Why keep arguing, NO FALL SOCCER!

EOTL said:
So weird that they’re all doing much worse than CA. It’s almost like not socially distancing is killing people. I’m sure it’s all the social interactions besides the things I want to do.
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Don't comment on what you don't know. What facts do you have on what's going on in Texas, none.
 
EOTL said:
Yes, he is a murderer. The people he murdered had a right to due process, rather than to be murdered by an armed vigilante. Due process does not include the President of the United States telling armed vigilantes to take matters into their own hands. In fact, that is the opposite of due process. Nothing I said was ironic, but what you said definitely was. And was also really, really stupid.
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they don't get due process if attacking someone. The kid has a right to defend himself. They were so scared of the guy with a gun they were chasing him down the street. One guy tried to cave his head in with a skate board and the other has a pistol. No soup for any of them
 
Grace T. said:
Here's another sciency thing. One little noticed provision that might stop things from opening up is "equity" because science! Those goalposts have come a long way from keeping the hospitals from being flooded.


deadline.com

California Coronavirus Update: Governor Gavin Newsom’s Little-Noticed Reopening Requirement Could Trip L.A. Up

In his presentation on Friday, Gavin Newsom mentioned that the state is considering “equity” as a factor in allowing counties to reopen.
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When I think of goal post i automatically think of football goalpost but those are fixed objects. The goals that keep getting shifted are more of a soccer goal with sandbags on them. dude is crazy
 
MSK357 said:
No one is saying COVID isnt real. But only 6% had no comorbidities. Thats important. The average i believe was over 2 comorbidities. Thats important. Whats the age of the deaths? Thats important. Why is that important? Because not everyone has comorbidities, expecially many people that need to work to live, as well as kids that need to learn in schools. These stats have meaning. Just because you dont see it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
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All stats have meaning but it doesn't mean they have significance. This meme about the 6% statistic was put out there to make people believe covid hasn't really been the cause of death in many of the 180 K + covid deaths and that narrative has been debunked by numerous sources. Anyone who has a BMI of greater than 30 has a comorbidity. That's over a third of the country. When you add the endless things people likely have as adults such as high cholesterol, high blood pressure, etc, most people have co-morbid conditions. So I have to ask you, what is so important about it? Do you dispute that there have been approximately 180 K deaths in the U.S. where the primary cause of death was covid? I'm guessing you don't have a medical, research, or public health background so I pose this other question to you: If a 90 year old lady with diabetes, hypertension, and CHF walks across the road and gets struck by a car, what is the cause of death?
 
thedudeabides said:
If a 90 year old lady with diabetes, hypertension, and CHF walks across the road and gets struck by a car, what is the cause of death?
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That's got to be one of the worst analogies ever and totally mischaracterizes what most of us are saying. Using your analogy say a 90 year old lady with Covid crosses the road and gets struck by a car and kills her, what is her cause of death? Anyone with any shred of intellectual honesty will say that the number of deaths is likely somewhere between 10,000 and 184,000.
 
MSK357 said:
you must have missed there part where kids cant go into classrooms. Kids whos school districts dont have enough chromebooks. Kids who dont have internet connection so they have been going to the nearest free wifi store thats still open to do get their lessons during these times. its not just about soccer. You are speaking from a place of priviledge. what happened to equal opportunity? I guess you forgot that once you caught up? Or is being held back due to color and class myth?
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Like you really give a shit about poor inner city school kids. Go ahead and use them as pawns because they help your argument.
 
Grace T. said:
Here's another sciency thing. One little noticed provision that might stop things from opening up is "equity" because science! Those goalposts have come a long way from keeping the hospitals from being flooded.


deadline.com

California Coronavirus Update: Governor Gavin Newsom’s Little-Noticed Reopening Requirement Could Trip L.A. Up

In his presentation on Friday, Gavin Newsom mentioned that the state is considering “equity” as a factor in allowing counties to reopen.
deadline.com deadline.com
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One thin that would help all of you guys's credibility is if you gave the official reason given by California for moving the "goal posts" and then rebutted those reasons.

For example, the official reason for slowing down the reopening and issuing these new guidelines was because the last time we "reopened" in California we did so too quickly and the numbers shot back up. I'm not arguing one way or another, but everybody on here is just assuming California is making this shit up. I don't listen to the daily updates so I don't know the official reasons for everything, but I did happen to catch the one I stated.

And in a nail salon, isn't the person doing the nails right in front of you in close proximity for a decent amount of time v. a hair dresser who is usually behind you?
 
Jose has returned said:
they don't get due process if attacking someone. The kid has a right to defend himself. They were so scared of the guy with a gun they were chasing him down the street. One guy tried to cave his head in with a skate board and the other has a pistol. No soup for any of them
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Jose has returned said:
He will walk away with a gun charge no jail time
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Hey dubmass, do you know why they were running after him? Because he already had killed someone at the gas station. The other guy had a pistol, where did you read that fake news? And guess what, with self defense you can only use comparable force. Carrying an assault rifle to a fist fight defeats that defense. The prosecutors will use the footage of a "smart" vigilante who was using his hands to push people away from a confrontation while his assault rifle was swinging on his side. He and other vigilante's around him knew they couldn't grab and aim their assault rifle's at protesters who were not armed.
 
Went to the park yesterday and today, I saw flag football practice, adults playing soccer, softball practice, regular football practice, basketball practice everywhere, and youth cross-country practice. Nobody was following covid related sports safe protocol.

Then I drove to another park and I see a u-little team 6 feet apart doing soccer drills in each individual square.

I am burned out on all this waiting and going from the camp of "open up now" to...." it's over" LOL. I actually now have time to learn how to play golf and have a few beers on a weeknight.
 
Justafan said:
Hey dubmass, do you know why they were running after him? Because he already had killed someone at the gas station. The other guy had a pistol, where did you read that fake news? And guess what, with self defense you can only use comparable force. Carrying an assault rifle to a fist fight defeats that defense. The prosecutors will use the footage of a "smart" vigilante who was using his hands to push people away from a confrontation while his assault rifle was swinging on his side. He and other vigilante's around him knew they couldn't grab and aim their assault rifle's at protesters who were not armed.
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Keepermom2 said:
You are looking at segments and not the whole economy. Take a look at the following link that is prepared by the Chief Economist department of a Big 4 Accounting firm and stop your criticism of me.
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Lol you seem to be impressed by your own google skills and people’s titles. We talk to big ball swanging “top” “chief” number dudes at least 3x a week. They even are on tv on cable networks. Guess what? No one cares. No one is impressed with how how many charts or colors you have in the charts - because no one is copying stuff to forums in attempt to prove a point. At this point, people are looking for solutions and ways to implement solutions. Leadership is trying to maintain their employees ability to pay rent and fees their families - and not become American Airlines or like other businesses. So people can see the trend amongst something we might use frequently: in a one month period from June-July, over 15,000 businesses permanently closed on Yelp. Of the businesses that have closed since March 55% will NEVER reopen over 70,000. I’m pretty sure that will negate the 120 people your friend just hired. I’ll await the next chart or link showing it’s allll good
 
thedudeabides said:
All stats have meaning but it doesn't mean they have significance. This meme about the 6% statistic was put out there to make people believe covid hasn't really been the cause of death in many of the 180 K + covid deaths and that narrative has been debunked by numerous sources. Anyone who has a BMI of greater than 30 has a comorbidity. That's over a third of the country. When you add the endless things people likely have as adults such as high cholesterol, high blood pressure, etc, most people have co-morbid conditions. So I have to ask you, what is so important about it? Do you dispute that there have been approximately 180 K deaths in the U.S. where the primary cause of death was covid? I'm guessing you don't have a medical, research, or public health background so I pose this other question to you: If a 90 year old lady with diabetes, hypertension, and CHF walks across the road and gets struck by a car, what is the cause of death?
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Do you dispute that health officials have said covid deaths dont necessarily mean covid was the cause of death? Do you dispute that positive covid deaths are not required to classify a covid death? Assumptions are good enough to label someone as a covid death. I've posted my references many times. Would you like them? So you've seen these facts, why would you assume all 180k deaths were strictly caused by covid? We've seen multiple cases where gunshots , drug overdoses, cancer was the cause of death by they were listed as a covid death because they happened to test positive. They could be asymptomatic but it doesnt matter, the guidance is to label their death as a covid death. Can you honestly say 180k deaths were all caused by covid? If not how many? The fact you can't answer that is a problem. Its a problem because we won't know the truth. We just get snippets when the number and cases get called out and eventually corrected. How many times have these numbers been corrected? But go ahead. Go ahead and believe that someone that died by murder was really just a covid death . Lol.
 
Justafan said:
Like you really give a shit about poor inner city school kids. Go ahead and use them as pawns because they help your argument.
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The fact that the current situation for inner city kids helps my argument should make you stop and think. That fact that you are not moved shows how little you care.
 
MSK357 said:
The fact that the current situation for inner city kids helps my argument should make you stop and think. That fact that you are not moved shows how little you care.
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Whether I care or not is irrelevant. YOU, yes YOU are a phony hypocrite for PRETENDING to care for the sole purpose to advance an argument.
 
Justafan said:
Hey dubmass, do you know why they were running after him? Because he already had killed someone at the gas station. The other guy had a pistol, where did you read that fake news? And guess what, with self defense you can only use comparable force. Carrying an assault rifle to a fist fight defeats that defense. The prosecutors will use the footage of a "smart" vigilante who was using his hands to push people away from a confrontation while his assault rifle was swinging on his side. He and other vigilante's around him knew they couldn't grab and aim their assault rifle's at protesters who were not armed.
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Wow are you saying one of the guys he shot didn't have a handgun? Youre the dumbass lolNINTCHDBPICT000604713074.jpg
 
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