Why keep arguing, NO FALL SOCCER!

Only when the accuser has no real argument....in Poker, if you feel someone is lying, you call and must show your cards when you call in order to win the pot. Same in lie, if you accuse someone of lying, you assume the responsibility of proving they are lying.

Otherwise you resort to low level name calling and “you google it”....lol....have a nice day in your ivory tower.

Has anyone wondered why @Kicker4Life quoted one sentence out of a larger article, omitted the surrounding sentences, and is now demanding that I prove what they say? I know what they say. They say exactly the opposite of your assertion that people who test positive in multiple cases count as a new case. All you need to do is google your quote.

Link us the whole article liar.
 
And everything is less crowded on Sunday. Snow is also way better than Colorado. Actually, only a small percentage carry...I lived there for 14 years.

Where were you when I was trying to warn the GDA Mafia about the CO snow?
 
Has anyone wondered why @Kicker4Life quoted one sentence out of a larger article, omitted the surrounding sentences, and is now demanding that I prove what they say? I know what they say. They say exactly the opposite of your assertion that people who test positive in multiple cases count as a new case. All you need to do is google your quote.

Link us the whole article liar.
Happy to hear I’m living rent free......

PS I wasn’t quoting any article, just my neighbor who is a Hospital Admin.
 
This is all the fault of old and sick people. They really need to get their s**t together so I can get a beer.
"Life is not fair, deal with eotl." Eat healthy, be righteous ((if you havent been and now would be good time to start. This is all about second chances for all btw)) and reap big reward. It's all coming together nicely. Tough times ahead so I would not drink alcohol or eat bad food made from chemicals that cause heart disease. Process is bad and cause so much cancer, heart attacks, cholesterol, more cancer, alcohol, vaping, cheese hot dogs from am/pm, Vicodin and more pills and more pills!!! Forget that past and never worry about da future coming soon to a life near you, if you want freedom of choice. The choice is clear and the choice is all yours.
 
Does anyone believe the governor will snap out of it one day soon and really look at the data and science? Until then not just soccer but the future of this state are in jeopardy for years to come.
 

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OMG. You just compared your “struggle” to get your 13 year old daughter back to soccer practice with those who risked their lived fighting racism.

Thank you for conceding that I have won. It’s a real burden being right so much in the face of such vile hatred and persecution. It’s just like what MLK Jr. faced.
Racism is all in your head.
Simpleton
 
This is all the fault of old and sick people. They really need to get their s**t together so I can get a beer.

ETOL, you’ve had a lot of well thought out posts, but this one makes no sense to me. You’re saying everyone needs to share in the suffering because a few are vulnerable. So, no one should go to the beach because some people may have skin cancer?

My parents and their older friends are extremely concerned about this. They are taking necessary precautions and are encouraging their young/healthy family and friends to live their lives. It would be selfish of them to do anything else
 
This has been the issue since early on.

We are killing biz and livelihoods.

At some point we deal with the hand dealt. About 43% of deaths are people 80+ who make up 0.6% of the population.

To blanket shut things down vs targeting the actual people at risk is madness.

The overwhelming majority of people have virtually no risk. And yet our politicians create policies that treat everyone as the same risk.
You AZ guys know everything. 480 cases of the virus at ASU, 20+ are faculty members. Arizona does not believe the virus is real, just waiting for the next super spreader event to happen. Why not just wait until a vaccine or better therapy comes online, one that works globally not one pushed by quacks, and then send the kids back. Why push it so hard and put others in jeopardy?
 
to be fair, to get both numbers to go down, covid needs to be actually under control, which seems to be the point.

Hospitalizations are dropping like a stone in California. The decrease yesterday was -204. Remember when we started this they told us it was about not overwhelming hospitals. But now it's about keeping everyone safe and mathematically some counties will be in elevated zones if they even have a couple of cases due to their low population count. The math makes no sense. If it's really about severity fo disease, hospitalizations (and maybe deaths) are the metrics we should be looking at. Otherwise this thing could become as ordinary as a cold as it mutates but we'd still be lockdown because it's widespread.
 
Bingo nothing from them and they where not even responsible enough to tell or explain to memembers that the new youth 14 person cohort restrictions that came out yesterday are in addition to the youth guidance rules. Can't even practice with more than 14 but they failed to mention that but talked about scrimmages instead that don't fall under any guidance so far

Scroll to the bottom for youth sports

Zero leadership or help getting youth soccer beyond the dead in the water phase were in now

I've commented on this before, but, at least the way this is written, it defines the cohort guidance as applying, in addition to the youth sports guidance, for activities in "indoor environments." See the language below that you get when you click on the youth sports industry link under industry guidance. First they mention and provide links for the youth sports guidance previously issues and then they include this -

"Cohorts of kids and adults in controlled, supervised settings

A cohort is a stable group of no more than 14 children or youth and no more than two supervising adults in a supervised environment. The group stays together for all activities, including meals and recreation. And this group avoids contact with anyone not in their group.

Follow the guidance for cohorts of children and youth in controlled, supervised and indoor environments. These environments include, but are not limited to, the following:

  • public and private schools
  • licensed and license-exempt child care settings
  • organized and supervised care environments, like “distance learning hubs”
  • recreation programs
  • before and after school programs
  • youth groups
  • day camps
See the answers to frequently asked questions about cohort guidance."

I think that suggests the cohort guidance applies for "indoor" youth sports, rather than outdoor ones like soccer.

It's possible that the cohort numerical definition could apply to outdoor sports, because the word "cohort" is used at least once in the formerly issued youth sports guidance, but if so it would be odd that the "guidance for cohorts of children" would specifically apply only to "indoor environments."
 
I think, but am not sure, the focus initially was 1) on making sure the hospitals did not get overwhelmed (so that mortalities did not hockey stick) and 2) provide time to build care capacity. So fair enough, in theory, they've done both by now.

On the low pop counties, yeah, the rules are a challenge, but that's not so relevant in SoCal.
 
Hospitalizations are dropping like a stone in California. The decrease yesterday was -204. Remember when we started this they told us it was about not overwhelming hospitals. But now it's about keeping everyone safe and mathematically some counties will be in elevated zones if they even have a couple of cases due to their low population count. The math makes no sense. If it's really about severity fo disease, hospitalizations (and maybe deaths) are the metrics we should be looking at. Otherwise this thing could become as ordinary as a cold as it mutates but we'd still be lockdown because it's widespread.

Gosh, cases are dropping like a rock? The social distancing restrictions worked! We won! Back to normal everyone!
 
ETOL, you’ve had a lot of well thought out posts, but this one makes no sense to me. You’re saying everyone needs to share in the suffering because a few are vulnerable. So, no one should go to the beach because some people may have skin cancer?

My parents and their older friends are extremely concerned about this. They are taking necessary precautions and are encouraging their young/healthy family and friends to live their lives. It would be selfish of them to do anything else

Your parents are fortunate they have the family and financial resources necessary to take those precautions. Let’s kill those who don’t, and those who learned from our people they trust that it’s a hoax. And those who didn’t know they had a condition that made them susceptible.
 
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