why not focus on Nocal dad? Your starting to get on my nerves......lol. Let's talk soccer in socal soccer forum. You worry about the virus in your neighborhood or town and we will kick it's ass down here. OC is kicking ass and were all red today
Blues has a style of play that is not for all. Look at NC and you get an idea. My dd chose possession over that style. Direct, in your face and I wont stop until I win, works in socal and it's a choice for each coach. Blues envy is the cause I think for all the jealousy in soccer. Cut throat soccer with cut throat cuts and no parent likes it when their goat is cut or worse, a goat is stolen from one club to Blues Goathood. Goat stealing rubs so many the wrong way all because clubs think they own da player or at least they make you feel guilty as heck for even thinking of a different environment or coach for next season.I’m not trying to get on your nerves. Sorry about that. I meant to annoy EOTL.Why not focus on Nocal dad? Your starting to get on my nerves......lol. Let's talk soccer in socal soccer forum. You worry about the virus in your neighborhood or town and we will kick it's ass down here. OC is kicking ass and were all red today
NC? NC has a truly awful record on injuries, too. same style, same results.
The goat stealing is going to happen as long as second tier clubs fail to promote.
Second tier clubs focus on taking rec kids and bringing them up to mid level competitive. They don’t have patches, but if you have an upper level rec kid, that‘s where you should look, because that’s who knows how to help your child.
The problem comes when a rec-silver club stumbles on a goat and doesn’t want to let go. The club should call up the letter league coach and send them over for tryouts. But that isn’t what happens. So the letter league clubs do their best to poach/advertise/recruit.
Yep, it's all play to play. Comes down to how much you are going to pay to play. Other countries do pay to play but not as over the top as here in the US. Makes us unique when it comes to youth sports. Nothing wrong with that, our system, for them most part, works across all sports. When it comes to soccer in the US, it's ironically a game for the more well to do families. ECNL, DA/GA, abc, def, ghi, etc... are a perfect example of it. I am a user of the letter leagues, so I'm being critical of my role in perpetuating them. It's the system we have and I'm thankful I can participate.
Here are some interesting articles to give you perspective:
Youth Soccer in America: How Prohibitive Costs are Hurting the Game - Econsult Solutions, Inc.
American soccer means that wealthy parents spend money to propel their kids while the country’s greatest talents are left behind through economic inequity.
econsultsolutions.com